Monday 15 July 2013

Backlash: Bassim Gorial's Thug Looking Unstable Again

This Shamoun fella is beyond embarrassing. He has been harassing multiple people on the internet simply because the information that Muslim folk blocked his sneaky attempt to share a podium with a mainstream Muslim speaker has been put out on the net.

Clearly the man is desperate to for attention. Look Sam, these folk think you're an idiot - an unstable one at that - hence why they avoid you like a sensible person avoids dog dirt on the footpath (sidewalk). You attract this internet hate-character (Radical Moderate) who swarms around you like a fly does with dog dirt  and then you march around the internet abusing, threatening and annoying people with your incoherent and illogical comments.

Sam was quite clearly rattled by the first post by Ijaz Ahmad hence his subsequent cyber-craziness. Can somebody sit him down with a cup of tea as there is ANOTHER Ijaz Ahmad article rebuking Sam.

Here is Ijaz Ahmad of the MDI and Calling Christians to expose and rebuke Sam the second time today:

The Shamounian Backlash


The fireworks have begun. I’d like to thank Br. Paul Bilal Williams for resposting the article on his blog, and I’d also like to thank Br. Yahya Snow (the guy who makes those hilarious videos exposing Shamoun) for also reposting it on his blog. Sam Shamoun has reacted badly, quite badly to my article about his behaviour. So badly in fact, he proved the point that I was trying to demonstrate with the article itself – that he is an out of control, foul mouthed, abusive individual. When the article was posted to Br. Yahya’s blog, Sam Shamoun and his cheerleading friend, Radical Moderate (whom I’ve embarrassed here, see his homosexual rape threats here) began to incessantly spam his blog, causing Br. Yahya to remove many abusive and threatening statements:

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Sam Shamoun and Radical Moderate left so many lewd, abusive and threatening comments, that the only comment that is safe enough for children to read, is where he calls me a spineless coward and that he’s humiliating me. Last I checked, Sam Shamoun is the one is has been unable to respond to any of my articles refuting his lies – not a single response – with that I ask, who truly is the spineless coward?
To make it worse, Sam issued a threat on Br. Paul’s blog:
Now you better go into damage control before we post something on answering muslims exposing your lies and slander even further.
Why has he written this? He’s written it because of a clarification email he’s posted on Br. Paul’s blog concerning the Canada catastrophe:
Dear Mr. Shamoun
Thanks for the message. I sent the following to George below. Just now
Dear George
I am sorry but I think that my original hopes of sharing food and having a discussion has changed drastically.
I have had a relationship with Neil Bullock and I was never under the impression that this was a serious debate.
Our center fits approx. 50 people and is used for bridge building.
Our main goal is not to convert people and I don’t like either side feeling uncomfortable.
The speakers that I have are not comfortable with Sam Shamoun. I have never heard of the man before this debate (shows that I’m not in the circuit).
I think its in the best interest of all to cancel unless is was more about breaking bread than the debate.
In the future please let me know the speakers or it makes it hard to frame the event appropriately.
I love people and wish to find common ground as much as possible.
My apologies
Thanks and God Bless
What Sham fails to realise is that I’ve seen this email before – I’m privy to a lot more than he thinks – I’d leave him to ponder on that for a moment or two. It’s probably news to Sham, but what I said in my original expose on him, isn’t refuted by the email, according to the email the organizers did want to pull out because of his presence, that’s exactly what I said:
 Very recently a group of Christians led by Pastor G. Saieg had to secretly set up a dialogue with Muslims in Toronto, Canada. They refused to say that Shamoun was accompanying them. The night before the event, they revealed his participation and the organizers pulled out. It is not because they are afraid of him, but they wish not to have a foul mouthed individual share a stage with them.Ironically enough, the dialogue did happen, without Shamoun, thereby implicitly accepting that he is not an individual that is needed or one which they cannot do without – he is just as dispensable to the Muslim community as he is to the Christian community.
What’s in the above two paragraphs that’s a lie Shamoun? From the Facebook event page itself, it says that the mystery Christian debator was to stay a secret, isn’t that mystery representative you?
The Paradise Forever group representing the Islamic position. The Christian representative will be a surprise until the day of the event, but the one thing I am allowed to say about him is that he is someone who you will want to meet if you have any interest at all in the area of Christian-Muslim discussion.
To which Shamoun himself became upset when they sent the email stating his presence was not conducive to the inter-faith discussion:

9  Sam Shamoun

The only lie, can be Shamoun’s statement about what I said was not true, for his own Facebook page’s comment and the event page itself, both testify to what I say, even the email which he assumed I’d never seen before – also qualifies my statements. What’s worse is Sham’s lying to his fans, the event went on without him, I even have the photos of it!

Sam, your reaction was expected, and I have no problem with you threatening me, for as the servant of God – Christ was persecuted by the followers of Satan (see John 8:44-48), we Muslims, also expect to be persecuted, threatened and abused by you. Save the rhetoric for someone who gives a damn about what you say – that sure as hell, isn’t me.

wa Allaahu ‘Alam.

Note: The original article can be found on Calling Christians, see here:
http://callingchristians.com/2013/07/15/the-shamounian-backlash/

My view: Sam has been used and abused. Literally the bloke has been rinsed by his Christian colleagues. Folk such as James White, Samuel Green and Dave Wood don't care about him. Have they ever bothered to try to really help him? Instead they leave him to wallow in the misery of the internet cesspit he has been decaying in for the last decade.

When was the last time they gave him money? The man has been reduced to begging for money on Paltalk. When was the last time they patted him on the shoulder and said, 'hey Sam you've been doing this for near on 20 years, whatever you have had to say you've said it numerable times, time to focus on your wife and family by getting a real life job'? When was the last time they tried to rehabilitate the guy?

You see, folk such as White and Wood use Sam. They use his arguments and attract more donors, attention and followers than he does. They are the ones who get invited to debates (especially White) whilst Sam gets a patronizing pat on his head and he is told 'they are afraid of you' when they all know that's incorrect. They all know people think Sam Shamoun is obnoxious, rude, possibly mentally ill and unworthy of a platform.

The sad part of this saga is that Sam is suspected to be unwell mentally and there seems to be nothing coming out from those who used to/still hang with him. Christian colleagues of Sam will suspect mental illness in private but have any of them tried to assist the man?

Where's White? Where's Nabeel? Where's Samuel? Why aren't they not tapping him on the shoulder and just saying, 'hey Sam let's try to help you'?

Instead you have flies literally throwing him a few dollars and watching the show of him being made to look an ape on the net. For people such as Radial Moderate this is entertainment. Sam has become a freak show for the internet flies.

And nobody from his own community is lifting a finger. Talk about throwing a guy under the bus once you've had your piece of flesh. Sam Shamoun - Idiotic Arguments:
http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/sam-shamoun-youre-idiot.html

Proof Sam Shamoun is a Fool:
http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/100-proof-sam-shamoun-is-fool.html

Email: yahyasnow@yahoo.co.uk

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Sam said...
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Yahya Snow said...

Sam,

I would allow your comments to stay up if they weren't full of abuse and/or links off topic.

Stay on topic and refrain from abuse.

Try to exercise self-control.

You know I am no afraid of criticising Muslims, see my debate review:

http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/debate-was-muhammad-true-prophet-osama.html

Sam, why is Rogers offering to debate me? Why are you hiding behind him?

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The above post was obviously from me, Anthony Rogers.

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Yahya Snow said...

Sam stop with your abuse.

Don't you get it, I delete your abusive comments. Try to communicate in a coherent and cordial manner

Anthony, stop making false claims.

Anthony Rogers said...

Yahya, quit running from my debate challenge.

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Yahya Snow said...

Sam, try to comment without abuse.

Radical, stop insulting.

Concentrate on the post.

Yahya Snow said...

Chaps, here's another example of Sam's silliness:

http://callingchristians.com/2013/07/15/sam-shamoun-an-anti-immigration-migrant/

Radical Moderate said...

Snowman how was my last post insulting?

Radical Moderate said...

Snowman all u do is delete the comment and you and your new buddy Ijaz write slanderous things and then point to a page with deleted comments and say "see here is the proof" lol

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CallingChristians.com said...

Yahya, see what I meant, Sam is unstable. How many times do you have to tell a grown man to relax, calm down and stop being so aggressive?

He simply refuses to listen, he is not in control of his emotions, he is not in control of his words - he needs help.

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CallingChristians.com said...

Hi Radical,

This is for you (http://callingchristians.com/2013/07/15/radical-moderates-homosexual-fantasies/)

The event did continue without Sam Shamoun, didn't anyone show you the photos? I've seen them, maybe you should too. It's okay to admit you don't know anyone who attended the event - well because, Sam didn't go.

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CallingChristians.com said...

Yes, Radical in your fantasy I'm a liar. Do you like it when I lie to you?

Minor correction, team 'of' Pastor Saieg, he wasn't there.

I can actually tell you what was even discussed by the persons present that night - black magic/ possession, Prophets Jeremiah and Jonah were suicidal etc - you can confirm with Luiz D.

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CallingChristians.com said...

I think you need to learn to read English - the dialogue did happen - without Saieg and Shamoun.

Where did I say otherwise? Learn to read.

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CallingChristians.com said...

On my website I corrected – I meant team ‘of’ Pastor Saieg, to which I qualified with the topics discussed that night.

I don't see why you're interpolating words into my writing - I know it's a habit from the Bible, but I think I know what I meant by my words.

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CallingChristians.com said...

Now I find this to be funny. Foregoing your inane comments - if the dialogue did happen and the dialogue was scheduled to happen between members affiliated with Saieg and the Muslim org, and you are saying it did happen, then you've practically answered your own question.

You're concerned about the truth? Says the guy who says I was sexually abused - don't confuse what your Pastor did to you, with me Jake.

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Royal Son said...

Dear Yahya,

It seems that you are quite pressed for time these days, as you have to make other videos and blog posts that are perhaps higher in priority than the review that you alluded to, which would deal with the arguments pertaining to YHWH in Deuteronomy 33:2. In light of this, would you recommend some websites or debates that I could link to and check out myself to examine the arguments?

Thank you,
Royalson.

Yahya Snow said...

Radical

The team obviously agreed to drop Shamoun and they did go ahead with the dialogue without Shamoun and Pastor G.

However it's Pastor G's team so them continuing with the dialogue without Sam does show they don't find him needed.

Radical stop being Sam's apologist.

Fact: Sam has been shown up again through his behaviour and his comments.

What in the world is he doing trying to secretly sneak into a debate. Is he that desperate and silly? He should just recognise these folk don't take him seriously and move on. He only ends up making himself look silly.

Yahya Snow said...

PS rADICAL

Your comments were deleted.

The issue of George Saieg has been resolved, that was a typo on the part of Ijaz. It's been corrected. He was not lying, the information he had was clear on this issue.

That was the bulk of your commenting - ypu attepting to label him a liar for a typo which he corrected. Ive got to go to work so will correct it on my blog tonight, inshaAllah.

The rest of your commenting was the usual stuff I delete.

Stop acting like a moron.

Anonymous said...

Paltalk reunion. Royalson is here 2. And Sam got exposed. Sam u shoot urself in the foot.

Eric said...

Radmod,

It is amazing how you still keep commenting useless comment here.

I would recommend you worship the God of Jesus and try fasting as it will help against sexual desires, inshaAllah (God willing).

CallingChristians.com said...

I really don't think he realises the extent to which the information we have goes - if only he knew ;)

Radical Moderate said...

Snowman you wrote...

"The team obviously agreed to drop Shamoun and they did go ahead with the dialogue without Shamoun and Pastor G."

My Response:

Really, so now they being who we don't know dropped both Sam and Pastor George?

I"m still waiting for the proof that "the team of Pastor Saieg did drive up to Toronto without Shamoun and did participate in the event".

So tell us Snowman since you now seem to know which of Pastor Georges's "team" members, did drive up to Toronto to participate in this event with out George and Sam Shamoun?

Should be easy to prove just give us the name who where they?

You then wrote...

"The issue of George Saieg has been resolved, that was a typo on the part of Ijaz. It's been corrected. He was not lying, the information he had was clear on this issue."

My Response:

No it hasn't been since Ijaz is still lying to you, and it wasn't a typo, and it has not been corrected. The information that Ijaz is feeding you is incorrect as let state again, NO ONE from Pastor George Debate team drove up from MI to Toronto to participate in any type of event with Muslims, following the lone Muslim apologists (Osama Abdullahs) horrendous performance.

Snowman Ijaz tell us the name or names of the team members who drove up and participated in said event.

Radical Moderate said...

Snowman please leave this comment to Erik.

Eirk you are DONE, you blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

Radical Moderate said...

Ijaz you wrote...

"I really don't think he realises the extent to which the information we have goes - if only he knew ;)"

My Response:

I don't think you have any information so prove me wrong, give us the names of those from Pastor Georges team who now as you say drove up with out Pastor George and Sam Shamoun from MI and participated in this dialog that was supposed to be a debate before the Muslims backed out?


Radical Moderate said...

Snowman

Kind of funny how this snow storm happened right around the time that Anthony Rogers completely refuted you on the number of Jihadi's that conquered Mecca and exposed you for eating, breathing and sleeping all things Sam Shamoun.

BTW we are all still waiting for your debate review and explination or condemnation of Osama's Deut 33:2 argument.

Ahhh nothing like waking up to a big cup of snow in the morning.

Eric said...

Radmod, I am sure the Lord of Jesus dont find me blaspheming Him as I worship Him and put my head on the ground the way Jesus of Nazareth did at least 34 times a day.

I am also currently fasting the way Lord of Jesus command him to fast “He ate nothing” (Luke 4:2)

So Radical aka seeker aka fatman aka rightwingfc aka thats right , God of Jesus willing I dont blaspheme Him. Praise the Lord of Jesus

Radical Moderate said...

For all the Muslims that like to think they fasted like Jesus did.

Maybe you can tell us where did Jesus put all that food that Muslims gluttonously eat between sunset and sunrise?

For all you Muslims that think they pray like Jesus prayed.

Jesus called God "The Father" and he prayed to "His Father" is that how Muslims pray?

Radical Moderate said...

Happy Feast Month Muslims

Eric said...

If one need to find who really has habit to eat gluttonously surely we can find a perfect match in those who call himself "fat man"!! right fatso aka radmod?

Eric said...

Radmod, I am pretty sure your built will no better than your idol shamoun, extra lumping fat on the belly, a sure sign of feasting crazed habit. :)

Yahya Snow said...

@Eric

Yeah I noticed one of his internet handles is 'fatman' as well. The irony.

The irony continues as the country with the biggest obesity epidemic is?

Yep, Christian countries have the biggest issue with obesity yet this RadMod is accusing Muslims of gluttony.

PS I am slim myself and have lost roughly 2kg during Ramadan thus far. Most Muslims will end up losing weight or remaining at the same weight at the end of Ramadan.

Sure there are those who do over-eat and put weight on but these people are in the minority. Remember RadMOD, over-eating is unislamic so people who do this are not following Isamic teachings in this regard.

However, it's a bit rich coming from a man with the handle 'fatman' who lives in America.

Perhaps you want to pass your opinions onto your co-religionists in America who not only have obesity issues but kind of celebrate that culture with extreme eating competitions.

Radical Moderate said...

Snowman

I am still waiting for Ijaz or yourself, since you have now willingly made yourself an accomplice to Ijaz's lies, to provide any proof of his claim that the "team" of Pastor Saieg rode up to Toronto to meet with Muslims to "dialogue" without George and Sam?

I am just looking for a single name. Just one name is all since Ijaz now seems to have changed his story twice now. First George and the team were there without Sam. Then neither George nor Sam were there but the rest of the team was. Now it is only that some from the team went to Toronto.

He first said: "Ironically enough, the team of Pastor Saieg did drive up to Toronto without Shamoun and did participate in the event,."

He then said it was a typo and changed his story to:

"On my website I corrected – I meant team ‘of’ Pastor Saieg, to which I qualified with the topics discussed that night."

He has now changed it to:

"Ironically enough, the dialogue did happen, without Shamoun, thereby implicitly accepting that he is not an individual that is needed or one which they cannot do without"

He's changed it so many times now it is hard to figure out what he actually meant.

So again, I am looking for just one name, just one name of the "Team" or the name of anyone one who drove up to Toronto?

Just because some Christians from Toronto dialogued with some Muslims in Toronto does that mean that the Christians in Toronto had anything to do with George, his "team" or Sam Shamoun on this occasion?

The truth is that no one from the US American side that was on the "team" with Sam, no one from the US American side took part in the dialogue and no one from George's ministry had anything to do with the "dialogue" with Muslims in Canada.

The truth is that after the Muslims pulled out of the "debates" with Sam Shamoun, the other debaters, Eddie Dalcour, Luis Lionheart, and Anthony Rogers, stayed on the US American side waiting for their plane rides home.

Radical Moderate said...

Snowman

So we are still waiting for your debate review, and your either condemnation of the shirk committed by Osama Abdullah or your explanation of how a verse about God could be applied to your prophet.

And putting aside yours and the blasphemers insults.

Snowman if you say you feast I'm sorry, I mean fast like Jesus did, then tell me where did Jesus pack all that food that Muslims even if you modestly eat during your feast month would of eaten between sunset and sunup?

If you pray like Jesus did do you pray to the father, do you call out abba, of father like Jesus did over and over and over again?

CallingChristians.com said...

Hi Radmod,

I don’t need to ‘provide evidence’ for the insults you directed to Br. Paul, I’ve already screenshotted and posted it on my website concerning your homosexual fantasies/ sexual abuse fantasies.

I see you’re still stuck on the Toronto issue, good to see that you acknowledge that the cancellation was due to Sam’s participation. Why does no Academic, nor theological organization (outside of Pastor Saieg’s) want to debate your sugar daddy?

CallingChristians.com said...

On another note Radmod,

I’ll be awaiting your apology for saying I was sexually abused, or insinuating something of that nature. I know I’ve upset you by exposing Sam’s deception in having to hide his identity to even try and get a debate, I know your maudlin relationship with him encourages you to defend him.

You’re not doing a good job, your partner already admitted (via the email posted), that his presence was not welcomed, Pastor Saieg just can’t get anyone to engage him. It’s actually looking quite desperate that you have to fight your partner’s battles for him, sure he’s your companion, but I think he’s old enough to stand on his own two legs/ use his testicular fortitude to defend himself…..

Now I know it’s not in your faith, morals or personal integrity to apologize for saying I was sexually abused, but that only goes to show what kind of religion you follow, and trust me, that says alot.

Eric said...

@bro Yahya,

//Yeah I noticed one of his internet handles is 'fatman' as well. The irony.//

LOL it is

//The irony continues as the country with the biggest obesity epidemic is?

Yep, Christian countries have the biggest issue with obesity yet this RadMod is accusing Muslims of gluttony.//


yeah, it is shameful how fatman aka radmod dismiss muslim obedience to gluttony when his islamophobic gang members are all a living proof of gluttonous lifestyle. LOL

//PS I am slim myself and have lost roughly 2kg during Ramadan thus far. Most Muslims will end up losing weight or remaining at the same weight at the end of Ramadan.//

I have been fasting virtually since I remember thins it is more than 35 years now..there is never an increase of weight almost all loosing weight.

The prophet of Islam set an example (adaab) of how muslims should not be eating like animal and must stop eating before their stomach are full. A healthy habit confirmed by modern nutritionist.

Ramadhan mubarak to you brother Yahya, I know this summer fasting in the UK is quite challenging..

May Allah bless you in Dunya and Akhirah for what you have been doing for the sake of daawah.

Radical Moderate said...

Ijaz you wrote...

"I don’t need to ‘provide evidence’ for the insults you directed to Br. Paul, I’ve already screenshotted and posted it on my website concerning your homosexual fantasies/ sexual abuse fantasies."

My Response:

So the evidence for the "insults" that I "directed to... Paul" Williams is on your blog in screen shots posted on your blog. Well lets take a look at what u wrote and see if that is true.

Here is the first thing you wrote in your blog article entitled "Radical Moderate’s Homosexual Fantasies".

"Br. Yahya Snow once again reproduced another one of my articles on his blog (thank you to the brother). Fortunately (?), Sam Shamoun is freaking out, him and his cheerleader, Radical Moderate did something I sort of did not expect – write a homosexual fantasy story about me.

My response:

So right from the begging you seem to think I was writing about you and not Paul Williams. You then post what I wrote and you continue on.

"Radical Moderate’s addiction to placing me in a homosexual light?"

My Response:

As you can see here you again assert that it is YOU that I am stating is a homosexual. You continue on.

"Moving on….I’d really like to see where I admitted to being homosexual,"

My response: You again assert that YOU are the subject of my blog post about someone being a homosexual. No where did you mention Paul Williams.

So Ijaz, you either slandered me on your own blog since you now say I was referring to Paul Williams and not you as a homosexual, or you slandered me on Yahya Snow and Paul Williams Blog by saying I called Paul Williams a homosexual when your article clearly states that you feel that you are the homosexual.

Either way you slandered me. So if you feel my statements where about Paul Williams then please apologies to me on your blog and correct your slanderous article and clarify that it is Paul Williams who is the homosexual I was referring too.

If you feel the statements are still about you then leave your blog article as is and apologies to me on this blog as well as Paul Williams blog and make it clear that it is you who is the homosexual that I am referring to.

CallingChristians.com said...

What a strange moral compass you possess!

So it's okay to malign Paul and claim I was sexually abused, but it's not okay that I ask you to have some dignity?

The fruits of Christianity :)

Just remember, it was *only* after your homosexual fantasy, that you claimed "Correction", and then labelled Br. Paul. Seems as if hypocrisy is your game.

CallingChristians.com said...

As for your statement that you'd apologize after I repeal the post about your homosexual fantasies/ sexual abuse desires - by claiming you *can* apologize for your slander, you've admitted you did lie.

It is clear therefore, that you know you've been dishonest, therefore you should repeal your slanderous, perverted and sexually suggestive desires and apologize for your homosexual/ sexual abuse persuasions.

CallingChristians.com said...

Rad...

"when your article clearly states that you feel that you are the homosexual"

Here you go again claiming I'm a homosexual. My article never claims this, to the contrary, it proves that *you* think that I was sexually abused and am homosexual.

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CallingChristians.com said...

Hi Rad,

Not sure if it's the Holy Spirit talking or you, but it seems your incoherence is getting worse.

1. I never said the event was cancelled - the event did happen.

2. The event happened without P. Saieg and Sham Shamoun.

3. Sham's identity as the Christian debater was hidden until the day before the event - attested to by Sam's email and the events page - so why deny it?

4. The Muslim side is and are willing to engage in debate, in fact they did and I mentioned the topics which were debated.

5. Why did Sam hide his identity to the day before the event?

6. Why did P. Saieg have to hide Sam's identity after another debate with S.L. was pulled because of Sam's presence?

7. Why can't Sam defend himself? It's funny that you defend him more than your God.

CallingChristians.com said...

Hi Rad,

"If you can do this then I certainly will apologies for saying you were "probably sexually abused" and instead say you were only physically and emotionally abused by your Muslim father."

Thank you for demonstrating what Christianity does to the normal human mind. It takes a sick and sadistic individual to trivialize what I assume is an abuse story, add sexual abuse to it and then claim it's okay.

I'm sure you'd fit in at the RC Church quite well. 'Either admit you were abused or we'll just call it sexual abuse'.

I admit, I was abused. My mind was abused by your indecency, sexual advances and persuasions. You need to stop projecting your sexual fantasies/ wishes upon me. I am not interested in you and I do not wish to discuss 'sexual abuse' stories about my allegedly naked body (lol, what the hell man!?) for your pleasure. There are many websites out there that can accommodate your fetish, I however, am disgusted by your sexual inclinations.

Christianity, my goodness - what has it done to you.

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CallingChristians.com said...

Hi Rad,

'I was un aware that Muslims got naked before breaking the fast on Ramadan. Is this the case?'

I AM pretty disturbed that you'd like to know when Muslims get naked. Given your other comments, I assume voyeurism is now part of your fetishes. I AM sorry, but you need mental help. It is not okay to ask people when they get naked.

This is becoming quite worrying, my advice would be to ease your sexual frustrations/ sexual tendencies by acknowledging what deviant feelings you have and perhaps going to one of those Christian 'cure' institutes that can help you control your tendencies.

Please limit our interaction to discourse on theology/ apologetics, your focus on sex, nudity, homosexuality and abuse is not welcomed.

CallingChristians.com said...

Hi Rad,

I don't think you understand how this works. It is slander by you - to claim that I was sexually abused/ thrown out of my house by my father. I am happy to see that you continue to have an active imagination concerning my history, but I suggest that you should apologize for creating lies to cover for the fact that you like discussing abuse stories with young men.

I am not interested in your sexual advances, or in discussing anyone's sexual history with you. Please have some decency, for goodness sake, let's pretend like this is Church where you can be pure....wait, let's pretend this isn't Church, I forgot of the gang rape homosexual stories in the Bible.

You need to control your urges. Please stop, it's quite creepy old man.

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CallingChristians.com said...

Hi Rad,

"I said numerous times now that I will apologies if you explicitly deny being sexually abused"

I think I've done that atleast several times. So where is your apology, or were you lying again?

"and explain being thrown out of the house naked by your abusive Muslim father."

I'd like an explanation as to how I was thrown out of my house? Seeing as I live in an apartment? You'd need to apologize for this slander as well.

CallingChristians.com said...

Hi Rad,

"How can you accuse me of being dishonest when I have been nothing but honest?"

How can you accuse yourself of being honest, when your only evidence of me being sexually abused, is you claiming that I was? What some strange logic you have there.

"It is you who have been dishonest, first accusing me of making sexual advances towards you, and calling you a homosexual"

Asking me if I'm naked during Ramadan and then suggesting I was sexually abused, are both sexually suggestive comments. I think I've made myself quite clear, I do not wish to discuss my nudity, or my sexual history with a Christian man who finds it interesting to discuss these things with young men over the internet. It is quite creepy.

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CallingChristians.com said...

Hi Rad,

I've checked my website and found that I have not posted a 'my life story'.

Exact words not claiming to be sexually abused? Isn't that being 'pedantic' - I see you learned a new word.

Looking forward to your apologies. Unless you're not a man of your word? Since that is the case, by Psalm 63:11, swear by Lord that you will apologize for your slander and perhaps we'd get somewhere, but please specify which Lord, since I believe you have more than one.

As for Allaah, sorry but your ignorance is quite funny, He is Al Alim, hope that puts it into perspective for you.

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CallingChristians.com said...

Hi Rad,

"I never did any of that? Show me where i ever asked if you were naked during Ramadan lol."

There is a feature in most web browsers called 'scroll', go to 16 July 2013 23:53, it might help.

"Show me where I ever said you were sexually absued I said probably do you know what probably means?"

Show you? You just wrote it yourself! How ironic! Don't you read what you write!?

CallingChristians.com said...

Hi Anonymous/ Rad/ Sham's Cheerleader,

I deleted no such exchange, I am however no longer part of that FB group, you will have to ask the Admins about this, I was booted because Muslim evangelism was not allowed.

Attributed to me by Rad himself, you can check my website to see if I've ever posted my 'life story'.

As a matter of principle, I post nothing about my personal life online - whether photos, videos, life details, job location, education etc. I value my privacy.

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CallingChristians.com said...

Hi Rad,

If you're referring to that story, I do social work, and part of that entails spreading news and inviting support for such organizations.

MWB, IADA, NOUR DV etc are some of the organizations I try to promote. I hope you are a rational human being and understand that not every link which I post - is about me. I do work with children, and I do counsel them, I do not take kindly to mockery of abuse victims.

CallingChristians.com said...

Hi Rad,

Concerning this:

"Ijaz what a strange warped mind you have. So I write..."

I think you need to re-read your comment which I referenced, for this is not the sentence which is pertinent to your claim.

Intentional ignorance? How funny!

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CallingChristians.com said...

Hi Rad,

I'm appalled that you'd be in possession of all that information and still be able to make false claims, that is pure dishonesty, a signal of your lack of decency.

"Actually what Yahya Snow reported was "I have spoken to Ijaz and he assures me that he has nothing to do with that site or story"."

This is true, I have nothing to do with the site, I neither work for, nor have worked on that site or their organization, I merely share their links, same for IADA and MWB.

Sharing a story doesn't automatically make it mines. Any official document of mines, will always be acknowledged through my website.

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CallingChristians.com said...

Hi Rad,

Of course I wrote the link, how else do you think I was able to post it?

Yes, your comments mocking abused persons were hurtful, it's called empathy.

Lastly, I asked what you thought to see what a Christian who hated Muslims would react like to a social ill, I didn't expect mockery, but that alerted me to the kind of sadism you preach and practise.

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Anonymous said...

Congratulations Yahya, your goal of operating a tabloid internet-rag has been achieved.

Your gossip columns read something like the writings of a 13 year old girl.