Islamophobes are constantly making wild claims as to the reasons behind Muslim dislike of America. The intellectual, Noam Chomsky, reveals some home truths our Islamophobic friends do not want you to hear...
A excerpt from Noam Chomsky Interview on CBC.
Evan Solomon talks with Noam Chomsky about his book "Hegemony or Survival: America's Quest for Global Dominance". The show is Hot Type on CBC.
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Noam Chomsky LOL
Your appealing to NOAM CHOMSKY now lol.
Did you hear what he said "States should dissolve themselves", LOL.
Sorry he is not in favor of a Islamic Caliphate LOL
Radical Moderate: It's well expected that Christians will go against scholarship. Either you put meaningful counter arguments or just shut up.
1moremuslim, You don't even know who Noam Chomsky is lol. Because if you did you would never say something as foolish as
"It's well expected that Christians will go against scholarship."
@Yahya Snow
Before I post what is becomeing my daily "Another Isolated Case of Muslims acting like Muslims" I'm wondering if you found that Muslim charity that free's Muslim slaves from Christian slave owners?
How many Christian slaves can I put you down for? It's only $109 to free a slave.
Well here we go, another Isolated case of Muslims acting like Muslims. I guess they never got your memo either that Muslims are the brothers of Jesus.
"Washington--International Christian Concern (ICC) has learned that on April 21 four Muslims beat an evangelist to death and assaulted his pregnant wife in Worabe, Ethiopia, an area that is 97% Muslim.
The Muslims lured Evangelist Abraham Abera from Kale Hiwot Church, his home and place of ministry, at 9:30 p.m. They told him that his friend was sick and needed his immediate attention. Abraham left with the men; they turned on him and began to beat him with rods. The minister's wife, Birtukan, saw the men attack her husband and ran to intervene, but the Muslims beat her as well.
Abraham died on the spot and his wife, who sustained a severe head injury, was left unconscious in the street. She was found and taken to a hospital in Butajira, where she regained consciousness on April 22nd and was able to recount the details of the attack. Birtukan spoke with an ICC source and said that she knew two of the attackers. She said that as the Muslims were beating her and her husband, they told them, "You (Christians) are growing in number in our area. You are spreading your message (the gospel). We will destroy you."
Muslims acting like Muslims
Radical moderate,
Come on teach me about who is Noam Chomsky. Knowing or not knowing who Noam Chomsky is, you still didn't give any counter arguments. Genetic Fallacy; I don't like what he says, so what he says must be wrong. I probably watched all of Chomsky's debates on Youtube, and I didn't see anyone able to refute his views, Just personal attacks like yours.
1moremuslim said...
"I probably watched all of Chomsky's debates on Youtube, and I didn't see anyone able to refute his views, Just personal attacks like yours."
Wow no one has been able to refute his views lol, coming from a Muslims that is a meaningless statement. Since I'm sure you think no one can refute the views of say Osama Adbulla, Esthshaam Guliam, Nadir Achmed lol.
Let me ask you, did any Christian refute any of the views that any of the above mentioned Muslims brought up in debates?
So you have watched all of his debates, so can you tell me if his world view fits with the Islamic world view of a Islamic Caliphate?
Have you read any of his books? Probably not there really dense and way over your head.
The thing about Noam Chomsky is that for him US and World History begins after 1945. Hardly a place to begin. To make matters worse his views are skewed by neo Lennin\Stalinism, he views the Cold War as made up propaganda, as if there was no threat from the Soviet Block.
Well you Muslims have fun appealing to Noam Chomsky, I mean it couldn't be any worse, Bart Ehrman, John Dominick Crossin, etc.. Whats next? I wouldn't be surprised to see a Muslim appeal to Anton LaVey.
You Muslims have proven time and time again that you will use anything, and anyone to attack Christ, and Western Civilization.
Radical Moderate,
That is because Islam is and always has been completely incapable of original thought. Muhammad couldn't come up with anything new, and his drones who copy his behavior today are doomed to the same fate and the same lack of originality.
To Radical Moderate:
It's time for you to learn how to use your God Given Brain. None of your multiple arguments have anything to do with the subject at hand : Why Arabs hate the USA? All of what you say fall in the same fallacy stated before, Chomsky is wrong about X, so he must be wrong about anything else he says, or : The Catholics believe in false doctrine of purgatory, then they must be wrong about Jesus being the Son of God... So Now Bart Ehrman is not good enough! loool. By the way, have you seen my last video about James White and Bart Ehrman's debate? Have you ever seen James White or Sam Shamoon acknowledge their stupid and premitive mistakes about Arabic words? I have seen Shabir Ally acknowledging a mistake with regard to Greek words. That tells volumes. Can you name one Non-Christian scholar of NT that you consider good enough?
To the Anonymous:
" That is because Islam is and always has been completely incapable of original thought. "
If you mean by Original thoughts, things like, Trinity and the Man 100% God, 100 % Man, Omniscient and ignorant at the same time, then I must Admit, Muslims are incapable of that, and many other foolishnesses.
Why did I know the snowman was like a hippy follower of Noam? Noam Chomsky hates America. No patriot supports Noam.
See Radical Moderate, one anonymous put another example of how not to deal with the subject, he says: " Noam Chomskey hates America", Thank you Anonymous, I wouldn't find a better example to teach Radical Moderate about fallacies.
1moremuslim said...
"See Radical Moderate, one anonymous put another example of how not to deal with the subject, he says: " Noam Chomskey hates America",
Well Noam Chomsky does hate capitalism, he hates constitutional republican democracy. He is a Lennin\Stalinist.
He is so far to the left, that even the left disown him. The type of people he attracts are the self proclaimed "Anarchists" even though he is not a anarchist. Those are the people that riot and burn at G8 conventions.
You asked for me to refute what he says, what is there to refute, should I refute what he said in the video "All states should dissolve themselves because they are iligitamet?" Or words the that effect.
Do I need to refute that? You do realize that by all states he also means any Islamic Caliphate State that may or may not come about.
So do I need to refute that for you?
Radical Moderate:
You are a text book on fallacies
" Well Noam Chomsky does hate capitalism, he hates constitutional republican democracy. He is a Lennin\Stalinist."
I believe that is completely false, in no place does he show any sympathy for Stalinists. Anyways, these still falls in the same Fallacy: IF your preposition is True, that will not make his preposition false, namely WHY MUSLIMS HATE AMERICA.
You can say that Chomsky beats his wife, and kills his new born children, that is IRRELEVANT.
" The type of people he attracts are the self proclaimed "Anarchists" even though he is not a anarchist. Those are the people that riot and burn at G8 conventions."
That is called guilt by asociation, Jesus attracts people like medieval popes and Tyrans, so Jesus is bad.
You know what , Radical Moderate, Forget about it.
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1moreMuslim said...
"I believe that is completely false, in no place does he show any sympathy for Stalinists."
YOU NEED TO READ HIS BOOKS. There is a reason why he starts at 1945 for his world view on history, because if he went back to the 20's and thirties, he would have to acknowledge the genocides committed under Stalin to create the workers paradise.
1moremuslim said...
"You can say that Chomsky beats his wife, and kills his new born children, that is IRRELEVANT."
Only a Muslim could say that beating your wife and killing new born children is IRRELEVANT.
Let me put it to you this way, if I was to give a quote from Anton Levey would you accept it. You know who Anton Levey is don't you?
See the problem with you Muslims is in your zeal to condemn freedom, condemn, capitalism, condemn Christianity, condemn the Jews and Israel, you will use anything from anyone no matter who that person is, even if that person views go against your own world view. YOU MUSLIMS CAN NOT DISCERN.
@Yahya Snow and the rest of the Muslims.
I am shocked that no Muslim has stepped up to help free Christian slaves from Muslim Slave owners.
So much for Islam ending slavery.
Radical,
Hold on. I thought the slaves were Muslims?
Did you not say the slaves were Muslims when you and I discussed it last night? I got the impression the slave master was a Muslim and the slaves were Muslims whilst Christian charities were trying to free them
Is this correct or is this an isolated case within the Christian community of Christians enslaving their co-religionists?
In any case, did I not ask you to find us a Muslim charity which involves itself in freeing these (or other) slaves?
Find the charity and let the donations flow in...
YES, I will help Christian slaves too!
I bet that has shocked you as you have been over at AM thinking Muslims spend every last second of the day planning to destroy Christians and America.
Don't believe everything you hear from crazed Islamophobes...
Iron sharpens iron as one man sharpens another.
PS Chomsky is a scholar.
I believe he is the most cited living scholar - I heard something like that a few years back.
Look him up Radical Moderate. I'm surprised you do not believe he is a scholar.
Either you have lived a sheltered life in a Christian home school believing folk such as Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort are amongst the world's elite scholars or you have allowed yourself to e indoctrinated by the folk at AM and now you believe scholarship can only be arrived at via lying and bombarding opponents with insults.
Radical Moderate:
" if I was to give a quote from Anton Levey would you accept it. You know who Anton Levey is don't you? "
I don't have any Idea about who Anton Levey is, but I believe that Quotes Should be handled independently , If you quote Anton saying : 2+2=4 , should I refuse to believe it?
To give you an example from your NT. Who is the worst of God's creators? The Devil right? Well The Devil says that God is One, Would you accept that from the Devil? Hope you get it.
Give a reference about Chomsky being in favor of Stalin. I believe you mishandle his books like you do with the Bible.
Radical Moderate: I find this quote from Anton Levey
"It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful."
— Anton LaVey
I dedicate this for you.
1moremuslim said...
"Radical Moderate: I find this quote from Anton Levey
"It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful."
— Anton LaVey
I dedicate this for you."
You finally quoted a true follower of ISLAM.
@Yahya Snow
you said...
"Look him up Radical Moderate. I'm surprised you do not believe he is a scholar."
I never said he wasn't a scholar, he is a fine scholar, he is a linguist, and has written some definitive works on the linguistics ,especially relating to the history of languages and the philosophy behind the development of languages.
However his politics are like I said so far the the Left that even the LEFT disowns him.
What did he say in the video you posted. "I believe that ALL STATES, should dissolve themselves because they are are iligitimate." What does that tell you about his politics?
This man believes there was no threat from the Soviets, he believes that the cold war was not real and made up to sell products. NO ONE and I MEAN NO ONE believes that the threat from the Soviets was not real.
Read his works, his position on US and world history always and I mean always begins after 1945.
He is a Anarcho-syndicalis, this is in essence Marxest\Lennonist\Stalinism.
There are difference's but the end result is the same. States dissolve resulting in a workers paradise.
But hey if you want to associate with the politics of Noam Chomesky go ahead, just to let you know, Noam Chomsky has no place for Islam or the Caliphate.
1moreMuslim
You said...
"Well The Devil says that God is One, Would you accept that from the Devil?"
The actual quote is "you say there is one God, good so do the demons in hell and they shudder"
So no I do not accept that there is one god because the daemons confess that there is one God.
The same way I do not believe that Christ is Son of God, because the demons are forced to confess it and beg to be left alone.
In other words I would never say "Believe in God, and Christ because the demons in hell and devil do.
So I would never site the devil or his demons as a source for the existence of God.
Yeah Rad Mod, you did not say he was not a scholar. I just got the impression you implied or said he was not a scholar.
I take that back.
However, he is an intellectual who is respected throughout the world as a scholar of social affairs - sure neither of us agree with all his views - hence the use of Chomsky.
Now, if you disagree with his views you must bring forward argumentation to back yourself up. You have simply began to point out those who associate with him, what some other Leftists think of him and his view on states.
You have MISSED the entire reason of the post - Chomsky tells us why the M.E. dislike America. His conclusion is differen to the dribble you and other Islamophobes would have us believe.
His conclusion is sound and yours is fanciful to say the least.
On states, yes, man needs to live in an ordered system rather than anarchy. Without states or some other form of social regulaton we would have anarachy. BOTH of us would disagree with his ideas on states and the Islamic State.
Do you see what I just did, rather than ridiculing Noam Chomsky I interacted with his material.
It's not difficult.
Chomsky has more respect than all the pseudo-scholars you hang about with. Chomsky stays in the Big Borhter house!
Peace
Yahya Snow said...
"Do you see what I just did, rather than ridiculing Noam Chomsky I interacted with his material."
First I don't think I ridculed Noam Chomsky I ridculed your appeal to Noam Chomsky.
Second you did not interact with his material, the only thing you did is say you agree with him, with out stating what it is you agree with.
He mentioned that in 1958 President Eisenhower is a study of why people in Muslim nations despised the US.
He then went on to state that it was perceived by the people that the US was not allowing democracy in the ME. That this perception is true because the US wanted to control the oil.
Noam Chonsky left out a few things, a few very important questions.
Things you failed to ask, in your zeal to covent all things hatefull against the US and Western Civilization.
Like what was happening in 1958?
Also what kind of "democracy" these people in the ME wanted?
And finally what is meant by "control" of the oil?
See that is interacting with his material.
@Yahya Snow
Correction
I wrote "Like what was happening in 1958?"
It should be "Like what where the Geo Political events from 1945 to 1958?"
@Yahya Snow
Actually here is a question I would very much like you to answer.
According the Noam Chomsky would you say that the USA has been oppressing Muslims since 1958?
@Yahya
You wrote....
"Hold on. I thought the slaves were Muslims?"
No sir I said that they were Christian slaves, and one was a revert, who was forced to convert to Islam after being raped and beatin by her Muslim slave owners.
I said very clearing these were ARAB MUSLIM Slaver's.
So I don't know how you could come to that conclusoin.
But be that as it may I asked you as A muslim since yuo like to claim that Islam ended slavery, to help support the freeing of these slaves.
You said you would donate only to a Muslim charity, and you want me to find you a Muslim charity that free's Christian slaves from Muslim slaver owners.
As if I could find one. So I countered that I would donate to a Muslim charity taht was freeing Muslim slaves from Christian slave owners if you could find one.
So can you find me a charity that does that? If not then please help free slaves from Muslim slaver owners by donating to the charity. For only $109 you can free a slave just like you believe Islam teaches.
Radical Moderate you are champion of diversion. The Question was do you accept the statement of Demons when they say God is One? I am not speaking about who convince you of what you believe. I believe what Chomsky says before even I knew Chomsky.
You like it or not, Bart Ehrman is a brilliant scholar. No one can convince of whatever you refuse to believe. You are like the 25% of Americans who believe that Obama wasn't born in USA, nothing would make them realize they are wrong, because they are RACISTS, since Racism is a bad word, they call themselves Birthers. Similarly, you are a bunch of Muslim haters, hiding behind the label Christians. You have nothing to do with the prince of peace.
@1moreMuslim
You wrote....
" You are like the 25% of Americans who believe that Obama wasn't born in USA, nothing would make them realize they are wrong, because they are RACISTS, since Racism is a bad word, they call themselves Birthers."
You do realize that I voted for President Obama, I was invited to Grant Park on election night. I believe that the US should have Nationalized Health Care, and I believe that President Obama was Born in HI.
Now I am not happy with President Obama getting the US involved in Libya, I'm not happy at all, and I am not happy with a few of the things he has done in his first term, but I will more then likely vote for him for a second term.
However I do want to respond to what you also wrote...
"The Question was do you accept the statement of Demons when they say God is One?"
No I do not accept that statement, for a number of reasons. The first is because that statement is not the truth. The demons do not say that God is one, James the brother of Jesus writes "You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder! that is a statement I accept from JAMES THE BROTHER OF JESUS not from the DEMONS.
So now you can go back to siting the founder of the Church or Satan, the author of the Satanic Bible.
Radical Moderate , again you are a champion of diversion.
Do you accept the demon's statement God is One as a true statement?
This is yes or no question.
It's interesting to note how James defines faith : To believe in One God. Not God died for your sins.
@Rad Mod
1958? the West' oppression of Muslims spans well back into history. Forget 1958.
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