tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post8760315063973773423..comments2023-11-09T05:50:27.936-08:00Comments on The Facts About Islam: The Finest Christian Apologist Questioned...Yahya Snowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18373097645466995642noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-44084416404792846322011-08-13T14:59:06.550-07:002011-08-13T14:59:06.550-07:00Salam to all my brothers and sisters in Islam, I w...Salam to all my brothers and sisters in Islam, I would just like to remind you that in such interfaith debate, we must make sure that what we are debating is for the sake of Allah swt and not our own egos in defending our beliefs. I take great interest in interfaith debate like this and would discuss such things with the Imam of my mosque and my family. My Imam reminded me to be careful for what cause I argue for and I would like to pass on the reminder to you as well for I have seen some comments here that may be ego-based on Muslims' part.Taimurnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-67499717164546652702011-05-25T11:50:46.505-07:002011-05-25T11:50:46.505-07:00There is more.I had once argued Jesus died in 30 A...There is more.I had once argued Jesus died in 30 AD and that the number 40 repeats itself like 20 times in the Bible.There is even a generation of 40 years,the "Biblical generation".<br /><br />I said Jesus predicted the destruction of the Temple in 30 AD(the year of his death)and it happened one Biblical generation later in 70 AD.I had said scholars are divided between 2 dates for Jesus death:30 AD and 33 AD.<br /><br />MOST SAY IT IS 30 AD<br /><br />GARY HABERMAS,a serious scholar,in his studies,has found out most shcolars accept the 30 AD date,he himself does do.It appears in a DISCUSSION(not a debate),a <b>friendly laid-back real conversation</b> between<br />MICHAEL LICONA and ATHEIST RICHARD CARRIER on "Did Jesus rise from the Dead?"It began as a formal debate-exposition of 20 min for each but the following discussion period was the best,relaxed,with real interaction:<br /><br />http://youtu.be/_1_GYR3xjPQ<br /><br />The debate is fascinating and both scholars,if I remember correctly, said they really liked the discussion,they said it spontaneously during the talk.<br /><br />SO?<br /><br />The 30 AD date is important since it would be,for some,proof Jesus was a prophet by having the destruction of the Temple occur exactly 40 years later,to coincide with the midrash repetition of the number 40,<br /><br />The year 30 also reconciles the passover dates since in that year the ESSENE PASSOVER and the PHARISEE Passover were 1 day apart.There was an ESSENE QUARTER in Jerusalem,where they would have celebrated it.JOHN said the last supper was one day before Passover(before the Pharisee one),the others say it was on the day of passover(it would be the Essene Passover).<br /><br />It would answer another so-called problem,that the Pharisees and Saduccees would never have a trial of Jesus during the Passover festival,it was illegal,but what if the trial was the DAY BEFORE?Then it was ok for them.minoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08030653596590889158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-77993421862400746872011-05-25T11:30:17.900-07:002011-05-25T11:30:17.900-07:00Hello anonymous,
I saw the video and the person sa...Hello anonymous,<br />I saw the video and the person said 3 Muslims were killed in 17th century UK for not converting to Christianity.One would need a real reference to what law it was,assuming the speaker was accurate.<br />Otherwise the argument is incomplete.<br /><br />He didnt even say the exact year.<br /><br />CATHOLICISM PROHIBITED IN THE UK<br /><br />The reason was basically political since the Pope and his Catholic allies were trying and had tried to conquer England and would have greatly persecuted the protestants,the majority of the population.<br /><br />Under MARY TUDOR many Protestants had been burned at the stake for being Protestant.Also remember the Invicible Armada sent by Spain with 30,000 soldiers later on and they would have wiped out Protestants in England.The Queen of England Elizabeth,a Protestant, had been declared to be a usurper,not the real queen, by the Pope.<br /><br />A <b>Catholic had to put loyalty to the Pope,even his political decisions,above loyalty to a heretic government.</b><br /><br />REGARDING THE JEWS<br /><br />The Jews were expelled from England in 1290.They were allowed to return under the Republic in the reign of Cromwell.There was no law against Judaism since the members posed no political threat.<br /><br />But as for what the law was for non-Catholic and non-Jews if there was one PROHIBITING ISLAM at all it would have been on purely political-military grounds,since the Ottoman Muslims were always trying to conquer Europe.<br /><br />In 1683 an army of 90,000 Muslims almost conquered Vienna,that was also in the 17th century and though defeated they took 80,000 Christian girls and women with them as slaves,for the harem.minoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08030653596590889158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-88752266986969065132011-05-24T16:43:13.653-07:002011-05-24T16:43:13.653-07:00To Anthony Rogers:
I you want real questions, vis...To Anthony Rogers:<br /><br />I you want real questions, visit my blog<br />http://1moremuslim.blogspot.com/1MoreMuslimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04831333084902899060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-4178937308182337942011-05-24T16:24:53.272-07:002011-05-24T16:24:53.272-07:00now what about you? do you support those hating ch...now what about you? do you support those hating christians?Alihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03587980913713321044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-16127650475508264662011-05-24T16:24:17.366-07:002011-05-24T16:24:17.366-07:00LOL anonymous. i'm not your mommy i can't ...LOL anonymous. i'm not your mommy i can't hold your hand forever<br /><br />yes genocide is wrong to whichever group. happy?Alihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03587980913713321044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-64474068631447098382011-05-24T16:01:45.786-07:002011-05-24T16:01:45.786-07:00@Ali
Thanks for not answering my question. I will...@Ali<br /><br />Thanks for not answering my question. I will ask it again.<br /><br />Is Genocide against any culture, tribe, creed, ethnic group, or religious group in any time of history WRONG? Or is it only wrong when it pertains to Muslims as you seem to indicate in your non answer.<br /><br /><br />"I'm SPECIFICALLY talking about THESE people here in the WEST. I'm not talking about any other culture or religion. I'm talking about Islam in the West."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-50081211568867911922011-05-24T15:26:36.092-07:002011-05-24T15:26:36.092-07:00//So only Genocide against Muslims is wrong? Or is...//So only Genocide against Muslims is wrong? Or is Genocide against any culture, tribe, creed, ethnic group, or religious group in any time of history WRONG?//<br /><br />I've noticed christians often misinterpret the Quran, but also just regular sentences as well. anonymous let me take your hand and point out what i'm saying.<br />there's people who support (i.e christians) hate crimes and genocides of muslims. theres people (i.e christians and christians who support that crazy rabbi) who intentionally spread hate and lies about muslims and islam. and they do this for cash. theres 7 million muslims in north america who get scapegoated by these people. we're looked down upon. we get denied jobs and service because of our names or our dress. these people (i.e christians) are flat out disgusting. no evidence of humanity in them. I'm SPECIFICALLY talking about THESE people here in the WEST. I'm not talking about any other culture or religion. I'm talking about Islam in the West.<br /><br />do you understand? can i let go of your hand now?<br /><br />24 May 2011 15:24Alihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03587980913713321044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-71680059592916607712011-05-24T15:24:17.144-07:002011-05-24T15:24:17.144-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Alihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03587980913713321044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-26348082261093402062011-05-24T07:35:14.006-07:002011-05-24T07:35:14.006-07:00@Ali
You said...
"how is it wrong if i calle...@Ali<br /><br />You said...<br />"how is it wrong if i called people who promote hatred and genocide of muslims 'dirty' and 'idiots'?"<br /><br />So only Genocide against Muslims is wrong? Or is Genocide against any culture, tribe, creed, ethnic group, or religious group in any time of history WRONG?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-81154369391417097072011-05-24T01:30:22.414-07:002011-05-24T01:30:22.414-07:00To minoria.
You said - "Never in any European...To minoria.<br />You said - "Never in any European country in the Middle Ages or later was there such a law,there was "convert or be exiled" but not convert or die,"<br /><br />Check video http://www.youtube.com/user/YahyaSnow#p/u/6/tJJFqG2Q-ZY on 2:43 and tell me what did you hear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-88684925499653890242011-05-23T22:41:12.201-07:002011-05-23T22:41:12.201-07:00//and how is that wrong?
LOL im having a blast. a...//and how is that wrong?<br /><br />LOL im having a blast. and how are they dirty? lol//<br /><br />how is it wrong if i called people who promote hatred and genocide of muslims 'dirty' and 'idiots'?Alihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03587980913713321044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-63750675047383040542011-05-23T22:38:29.674-07:002011-05-23T22:38:29.674-07:00@ anonymous
what i said can be found in its EXACT...@ anonymous<br /><br />what i said can be found in its EXACT words in JihadWatch and answering muslims by christians. so mock my words if you will, you're only ranting on your own people as well.Alihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03587980913713321044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-65742091919336960432011-05-23T22:00:32.405-07:002011-05-23T22:00:32.405-07:00and how is that wrong?
LOL im having a blast. and...<i>and how is that wrong?</i><br /><br />LOL im having a blast. and how are they dirty? lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-25482595431712064472011-05-23T21:50:25.256-07:002011-05-23T21:50:25.256-07:00only the dirty idiots come up with that crap
i tr...<i>only the dirty idiots come up with that crap</i><br /><br />i truly cherish the glimpses i get into the muslim mind from this site.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-87394642864494811382011-05-23T21:22:25.831-07:002011-05-23T21:22:25.831-07:00Anthony,
....I wrote a post yesterday but it seem...Anthony,<br /><br />....I wrote a post yesterday but it seems it didn't go through. An issue with my browser I suppose. Well I'll write you another day.Antiislamophobehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10986916788094425584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-33637177393256451312011-05-23T20:29:52.020-07:002011-05-23T20:29:52.020-07:00//This Christian has all confidence in the Holy Sp...//This Christian has all confidence in the Holy Spirit. That's why I will debate Yahya any day of the week. lol//<br /><br />I'd do the same to david wood. except he'll just block me once he realizes his arguments have correctionsAlihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03587980913713321044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-85544885049799491142011-05-23T19:18:20.445-07:002011-05-23T19:18:20.445-07:00He knows where he heard it. He is just playing coy...He knows where he heard it. He is just playing coy. He is embarrassed to admit where he heard it since he has been running from that issue as well.Anthony Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04311194078700307794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-22796580481982081442011-05-23T19:15:07.849-07:002011-05-23T19:15:07.849-07:00Brother Snow
Sam the Sham said that. That is to g...Brother Snow<br /><br />Sam the Sham said that. That is to good, I thought that sham was in his mind the finest Christian apologist.<br /><br />Do you remember where you heard it? Is it on youtube?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-75444711696890769752011-05-23T16:15:20.322-07:002011-05-23T16:15:20.322-07:00Ali said to anonymous: "no its just christian...Ali said to anonymous: "no its just christians who lose confidence in the holy spirit."<br /><br />This Christian has all confidence in the Holy Spirit. That's why I will debate Yahya any day of the week. lolAnthony Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04311194078700307794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-37688266599959976422011-05-23T16:14:27.348-07:002011-05-23T16:14:27.348-07:00Ali said: "obviously anthony's anger has ...Ali said: "obviously anthony's anger has caused him to skip half of of my posts."<br /><br />Ali said: "its obvious when christians get angry. start calling God 'false',..."<br /><br />I guess that means Ali must be angry. After all, he also said:<br /><br />"...his god is already dead and our true God repeatedly claims nothing can take over him. christianity=false apostle, false scriptures and false cross"<br /><br />Ali asked: "how is that wrong?"<br /><br />You have to ask Islamaphobe/antiislamaphobe that question. It is his inconsistent complaint.Anthony Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04311194078700307794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-81078785353855897852011-05-23T16:13:11.759-07:002011-05-23T16:13:11.759-07:00@ anonymous
no its just christians who lose confi...@ anonymous<br /><br />no its just christians who lose confidence in the holy spirit.Alihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03587980913713321044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-56119404365732753232011-05-23T16:10:46.637-07:002011-05-23T16:10:46.637-07:00//As if to expose the obvious lies and hypocrisy i...//As if to expose the obvious lies and hypocrisy involved here, Ali the Muslim said:<br /><br />"shame shame, only the dirty idiots come up with that crap. no sane person takes these goons seriously."//<br /><br />obviously anthony's anger has caused him to skip half of of my posts. i was referring to that rabbi who was called an 'exper' by rob spencer. i was referring to people who make cash in promoting hate crimes against muslims. and how is that wrong?Alihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03587980913713321044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-73486923981322504012011-05-23T15:07:07.914-07:002011-05-23T15:07:07.914-07:00REGARDING EHRMAN
Read the great review of the ina...REGARDING EHRMAN<br /><br />Read the great review of the inaccuracies,fundemental ones for his latest book's thesis,in Ehrman's book:"Forged:Writing in the name of God"<br /><br />It is by Michael Licona,in his website:<br />http://www.risenjesus.com/<br /><br />Click on the option ARTICLES,it is the first one.A fine article that impressed me.<br /><br />BASIC IDEAS<br /><br />1.Ehrman says approximately 70 percent of the New Testament writings were not written by those to whom they are attributed.<br /><br />2.Citation from the article:<br /><br /><br />"For example, in his discussion pertaining to the authorship of Ephesians, Ehrman contends that Paul speaks of the resurrection of believers as a future event and provides Romans 6:1-4 and 1 Corinthians 15 in support (that Paul wrote these letters is undisputed). He then states that Ephesians teaches that the resurrection of believers has already occurred (2:5-6) and adds "[t]his is precisely the view that Paul argued against in his letters to the Corinthians" (111)!<br /><br />Ehrman is correct that Paul thought of the resurrection of believers as a very real and physical event that would take place when Jesus returns.[7] Romans 8:11 and 23 teach this even more clearly than the reference cited in Romans by Ehrman. He appears unaware, however, that Paul also spoke of the resurrection of believers in a symbolic sense. Consider Romans 6:13, the same chapter in the same letter Ehrman cites for Paul's teaching that the resurrection of believers is a future event:<br /><br />and do not go on presenting the members of your body to sin as instruments of unrighteousness; but present yourselves to God as those alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God.[8]<br /><br />Paul's teaching concerning the resurrection of believers in Romans is completely compatible with what we find in Ephesians and Colossians. Many of the teachings in the disputed letters of Paul that Ehrman regards as contradictory to the teachings in his undisputed letters are solved just as easily with a careful look at the texts in question. Unfortunately, because many of Ehrman's readers will go no further than reading Forged, they will fall prey to some very poor arguments."<br /><br />Citation 2:<br /><br />"The fifth and final attempt cites the involvement of secretaries in the writing of letters. Most, though not all, of the arguments against traditional authorship fall into two categories: style and content. If an author employed the use of a secretary to write what he dictated as well as provide varying degrees of editing, this would explain quite well why some of the questionable letters in the New Testament have vocabulary, grammar, some content and an overall writing style that differs, even significantly, from the undisputed letters. Ehrman recognizes this and writes, "Virtually all of the problems with what I've been calling forgeries can be solved if secretaries were heavily involved in the composition of the early Christian writings" (134). But he argues that, although it's certain that Paul often used a secretary, the secretary only took Paul's dictation. This is an Achilles heel in Ehrman's case that we will discuss at length below."minoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08030653596590889158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-82144869451056950262011-05-23T14:55:39.929-07:002011-05-23T14:55:39.929-07:00by "god cannot guarantee them success", ...by "god cannot guarantee them success", i meant of course THEIR god, Allah.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com