Wednesday, 17 July 2013
Sir Isaac Newton Rejected The Trinity (Clip from Adnan Rashid)
BBC - 'Newton: The Dark Heretic'
'Heretic' in the sense that he disbelieved in the concept of the Trinity.
Click here to watch the documentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2DWBj...
A very interesting documentary revealing a hidden and truly enlightened side to one of the greatest minds that western civilisation has known. His deep study of science led him to a firm conclusion that there is a Creator and based on his study of early Christian history, he was convinced that the concept of The Trinity was a falsification of the pure message of monotheism that Jesus preached.
Newton vehemently rejected the corruption of the Christian establishment and the innovation that is the divinity of Jesus, his belief was the revealed God is one God. During his life he was forced to keep this belief secret for fear of being labelled a heretic and after his death this information was carefully suppressed.
The documentary also highlights the point that in the absence of study of the final divine revelation no matter how great the mind the knowledge of the unseen can not be deciphered as is illustrated by the fact that Newton spirals into a hopeless search for the truth by vigorously engaging in the art of alchemy!
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http://www.islam-guide.com
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yahya, you are very ignorant, and i will tell you why. if you believe that the idea about trinity does not make sense, then i will ask you why does any idea about god make any sense at all? the idea that there is one god is just as absurd as the idea that there are a million of gods.
My point against the trinity is not that it does not make sense (it doesn't) but my argument against the trinity is that it's false.
Think about it, you have The Shema as an affirmation of the Judaic fundamental belief that God is One. They did not believe in the trinity. The Old Testament Prophets didn't teach it either.
Now did Jesus or John the Baptist teach it? No.
You know what, Paul (non authorised person) didn't teach it either.
Sir Anthony Buzzard counts 12000 accounts of 'God' in the Bible yet none of these accounts mention 'Trinity', 'triune' or 'three in one'.
The absurdity here is that so many Christians have blindly followed a doctrine that is just not Biblical.
PS For you to say the idea of one God is as absurd as the idea of there being a million gods. That is a comment I would only expect from an atheist or a polytheist. Are you either an atheist or a polytheist?
The idea of one God computes with logic - you can get to this belief with simple logic whilst the idea of a million is not something you arrive at through logic but through man-made traditions.
i am agnostic. and if you watch the video, in minute 1, he said "it does not make sense". in 1:50 he said again "this does not make sense". if you want to establish the nature of god, you need to first establish that there is a god. when he said "it is not in the scripture" maybe it is because he did not see it. his brain only perceive what his conviction has already set up for him. so, please, first show me a god, and let me see for myself, whether this god is a trinity, unity, duality, or stupidity?
to anonymous
Ask God Allmighty for His guidance with an open heart and God will guide you to The truth. He has the absolute power in His Hand and guides the one who sencirely ask Him for it. and if you want to know who your creator is, than you have to read the Noble Quran, His own words, and I'm sure you won't have any doubts left about who He is, what your purpose in life is or what you must do before you die.
may Allah help you and guide you to islam bro and save us all from Hell...
haha! i will ask god almighty to show himself first, and get me some candy, my mouth is sour.
to believe in a god, just because you are afraid of going to hell after death, is just a belief based on fear. such cowardice is worst than death. if that is your belief, then you don't deserve to live.
Oh, ok i understand. Take care man...
@anonymous (the agonsotic)
You are mischaracterising and Muslim here. We do not believe in God because we fear Hell.
Rather we see the evidences for God and thus accept there is a God.
Please have a listen to this lecture by Abdur Rahim Green:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lBzaDeSZik
Note: ~ 9 min mark for English
Thanks
From Minoria:
The Trinity is technically possible since after all there is the famous Triple Point,a scientific fact.One substance at the same T and P but 3 different states at the same time simultaneously,yet all the 3 states are of the same substance.This fact is true for H2O and other substances.
So all 3 persons of the Trinity are God because they have the nature or essence of God.God was never created and can never be destroyed.Each person of the Trinity has always existed and can never be destroyed.
Where did the Pizza ever say "I am a Pizza so eat me"
From MInoria:
ABOUT AN ARGUMENT BY PAUL WILLIAMS
I wanted to get to this for a while.He says that Jesus' death was not necessary because people's sins were being forgiven in the time of Jesus and that was before his death.
1.The Bible has several alliances:that of Noah,of Abraham,of Moses,of Jesus.
2.The Mosaic alliance was ONLY for the Jews,and it included repentance and animal sacrifice for sins.
3.God did not require non-Jews to make animal sacrifice,just repentance,that is why none was required when the non-Jews,the Assyrians,the people of Nineveh,repented in the book of Jonah.
ABOUT YOM KIPPUR
It is the holiest day in Judaism,it means "Day of Atonement" when the High Priest would make a sacrifice in the Temple for the sins of the Jewish people.
Even today there are Orthodox Jews who sacrifice a CHICKEN during Yom Kippur.
IN CATHOLICISM AND JUDAISM
In Catholicism there are venial and mortal sins,a venial sin gets you into Purgatory and a mortal one into hell.
To get rid of a MORTAL sin you obligatorily(if you can) have to confess to a priest.Now if you repent and die before you confess to a priest(but you had every intention of confessing)then God will accept your repentance.But you have to confess to a priest.
In the same way in Judaism in the time of Jesus if a Jew repented then,as a GOOD Jew,he had to make an animal sacrifice at the Temple.If he died before he could,but had every intention of doing it,God still forgave him.
ABOUT 2 EXAMPLES GIVEN BY PAUL WILLIAMS
He said the Prodigal Son story showed no Jesus dying for sins was necessary since the son repented and he was forgiven.However,as a good Jew,he would later make a sacrifice.The audience Jesus told the story to was a Jewish one.
In the second example,Williams pointed to the parable of the Pharisee and the Tax collector in the TEMPLE of Jerusalem.Yes the tax collector was forgiven,but as a good Jew,he had to later make a sacrifice.
ABOUT THE JESUS ALLIANCE
It eliminated the need for animal sacrifice for sins,one could still do it for thanksgiving but the Yom Kippur ceremony was at an end,and the conditions were now equal for Jews and non-Jews.
Does this Minoria guy ramble on aimlessly everywhere he goes? He is so annoying.
anon
Thats why I don't pay much attention to him. I find him less annoying that way
From Minoria:
Rad,you claim to be a Christian and yet insult others in an unchristian way.You don't show the fruits of the Holy Spirit.One doesn't even have to be a Christian to be educated regarding others,one can be an atheist,or Buddhist,etc.Being Christian is not just saying it but showing it.You really need to evaluate his temper,your personality.
In my personal case I was debating 2 different Muslims once,at different times,and they insulted my ideas,not me that much.Then after a few days or weeks both of them out of the blue apologized and I said it was OK.It took me completely by surprise.Now that's maturity.
From Minoria:
Also about my including information which is not about the topic of the specific article,the detail is that there is no forum like at faithfreedom or understanding-islam.com
(http://forums.understanding-islam.com/).
The part where there are debates between Christians and Muslims is:
http://forums.understanding-islam.com/forumdisplay.php?3-Interfaith-Dialogue
There you can add a new topic at will.Why add new information?
Because you can NOT assume everybody knows what you know and new information can change a person's life.
There are Muslims who read this blog and rarely or never go to anti-Islam websites,so when I write it is the only way they will get new information.That is one good reason.They most probably never heard of Yom Kippur or that even today animals(chickens) are sacrificed for the sins of humans(this by Orthodox Jews).They certainly won't get the info from Anon or Rad.
I will give examples:I once met an ex-Muslim,now Christian,girl who used to wear the hijab.I asked her is she had ever heard about the claim of Muhammad in the Bible,she said NO.Nor had she ever heard of anybody called the Mahdi.
Another time I asked the same thing(Moh. in the Bible according to Islam) to another girl,a Muslima with a veil,and she said no.And to another veiled one I asked if she had ever heard of the Mahdi,she said no.
To another,who didnt wear a veil(and so I had assumed she was Hindu)I asked the same thing(Moh. in the Bible),and she said no.But she mentioned she was an admirer of Nakir Zaik,she had heard his speeches.I said he claimed it.All I did was write down the names of various debaters who argue about Moh. in the Bible,said to go to youtube and check it out.She was certainly interested in religion,since she was arguing that those groups like Al-Qaida that kill innocent people are wrong according to Islam.I said that in their view they are not killing innocent people,they have a different definition of innocent.She said their definition was wrong,according to Islam.
The reason why I found out she was a Muslim in the first place was that we began talking about dogs,and I said that they go round and round before they go to sleep.She said she had never had a dog because Moh. was against them as pets,but that they could be used for security.Again,I have learned never to assume the other knows what one knows and that new information can alter a person's life.
In my case it was in reading,just reading,the Muslim and Christian debaters in the forum section of understanding-islam.com that I learned alot.In fact on Jan 6,2013, somebody began a thread on Muh. in the Bible and it is now 152 pages long:
http://forums.understanding-islam.com/showthread.php?11320-Prophet-Muhammad-(pbuh)-prophesized-in-the-Bible
There are Muslims in that forum who really know alot,so that is why the minimalist approach I prefer reduces all to the minimum and then they can decide if even with the most concessions(even if you dont agree with the concession but accept it for argument's sake) they can still affirm Moh. is in the Bible.
This is to anonymous
A man that is intelligent does not laugh often.It is ok to laugh once in a while but dont laugh like more than 10 times a day.
Anyways, lets go to the topic,
God the Almighty cant get to show himself, otherwise everybody will know about god and it would be too easy to go to heaven.Another things is our eyes cant stand how bright God the Almighty (Allah) is so we can only see him in heaven as the Quran says that our eyes will be strong enough see him as God gave us perfect eyes.God cant just give you food and tell him to shoe himself.He can give signs but not too directly as god wants to test you.
Another thing is that why we preach is that because we want to help people go to heaven and believe the righteous and true god (Allah).We fats for a lot of reasons.We break the fast meaning we do eat so we wont die.Its a test and look at poor people out there, we need to experience only until the sun goes down for a month.Cmon if god tells you to do that then do it.
Im not a terrorist nor an extremist, but I am a muslim.If you have any questions just comment to me.Peace.Remember some muslims are good and some christians are good.
Dont judge people please..
I want to make a difference out there so Peace..
Replying to all and especially to anonymous who commented this:
'haha! i will ask god almighty to show himself first, and get me
some candy, my mouth'
Im trying to help you not lead you to hell.Devils lead you to hell bye!!(not doing this for money)
This is to anonymous
A man that is intelligent does not laugh often.It is ok to laugh once in a while but dont laugh like more than 10 times a day.
Anyways, lets go to the topic,
God the Almighty cant get to show himself, otherwise everybody will know about god and it would be too easy to go to heaven.Another things is our eyes cant stand how bright God the Almighty (Allah) is so we can only see him in heaven as the Quran says that our eyes will be strong enough see him as God gave us perfect eyes.God cant just give you food and tell him to shoe himself.He can give signs but not too directly as god wants to test you.
Another thing is that why we preach is that because we want to help people go to heaven and believe the righteous and true god (Allah).We fats for a lot of reasons.We break the fast meaning we do eat so we wont die.Its a test and look at poor people out there, we need to experience only until the sun goes down for a month.Cmon if god tells you to do that then do it.
Im not a terrorist nor an extremist, but I am a muslim.If you have any questions just comment to me.Peace.Remember some muslims are good and some christians are good.
Dont judge people please..
I want to make a difference out there so Peace..
Replying to all and especially to anonymous who commented this:
'haha! i will ask god almighty to show himself first, and get me
some candy, my mouth'
Im trying to help you not lead you to hell.Devils lead you to hell bye!!(not doing this for money)
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