tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post6167652671392531098..comments2023-11-09T05:50:27.936-08:00Comments on The Facts About Islam: For Walid Shoebat and Ergun Caner Supporters...Yahya Snowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18373097645466995642noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-56095997724012095142014-05-17T04:17:42.529-07:002014-05-17T04:17:42.529-07:00why do ppl giv them 2 money???????????????????????...why do ppl giv them 2 money??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-47245842656893286762014-05-16T22:51:34.616-07:002014-05-16T22:51:34.616-07:00From Minoria:
Hello:
Regarding the Biblical vers...From Minoria:<br /><br />Hello:<br /><br />Regarding the Biblical verses about God deceiving evildoers:<br /><br />1.There are verses that,a direct reading,say it is God himself.(2 Thessalonians 2:9-12)( Ezekiel 14:1-10)<br /><br />2.Others says it is indirect,that God gives permission to evil spirits,to deceive the evildoers.(1 Kings 22:19-28).And also:<br /><br />2 Chronicles 18:20-22:<br /><br />"Then a spirit came forward and stood before the LORD and said, 'I will entice him.' And the LORD said to him, 'How?' 21"He said, 'I will go and be a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.' Then He said, 'You are to entice him and prevail also. Go and do so.' 22"Now therefore, behold, the <b>LORD has put a deceiving spirit in the mouth of these your prophets</b>, for the LORD has proclaimed disaster against you."<br /><br />Shamoun wrote an article about it in answering-islam called "Does Yahweh really deceive?".<br /><br />A SITUATION THAT IS ILLOGICAL<br /><br />Saul was the first Jewish king and he fell out of favor with God and God makes things worse for him by sending an evil spirit to make him more evil,in 1 Samuel 16:14-15:<br /><br />" Now the Spirit of the Lord had left Saul, and an <b>evil spirit sent from the Lord</b> began to torment him, 15 so Saul’s servants said to him, “You see that an evil spirit from God is tormenting you."<br /><br />You might say the passage does not say that.It doesn't then but later in 1 Samuel 19:6-15 the evil spirit sent by God makes Saul try to kill David.God made a bad situation worse,no logic in that:<br /><br />"Saul listened to Jonathan and then made this promise: “As surely as the Lord lives, David won’t be put to death.”<br /><br />7 So Jonathan called to David and told him everything that had been said. He brought David to Saul, and David was with Saul as before.<br /><br />8 When war broke out again, David went out to fight the Philistines. He defeated them, and they ran away from him.<br /><br />9 But <b>once again an evil spirit from the Lord rushed upon Saul as he was sitting in his house with his spear in his hand. David was playing the harp. 10 Saul tried to pin David to the wall with his spear,</b> but David jumped out of the way. So Saul’s spear went into the wall, and David ran away that night.<br /><br />11 Saul <b>sent messengers to David’s house to watch it and to kill him in the morning.</b> But Michal, David’s wife, warned him, saying, “Tonight you must run for your life. If you don’t, you will be dead in the morning.” 12 So she let David down out of a window, and he ran away and escaped. 13 Then Michal took an idol, laid it on the bed, covered it with clothes, and put goats’ hair at its head.<br /><br />14 Saul sent messengers to take David prisoner, but Michal said, “He is sick.”<br /><br />15 <b>Saul sent them back to see David, saying, “Bring him to me on his bed so I can kill him.”"</b><br /><br />As you can see it is the evil spirit sent by God that made a bad situation worse.<br /><br />THE RELATION WITH HELL<br /><br />1.One could argue it is all for the better,in a mysterious way,but that doesn't convince one.<br /><br />2.Because if one believes in a hell(whether with a literal fire or not)then God making a bad situation worse by allowing evil spirits to persuade you to be even more evil has no logic and rationality.<br /><br />3.Because it would mean an increase in the sufferings of people in hell due to God having sent/allowed evil spirits to make them do more evil.The only logic in such actions one can see is if their is no hell.The doctrine of annihilation or conditional immortality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com