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| Islamophobic bigots and their tricks |
As is their wont, Christian bigots have been rabble rousing in their immature (and perverted) attempts at sowing seeds of doubt in the Muslim mind. All this despite the fact that Christianity does not prohibit anal sex. Perhaps that is the reason why these bigots are so active as they know Islamic teachings of sexual relationships are free from such unnatural perversions.
Before discussing Islam’s view on the subject and analysing the copy and paste spiel the Christian bigot was utilizing we should rehearse the Christian view on anal sex.
Christian view on anal sex
Anal sex (between husband and wife) is not forbidden in Trinitarian Christianity though homosexuality is prohibited despite the protestations of many modern day Christians who wish to conform to secular views on sexuality. In fact, the perverted (anonymous) Christian bigot (s) could well interpret the Bible as not only allowing anal sex but other sexual practices the husand desires as the Bible states:
Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. [Ephesians 5:24, NIV]
Of course, the Bible is the Christian’s business and we shall leave Christians to decide whether anal sex is prohibited or not. I know of no such prohibition in the Bible and would welcome a Christian to add further insight to the discussion.
I genuinely believe the Christian bigot’s efforts are motivated by a tacit admission that Christianity has not laid down clear rules in this regard – thus he tries to bring Islam down to such a level.
Islamic view on anal sex
“All the religious scholars are of the opinion that anal sexual intercourse with a woman is unlawful” [1]
Forget about Islamic scholars for a second, what about the Prophet Muhammad (p)? There are ahadith (narrations) from the Prophet telling us the practice of anal sex is FORBIDDEN:
1 – It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The one who has intercourse with his wife in her back passage has disavowed himself of that which was revealed to Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).” Narrated by Abu Dawood (3904); classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.
2 – It was narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah will not look at a man who has intercourse with a woman in her back passage.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi (1165); classed as saheeh by Ibn Daqeeq al-‘Eid in al-Ilmaam (2/660) and by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.
3 – It was narrated that Khuzaymah ibn Thaabit (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah is not too shy to tell the truth” three times. “Do not have intercourse with women in their back passages.” Narrated by Ibn Maajah (1924); classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Ibn Maajah.
And there are many similar ahaadeeth. Al-Tahhaawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in Sharh Ma’aani al-Athaar (3/43): The reports concerning that reach the level of tawaatur. [2]
As regards your question, anal intercourse with one's wife is a major sin, whether it occurs at the time of menstruation or not. The Prophet SAWS (Peace & Blessings of Allah be upon Him) cursed the one who does this: "Cursed is the one who approaches his wife in her rectum" (Reported by Imaam Ahmad, 2/479; see also Saheeh al-Jaami', 5865). [5]
The Prophet SAWS (Peace & Blessings of Allah be upon Him) also said: "The one who has intercourse with a menstruating woman, or with a woman in her rectum, or who goes to a fortune-teller, has disbelieved in what was revealed to Muhammad." (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, no. 1/243; see also Saheeh al-Jaami', 5918). [5]
So there you have reports from the Prophet which teach us anal sex is forbidden in Islam.
Christian bigots and Surah 2:223
Before discussing what the Christian bigot brought to the table we should offer a scholarly view upon Surah 2:223 as the bigot was trying to influence Muslims towards his debauched and unscholarly view.
Some people imagine that it is permissible to have intercourse with one’s wife in her back passage. They understand from the verse (interpretation of the meaning): “Your wives are a tilth for you, so go to your tilth when or how you will” [al-Baqarah 2:223] that Allaah has permitted everything in this verse, even intercourse in the back passage.
This misinterpretation is reinforced for them when they read the hadeeth narrated by al-Bukhaari in his Saheeh – and perhaps this is the hadeeth referred to by the questioner – in which it says: It was narrated that Jaabir (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Jews used to say that if (the man) had intercourse from behind, the child would be born with a squint. Then the verse “Your wives are a tilth for you, so go to your tilth when or how you will” [al-Baqarah 2:223] was revealed.
But this is a misunderstanding of the verse. Allaah says “so go to your tilth when or how you will” which means that all variations of intercourse are permitted, so long as it is in the place of tilth, i.e., the vagina, not the back passage. So it is permissible for a man to have intercourse with his wife from behind or from in front or lying on their sides so long as it is in the place of tilth and not the back passage.
The evidence for that is Muslim’s report (1435) of the hadeeth of Jaabir quoted above about the reason for the revelation of this verse, in which it says: If he wishes, when she is lying on her front and if he wishes when she is not lying on her front, so long as that is in only one opening.
In Abu Dawood’s report of the same hadeeth (2163) it says: It was narrated that Muhammad ibn al-Munkadir said: I heard Jaabir say: The Jews say that if a man has intercourse with his wife in her vagina from behind, the child will have a squint. Then Allaah revealed the words (interpretation of the meaning): “Your wives are a tilth for you, so go to your tilth when or how you will” [al-Baqarah 2:223].
In Sunan al-Tirmidhi (2980) in a report which he classed as hasan, it was narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: ‘Umar came to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said: O Messenger of Allaah, I am doomed! He said: “Why are you doomed?” He said: I changed my direction last night. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not say anything. Then this verse was revealed to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) (interpretation of the meaning): “Your wives are a tilth for you, so go to your tilth when or how you will” [al-Baqarah 2:223]. So approach from the front or the back, but avoid the back passage and the time of menses. Classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.
These ahaadeeth and reports explain what is meant by the verse. So it is not permissible for the Muslim to go beyond that and understand it in ways that are not indicated by the reports or by linguistic usage. [3]
Christian bigots on Ibn Umar (ra)
The Christian bigot brought forward a copy and paste concerning Ibn Umar (ra), like the typical perverted bigot he capitalised the word “anuses”:
"It came down regarding approaching women in their ANUSES." [al-Tabari, Abu Ja'far Muhammad Ibn Jarir. Jami al-Bayan an Ta'wil Aay al-Qur'an [AKA. Tafsir al Tabari]. Ed. Abd Allah Ibn Abd al-Mushin al Turki. 26 vols. Cairo: Hajr Center, AH 1422/AD 2001. Print. v. 3 p.751]
So we have already seen the Prophet Muhammad forbade (prohibited) the practice of anal sex yet this Christian bigot is trying to convince us that anal sex is allowed – he is clearly confusing Christianity with Islam either that or he is utterly ignorant of the narrations of the Prophet FORBIDDING anal sex.
However, let’s put the bigot out of his misery and offer the scholarly explanation concerning Ibn Umar (ra) – who was either misunderstood or in error initially and later changed his view to forbid anal sex upon receiving further information:
Perhaps the question is also referring to what al-Bukhaari narrated from Naafi’ from Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him): “so go to your tilth when or how you will”; he said: “He may approach her from …”
Ibn Hajar said in Fath al-Baari (8/189):
This is how it appears in all the texts. It does not mention what comes after the word “from”. End quote.
And he quoted what is mentioned in some reports elsewhere than in Saheeh al-Bukhaari, that Ibn ‘Umar said: He may approach her in her back passage.
But the scholars answered that in two ways:
1 – That it was a mistake on the part of some of those who narrated it from Ibn ‘Umar, and they understood from it that it was permissible to have intercourse in the back passage, when in fact he was narrating that it is permissible to have intercourse with one's wife in her vagina from behind, based on what is mentioned in saheeh reports from him that he regarded it as haraam to have intercourse with one’s wife in her back passage. And al-Nasaa’i narrated in al-Sunan al-Kubra (5/315) with a saheeh isnaad that Ibn ‘Umar was asked about that and he said: Would a Muslim do that?!
Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in Tahdheeb al-Sunan (2/146):
It is narrated in a saheeh report that he interpreted the verse as referring to intercourse in the vagina coming from the back, which is what was narrated from Naafi’. Those who thought that Naafi’ improved of intercourse in the back passage are gravely mistaken; rather what he meant was having intercourse from the back in the vagina. Thus they were confused when they thought that when he said “from the back” he meant the back passage; but what he meant by that was coming from the back but putting it in the place of intercourse, namely the vagina. Those people were confused when they understood the words of Naafi’ “from the back” as meaning “in the back (passage)”.
The second answer is:
That this was ijtihaad on the part of Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) about the meaning of the verse. The Sunnah and the views of all the Sahaabah indicate that it was an incorrect ijtihaad. Abu Dawood (2164) narrated, in a report that was classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood, that Ibn ‘Abbaas said:
Ibn ‘Umar – may Allaah forgive him – imagined, and this was a tribe of the Ansaar who had been idol-worshippers, along with this tribe of the Jews, who were people of the Book, and thought that they (the Jews) were superior to them in knowledge; they used to follow their examples in many of their deeds.. The people of the Book did not have intercourse with their wives except on their sides, and that was most concealing for the woman. This tribe of the Ansaar had adopted that from them. And this tribe of Quraysh used to make the woman lie in whatever position they wanted and enjoy them in various ways. When the Muhaajiroon came to Madeenah, one of their men married a woman of the Ansaar, and he went to do that with her but she objected and said: We have intercourse lying on our sides, so do that or keep away from me. Their problem got worse until news of that reached the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and Allaah revealed the words (interpretation of the meaning): “Your wives are a tilth for you, so go to your tilth when or how you will” [al-Baqarah 2:223]., i.e., from the front or the back or lying, meaning the place of birth.
This could support the reports that Ibn ‘Umar used to say that it was permissible to have intercourse in the back passage, but then perhaps he came back to the correct view, after Ibn ‘Abbaas or someone else explained to him the reason why this verse was revealed and what its correct meaning was. Hence it is proven – as stated above – that he said that it was haraam, and he said: Would a Muslim do that?!
To conclude: Islam forbids this action, and there is nothing to indicate that it is permissible. The one who thinks that there is anything in the Qur’aan and Sunnah to indicate that is mistaken. [4]
Christian bigot and Ibn al-Arabi
The bigot also brought some copy and paste job concerning Ibn al Arabi. His copy and paste does not tell us what was being made permissible, thus it pointless! In any case, we have already seen sayings from the Prophet Muhammad (p) [see above] letting us know anal sex is forbidden – this is our proof text!
Not only that, we have also seen the views of all the sahaba (companions of the Prophet) which considered anal sex to be forbidden. All four schools of fiqh (jurisprudence) forbid this act.
For thoroughness here is the ambiguous and irrelevant copy and paste from the bigot concerning Ibn Al Arabi:
Ibn al-'Arabi "found support to its permissibility among a noble group of the Companions and the followers of Malik in several stories." [Ibn al-Arabi, Abu Bakr Muhammad Ibn 'Abd Allah. Ahkam al-Qur'an. Ed. T. Muhammad 'Abd al-Qadir 'Ata. 4 vols. Beirut: Dar al-Kutub al-'Ilmiya, AH 1424/AD 2003. Print. v. 1 p. 238. Trans. by Former Muslim]
Conclusion
FACT: Islam forbids anal sex whilst Christianity does not.
The Christian bigot who was striving to promote the perverted agenda of other Christian bigots simply highlights his ignorance of Islam and Christianity. A Muslim named Sam summed the bigot's mistaken effort up:
The conclusions we can make of Christians insisting anal sex in Quran2:223 are
(1) the said Christians are sex perverts
(2) the said Christians don't understand what they read
(3) the said Christians are sex perverts and don't understand what they read.
Further reading
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid on this subject:
http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/1103
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[1] Footnote from page 327 of Bulugh al Maram With Brief Notes from the Book Subul us Salam, Darussalam, 2002
[2] There is nothing in Islam to say that anal intercourse is permissible, Fatwa No. 91968
http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/91968/anal
[3] There is nothing in Islam to say that anal intercourse is permissible, Fatwa No. 91968
http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/91968/anal
[4] Ibid.
[5] Islam Q&A, Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid on the prohibition of anal sex
20 comments:
Yahya here are verses in the Bible speaking of Anal sex:
Jeremiah 49:4- How boastful you are about the valleys (refers to the anus)! O backsliding daughter who trusts in her treasures, {saying,} ' Who will come against me?' (who's gonna tackle her from behind) (Jeremiah 49:4)
thats from sexinchrist.com
Yahya SNow
Wow you really have anal sex on your mind.
Ali
Only a Muslim obessesed with Anal sex would think that "Vally's refers to a Anus" Here is Jer 49, how you can conclude this is about Anal sex; well that says alot more about you then it does about this passage.
Concerning the Ammonites.
Thus says the LORD:
"Has Israel no sons?
Has he no heir?
Why then has(B) Milcom(C) dispossessed Gad,
and his people settled in its cities?
2Therefore, behold, the days are coming,
declares the LORD,
when I will cause(D) the battle cry to be heard
against(E) Rabbah of the Ammonites;
it shall become a desolate(F) mound,
and its villages shall be burned with fire;
then Israel shall dispossess those who dispossessed him,
says the LORD.
3"Wail, O(G) Heshbon, for Ai is laid waste!
Cry out, O daughters of(H) Rabbah!
(I) Put on sackcloth,
lament, and run to and fro among the hedges!
For(J) Milcom shall go into exile,
(K) with his priests and his officials.
4Why do you boast of your valleys,[a]
(L) O faithless daughter,
(M) who trusted in her treasures, saying,
'Who will come against me?'
5Behold,(N) I will bring terror upon you,
declares the Lord GOD of hosts,
from all who are around you,
and you shall be driven out, every man straight before him,
with none to gather the fugitives.
6"But(O) afterward I will restore the fortunes of the Ammonites, declares the LORD."
lol how are we obsessed with anal sex when the West is obsessed with it? only a christian would deny this.
read the link sexinchrist.
Some friends and I will be traveling to Dearborn, Michigan, for an outreach at the Arab International Festival. We're printing pamphlets on Christianity and Islam (including my recent posts "Who Corrupted the Gospel?" and "Who Was Muhammad?"), and we have a team of believers to distribute and explain them. However, costs are high, especially for printing (not to mention travel, etc.). We know someone who can print pamphlets at a cost of $299 for 5,000, or $499 for 10,000. Please contribute as much as possible to support our trip to the festival, as this is a phenomenal opportunity to reach Muslims with the Gospel. (In case anyone is wondering, no one on our end will be profiting financially from the trip. We'll be thrilled if we break even.)
Note: If anyone would like to cover an entire batch of tracts, either 5,000 or 10,000, let me know and I will put you in contact with the printer. You can pay directly via credit card, which means that PayPal and ChipIn won't get a percentage. If anyone covers 10,000 tracts, I will write an entirely new tract (that is, new material will go out to thousands of Muslims).
Brother Yahya what can we do?
Acts 17 is coming back to to the Festival. This time there is nothing that the police or security guards can do. They have already raised over $600 of dollars to hand out their filth. Thats over 10,000 flyers.
They will be able to hand this filth out in side the Festival grounds in front of our woman and children.
Brother what can we do?
@anonymous
yeah you are a christian. you know we can detect christians just the way they speak? its not gonna work wanna revise your philippians 1:18 plan?
Brother, don't worry. I'm working on a special series that is quite revealing about David and Nabeel. I would then suggest Muslims at the festival get their cameras and ask David and Nabeel their opinions as to why they decided to lie.
Brother Ali
What can we do please advice us on what to do. The Christians are coming armed with THE FIRST AMENDMENT and loaded with over 10,000 pamphlets.
What can we do to stop them. We can't go to the security guards to beat them, we can't go to the police to arrest them.
What is the Islamic solution?
Salam Bro Ali
U ar right. If u worship a women, it's natural to proceed as normal human being, on the other hand worshipping a MEN, uh, unthinkable to proceed.
Wassalam.
Anonymous wrote:
What can we do please advice us on what to do. The Christians are coming armed with THE FIRST AMENDMENT and loaded with over 10,000 pamphlets.
What can we do to stop them. We can't go to the security guards to beat them, we can't go to the police to arrest them.
What is the Islamic solution?
Response: Relax brother. Don't worry.
Their pamphlets are ineffective and as ever, there is always something new in store for them.
My advice to you is not to worry as they are irrelevant.
In order to rob a strong man you need to tie him up first.
They don't have the rope or the potency to tie anybody strong up...
Iron sharpens iron as one man sharpens another
Peace
@Ali
Brother that site is deviant site which seems to be opposing Christians and offering unorthodox views concerning the Bible to reflect their perverted agendas.
I would double check the meaning of the verses cited with authentic commentaries as that site is untrustworthy
InshaAllah, Muslims should refute it so Christians are not misled by that site
What is the Islamic solution?
Read Quran, the solution is in there.
To Anonymous:
Paul was disguised as a jew for the Jews, and you are disguised as Muslim for Muslims. It's good to put Christian value at practice.
As for the Islamic solution for david wood's pamphlets, just take their Gospels and show them the forgeries and the contradictions.
@1moremuslim
Paul was a jew, he was not disguised as a jew. Just a little factual information
Brother Snow
Thank you for your advice. I am wondering where did you get such a beautiful saying
" Iron sharpens iron as one man sharpens another"
Is that in the Qur'an? What Surah can I find that in?
Yahya,
The Quran NEVER EVER EVER FORBIDS ANAL SEX. The Shiites are right to their sexual traditions, since the Quran is ambiguous regarding this..."tilth."
anti-Shiite BIGOT!!!
Please be advised that I am not trying to hammer Christians here. But since the Christian "Answering Islam" team has gone way too far with their pathetic attempts to put down Islam, even if it meant they have to LIE to get the job done, then I would like to provide for them useful resources regarding Anal sexuality in Christianity and the Bible.
Please visit the most popular Christian Gays and Lesbians web site on the internet, www.godlovesfags.com.
Make sure to visit their guest book, and see the many Christians who support their web site and agree with their Biblical quotes and resources.
Church Priests/Ministers who changed their sex and still preach in their Churches.
Cursed are those who perform anal sex:
The following was sent to me by brother Waseem Sakka; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.
Regarding your page "Is anal sex really allowed between husband and wife?" There's a couple more hadeeths (Sayings of our Prophet) you can use that are really definitive:
"Cursed is the one who approaches his wife in her rectum" (Reported by Imaam Ahmad, 2/479; see also Saheeh al-Jaami', 5865).
and:
"The one who has intercourse with a menstruating woman, or with a woman in her rectum, or who goes to a fortune-teller, has disbelieved in what was revealed to Muhammad." (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, no. 1/243; see also Saheeh al-Jaami', 5918).
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