David Wood (Acts 17 Apologetics) and Sam Shamoun (AnsweringIslam) are colleagues in internet Christian apologetics, they have indeed been rumbled presenting the SAME LIE at different times – two years apart – I guess they thought the audience were amnesia sufferers!
David Wood and Sam Shamoun are quacks peddling the SAME forgeries!
Sam Shamoun refused to come clean
In November, I showcased David Wood’s espousing of the said hoax. In early December I emailed Mr Shamoun informing him I had audio of him advancing the same lies, hence I asked him to come clean. He remained silent and left his colleague to face the music all alone. Now the pair of charlatans are united once again under the umbrella of shame.
Is an apology so difficult? Chaps, come clean.
Holy Spirit and Extremist Christians…
Could one of you folk answer why Christian missionaries such as yourselves have regular disconnections from honesty whilst in “ministry” despite claiming to have the Holy Spirit dwelling within? Please can you answer?
A word on Sam Shamoun
Recently I saw him described as “warrior” by one of his pals. Shamoun styles himself as a terminator of debaters – he is neither a “warrior” nor a “terminator”, he is nothing to fear, his arguments are clumsy and his temperament is decidedly shaky. I wish folk would see him as everybody else sees him – dishonest and disrespectful
If you are a Christian please have some self respect and stop giving these chaps donations.
The thighing hoax:
http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.com/search/label/Thighing%3F
Invitation to the Truth
Are you sick of the spin in your church? Are you disenchanted with your co-religionists? Would you like a relationship with God? If yes:
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Recently I saw him described as “warrior” by one of his pals. Shamoun styles himself as a terminator of debaters – he is neither a “warrior” nor a “terminator”, he is nothing to fear
says the coward
Finally some good news for Islam. It looks like the shooter of Congress Woman Gabrielle Giffords was not I repeat NOT a Muslim.
So yes Muslim you can not let out a sigh of relief. It must feel good to know that of all the murders in the world committed by Muslims at least this ONE was done by a non Muslim.
Althoug it is being reported that he did stop at a 7-11 and buy a cup of coffee from the Muslim owner before the shooting. So there is a Islamic connection :)
what a silly little man tfm is. not even a christian according to views of those he tries to defend.
Its official. Fatman has lost it!
fatman see my blog, i've hundreds of articles by top christian officials raping and murdering mostly other women, even to some muslims too.
be a man and check out what your holy spirit does.
@ALI
Well your done.
Mark 3:28-29
"I tell you the truth, all the sins and blasphemies of men will be forgiven them. 29 But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin.”
Mathew 12:32
"Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come."
It's very tolerant of you Yahya to continue to allow virulent comments by Fat Man. May Allah (swt) open his eyes one day...
Well, we could always do a word count and see who's used more derogatory terms on this blog. ;)
RefutingActs17 said...
Well, we could always do a word count and see who's used more derogatory terms on this blog. ;)
Oh please do
ManFat: Mark 3:28-29
"I tell you the truth, all the sins and blasphemies of men will be forgiven them. 29 But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin.”
Jesus died for ALL the sins of mankind. He also died for the sin of blaspheming Holy Satan, oops, Holy Spirit. Hence, we are all saved!
@Yahya Snow
Wow, so far on your blog of "Moderate Peaceful Muslims" I have been insulted more times that I can count. I have seen a constant volley of insults against God and His Holy Spirit. Just total hatred.
So is this what you meant when you invited me to Islam and said it would make me a better person?
Wow you guys consider yourselves to be the Moderate ones.
I'm thinking IBN is soon to be fitted in for a nice looking vest.
And even after pointing it out the last Muslim just had to prove what a filthy mouth he has. Great religion, fellas. Where do I sign up? And how long does it take to develop such a filthy, God-dishonoring mouth?
Fat: WOW, I see the Islam is strong in you. I can see why someone like you would turn to Islam. If I'm not mistaken I believe you said you reverted after reading the AI website. So what did it for you? Was it the deviant sex with little girls, the 4 wives who you can trade out for younger models at the drop of a hat. The sex with slaves whom your right hand posses. Or was it the total hatred for JOOOSH,and everyone else. The ease at which you can kill at the drop of a hat for your prophet and God. I honestly feel sorry for you. careless words typed out on a keyboard. I'm sure you didn't put much thought in what you typed. Didn't even give it a second thought. I can honestly say your Allah is pleased with you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
@Ibn's anonymous defender,
But the kettle is black. Just look at your post.
TYPO: ignorant OF their ignorance.
I'd like to remind people they are responsible for their own comments.
Feel free to review your comments and delete as required.
@fatman
I'm still waiting for the links to your debates - I would like to review at least one. Thanks
I don't know this "pot" character, but thanks for the unwitting admission that you (and your ilk) are the kettle.
By the way, Yahya tipped his hand showing that even he, Yahya of all people, is embarassed by you guys. So please do delete where required.
I won't return the favor and call you ignorant, but it is troubling that you can't seem to find the delete button.
only he can
Who said we can't take the filthy words that so easily roll off your collective tongues? In fact, I'm having a lot of fun watching you try to defend your godless behavior.
Anonymous said...
"do not insult the holy spirit but the christian idea of the holy spirit. The holy spirit is the Angel Gabriel simple as that, not some convoluted unexplainable 1 in 3"
I see so you insult what you believe to be the Angel Gabriel. Go to know.
As far as my debates are concerned I don't know if anyone posted them.
@The moderate insulting, blasphemeing Muslims.
First I don't care if you insult me. It's not big deal. But I do find it funny that I keep getting accused of insulting people as I am getting insulted.
Yahya Snow the blog owner is good at insulting people then cry's fowl and says his feelings are hurt when ever someone takes a jab at him, even in light humored jest.
I was also accused by a "Anonymous" Muslim of demonizing Islam. No buddy I don't have to demonize it. Muslims like Yahya Snow, IBN, Womanof???? Ali, Sam1528 and you are doing a very good job of that all by yourself. I just bring out the ISLAM IN YOU.
This same "Anonymous" Muslim then after cursing, accuses me of being "ashamed of my work" because I do not have links to the debates I had on paltalk. Funny he posts anonymously and then accuses me of being ashamed.
Speaking of cursing. Yahya Snow didn't you do a slam piece on someone for saying "Bullocks" a word that has no meaning to Americans on ABN, and as far as I know has the same meaning as the word your Anonymous Muslim poster used.
So where is your condemnation of your Muslim brother or sister. Oh that's right Muslims always support Muslims against the KUFFAR even if they are the oppressor.
We support Muslims
@fatman
"As far as my debates are concerned I don't know if anyone posted them."
The things that wanna make you wanna say hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
@My Anonymous supporter :)
You see all you have to do is let a Muslim speak, and the true nature of their religion comes out.
The greatest weapon against Muslims is Islam, and the greatest weapon against Islam is Muslims.
fatman i can blaspheme the satanic spirit all i want. i reject your man made trinity and false paul. what a hypocrite you insult muslims and islam yet you get so offended and talk as if the world literaly ended.
remember everyone, the holy spirit guides ALL christians.
@Fatman,
Please stop reveling in a bad word used by an anonymous commenter. The comments are approved automatically. I have removed the comments containing the bad word. Let me know if I missed any.
Muslims are setting the standard in apologetics - we are calling people out on dishonesty and misbehaviour
When your debates do eventually show up please do send me the link - you remind me of Sam; TGV was quizzing him as to where his debates - why they are not on his site and what have you.
I would not be surprised if your debates veer off onto the subject of politics. You seem to be very motivated by the actions of terrorists rather than the words of the Bible.
Perhaps if you had both eyes on the Bible you would see the Truth of Islam - inshaAllah.
I challenge you to go through ALL the Bible this year as well as the Quran with an OPEN HEART. Do you accept this challenge?
Seen as you have rightfully objected to bad language I expect you to rebuke Sam and other Christian apologists who use bad language.
//and the greatest weapon against Islam is Muslims.//
you know, the holy spirit inside of fatman is right for once.
@Anonymous Muslim
Actually I take that back. I do know that Nakdemon tried to post one on his Youtube page. But it was corrupt so he said he was going to retry again. I also know that one of them, just the Audio was posted on a Muslim site. I don't have the link. So go onto paltalk and into the "Islam v's Christianity Et El room and ask them.
To be honest the debates weren't that good. The first one the Muslim tried to use a single chapter in Mathew to say that the Son of Man was really Mohamed. But when confronted with all the Son of Man passages in the book of Mathew his only response was "Well I have to fall back to my position and say that the bible is corrupt" lol
The second debate was "Who were the real Christians in the light of scripture before Nice 325 AD"
The Muslim made asbolutly no positive case. He gave a 15 minute speech laced with appeals to authority, argued that I did not understand the topic, said that the Real Christians used the Old Testament as their scripture, and a Christian was anyone who followed Jesus Christ.
But then in the cross X he alluded to various groups like the gnostics as being the "Real Christians". Only problem is that the Gnostics rejected the Old Testament. He also alluded to the Ebonites, only problem with them is that they did not believe that Jesus was born of a virgin and that Jesus was crucified.
He then said something strange that the Arians were the closest to the Pre Islamic Muslim Christians and that Arias would of used the 27 books of the New Testament as scripture. But that didn't count because the the New Testament wasn't canonized until after 325 AD.
For those of you that don't know. Arius believed that Christ was created a lesser God, and that He created the world.
@Yahya Snow
"Muslims are setting the standard in apologetics - we are calling people out on dishonesty and misbehaviour"
WOW yeah see that on this Blog, setting the standard on Blaspheming, insulting and cursing. I just scrolled through the comment section looking for something and I noticed you have been quite busy deleting all of the MUSLIM COMMENTS lol. Wow some standard.
@Yahya
Why are you deleting my posts? Oh it must be because I copied the vile posts from your Muslim brothers into mine so you have to delete it. Ok I will from now on edit your Muslim brothers when the fowl mouth spirit of Islam comes out.
@Yahya SNow
With all the deleting of comments that your doing to hide the foul mouth comments of your Muslim brethren. You should rename your blog "The Great Muslim Cover UP"
thefatman ,
Why are you so sensitive? You should be able to take in what you dish out.
Is the 'holey spirit' (not holy) in you so sensitive?
In the same vein , are we actually witnessing the real christian in you?
silly fat-woman,
he insults then cry's when hes insulted.
Look at these Muslims. Even after being exposed as gutter mouths for Allah, and even after being exposed as unabashed blasphemers of the Holy One, and even after one of your own went about cleaning up the mess you guys made of your pretensions of following the right path and being rightly guided even though you can't bridle your own tongues, you guys still can't stop revealing the depths of your depravity. Thanks for further proving to us what we already know: Muslims are proof of the depravity and corruption of human nature since the fall of our first parents; and apart from the Holy Spirit whom you guys ridicule you are incapable of even seeing it much less overcoming it.
//Muslims are proof of the depravity and corruption of human nature//
so you're saying you believe in evolution?
and YOU can't see the holy spirit either.
To the Anonymous who said...
"Look at these Muslims. Even after being exposed as gutter mouths for Allah"
It's funny for a long time Yahya Snow wanted me to change my nick. He said it was offensive to me, he said he cared about me bla bla bla.
No the only thing he cared about is the nick was low hanging fruit for his Muslim brethren. (One of the reasons why I chose it)
From day one on this blog all I heard was Fatbastard...Fatidiot...etc"
Muslims have no impulse control. Thats why some Muslim men can see a woman alone, burkafried or not, and think they can rape her.
Oh well enjoy the show.
First to Sam1528 and the Anonymous Muslim.
First when have I ever insulted anyone on this blog. I'm not saying I haven't but I'm just wondering when that happend. I know I called Yahays Snow, Yahays Snowjob and Snowman a few times. But other then that?
Second I'm not complaining at all. I actually laugh at you guys when you do it, which is all the time. I think its great, that I do bring out the Islam in the Muslims. Keep it up. Like I said the greatest weapon against Islam is Muslims.
The only reason I bring it up is to point out to Yahya Snow that he is a total hypocrite, and I must say with his latest comment totally delusional.
Yahya Snow says "Muslims are setting the standard in apologetics - we are calling people out on dishonesty and misbehaviour"
He makes this statement in a furry of insults, blaspheming, cursing all by Muslims. He then has to cover up and DELETE all of these comments.
He deleted a total of 11 comments. Only three of them where from me, and that was only because I had copied the offensive statements from Muslims.
Yup but Muslims are sure setting the standard.
First to Sam1528 and the Anonymous Muslim.
First when have I ever insulted anyone on this blog. I'm not saying I haven't but I'm just wondering when that happend. I know I called Yahays Snow, Yahays Snowjob and Snowman a few times. But other then that?
Second I'm not complaining at all. I actually laugh at you guys when you do it, which is all the time. I think its great, that I do bring out the Islam in the Muslims. Keep it up. Like I said the greatest weapon against Islam is Muslims.
The only reason I bring it up is to point out to Yahya Snow that he is a total hypocrite, and I must say with his latest comment totally delusional.
Yahya Snow says "Muslims are setting the standard in apologetics - we are calling people out on dishonesty and misbehaviour"
He makes this statement in a furry of insults, blaspheming, cursing all by Muslims. He then has to cover up and DELETE all of these comments.
He deleted a total of 11 comments. Only three of them where from me, and that was only because I had copied the offensive statements from Muslims.
Yup but Muslims are sure setting the standard.
thefatman,
Your comment ;
'..First when have I ever insulted anyone on this blog..'
'..I'm not saying I haven't..'
In just 2 sentences you contradicted yourself. Are you mentally stable?
The one who is overly sensitive is you and the christians.
A pattern is already emerging. You / anthony rogers have contributed nothing so far. All you guys stated are quips / quirks trying to be cute. When the same is done to you , you cry foul.
Like I stated , you need to inform the 'holey spirit' in you not to be so sensitive.
Food for thought. How many muslims did your hero shamoun (the warrior) convert to christians compared to how many christians reverted to Islam by ... say bro joshua evans.
Interesting yeah ....
'Food for thought. How many muslims did your hero shamoun (the warrior) convert to christians compared to how many christians reverted to Islam by ... say bro joshua evans.
Interesting yeah ....'
Good insight brother, the only people they seem to convert are fake Muslims.
Christian apologetics is at a dismal state, they can't convert anybody so their only activity now is to attack and insult Islam to try to block the flood gates.
Any christian who critically analyzes the bible will come to the conclusion that the current bible is not the work of God but made by the hand of man to legitimize Pauline thought, its so obvious. That's why so many christians (especially trained clergy) get turned off by the bible and believe all religions are alike and end up becoming atheists. Christian apologetics has become nothing more than a pep rally to hold the fort down.
1 Corinthians 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
So basically Paul is saying dumb yourself up and don't ask to much questions so you don't rock the boat.
So Paul is saying ignorance is bliss.
What a rational religion.
Sam1528...I am confused, what does Anthony Rogers have to do with anything? You mentioned his name, but I don't see any reference to him in the preceding discussion. Why bring him up? Care to explain? As far as I know, Anthony has challenged Yahya to debate. To date, Yahya has consistently declined all such challenges. I, for one, would love to see such a debate happen. Although I don't think Yahya has much to offer, that would be part of the point. A debate would show, in real color, just how apologetically challenged Yahya is.
1 Corinthians 3:18
Muslim: Are you stupid or something. Christian: Paul says stupid is as stupid does
1 Corinthians 3:18
Muslim: Are you stupid or something.
Christian: Paul says stupid is as stupid does
anon ,
Pls dig up his (anthony rogers) old posts. Shouldn't be too difficult.
@anonymous
Nobody is afraid of Anthony Rogers. In fact, if my memory serves me right he refused to debate brother TGV on a topic TGV sprung on him.
If Rogers was this terminator of debaters he would certainly have accepted the challenge.
Think about it
Iron sharpens iron as one man sharpens another
@Fatman,
Muslims are setting the bar.
How do you know those anonymous comments were from a Muslim? You don't.
I am regularly abused on the internet but I certainly know how to ignore it and pray for the one doing the abusing. Never respond to a wrong with a wrong.
Think about it
Iron sharpens iron as one man sharpens another.
Steven Emerson has 3.39 million reasons to fear Muslims.
That's how many dollars Emerson's for-profit company – Washington-based SAE Productions – collected in 2008 for researching alleged ties between American Muslims and overseas terrorism. The payment came from the Investigative Project on Terrorism Foundation, a nonprofit charity Emerson also founded, which solicits money by telling donors they're in imminent danger from Muslims.
Emerson is a leading member of a multimillion-dollar industry of self-proclaimed experts who spread hate toward Muslims in books and movies, on websites and through speaking appearances.
Leaders of the so-called "anti-jihad" movement portray themselves as patriots, defending America against radical Islam. And they've found an eager audience in ultra-conservative Christians and mosque opponents in Tennessee. One national consultant testified in an ongoing lawsuit aimed at stopping a new Murfreesboro mosque.
The Tennessean, 24 October 2010
An interesting article by Bob Smietana, examining the highly profitable Islamophobia industry in the US. In addition to Emerson's Investigative Project on Terrorism, Smietana also deals with the Nashville-based Center for the Study of Political Islam, Frank Gaffney's Center for Security Policy, Jihad Watch, ACT! For America and the American Congress for Truth
@Yahya Snow
You said ....
"I am regularly abused on the internet "
Wow a abuser get's abused lol. Sir you are abuser on the internet.
@fatman
Nice quips but no substance :)
I'm still waiting for links to your debates.
Peace
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