tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post1840612904722827143..comments2023-11-09T05:50:27.936-08:00Comments on The Facts About Islam: What Every Christian Needs to Know about the Qur'an – by James WhiteYahya Snowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18373097645466995642noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-81943548619406305262011-03-04T18:11:35.488-08:002011-03-04T18:11:35.488-08:00Hmm...What if? An Update on the Disappearance of C...Hmm...What if? An Update on the Disappearance of Caner's Endorsement of Siljander's Book<br />03/04/2011 - James White<br /><br />I was thinking after posting the information about Caner's endorsement disappearing from the Siljander website...what if this had nothing to do with Caner? What if someone contacted Mark Siljander, provided him with the mountain of documentation proving that everything Cal Thomas said about Caner, as recorded in the book, is bogus (born and raised in Turkey, came here to convert us, blah blah blah), and he realized he did not need that kind of publicity? I jumped to the conclusion that the "endorsement pull" came from Caner's side (given that it would be downright simplistic to post videos of Caner blasting everything Siljander says about Islam, jihad, etc. In fact, let's do that right now:<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Notice the string of falsehoods: madrassas in Istanbul and Cairo (he didn't mention Beirut in this one), coming here when he was 14 (he was 2.5 and he knew it when he said it), and the lie that he knew nothing about America (tough to back that one up when you grow up in Ohio)---of course, we could give him a pass on saying he knew nothing about America when he actually did come here. Most 2.5 year olds are not overly culturally literate. But note that his view of jihad is the exact view of jihad Siljander attacks and decries and identifies as the main part of the problem in his book!). But what if the pull came from Siljander's side? An interesting possibility.<br /><br />In any case, I would like to ask either Mark Siljander or Ergun Caner to explain the disappearance of the endorsementAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-80509214700930438332010-12-31T11:32:48.643-08:002010-12-31T11:32:48.643-08:001moremuslim.
Brother, thanks alot. I've never...1moremuslim.<br /><br />Brother, thanks alot. I've never seen him on the same showqwith either Shoebat/Saleem.<br /><br />This is interesting. InshaAllah I will make an addition to this post so poeple are aware that White is not colleagues with Shoebat and Saleem in a conventionally understood way. White simply appears on the same missionary channel.Yahya Snowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18373097645466995642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-51448159008970001422010-12-30T11:45:14.777-08:002010-12-30T11:45:14.777-08:00Yahya,
James White admitted he declined an invitat...Yahya,<br />James White admitted he declined an invitation from ABN to share the stage with Walid Sheobat and Kamal Saleem on a ABN show in December 2010.1MoreMuslimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04831333084902899060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-89468460561065421202010-12-30T07:08:37.043-08:002010-12-30T07:08:37.043-08:00this james guy could not even defend bible from na...this james guy could not even defend bible from nadir ahmed. james got pwnd by sami zaatari and shadid lewes chewed this dude up 2.<br />he lost his debates against br shabir and was even owned badly after one of them. abdullah andalasi is 2 good for him. why hes now writing books at home. he got owned nadir ahmed is calling him again<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6qk83XTLVkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-3955832383759874422010-12-29T17:47:37.102-08:002010-12-29T17:47:37.102-08:00'..We do not have fund raisers. We do not send...'..We do not have fund raisers. We do not send out fund raising letters, we don't have folks cold-calling contributors, and we rarely mention finances on The Dividing Line..'<br /><br />Translated : We are not ashamed to ask you for your $$. Buy this book , I will be laughing all the way to the bank.<br /><br />In the end , its all about $$ .... dR White .... pls take note.sam1528https://www.blogger.com/profile/01382805827344948691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-57852273259578399122010-12-29T16:45:37.982-08:002010-12-29T16:45:37.982-08:00I wrote a review of the debate. I thought it might...I wrote a review of the debate. I thought it might be nice for my readers. White had enough on his hands just in debating Ehrman. But isn't it nice that he also had time to spend two blogs and one internet webcast (his Dividing Line program) going after me, judging my motives and attacking my character? He called me a "bigot" and a "liar." Not once does he deal with my criticisms of him in the debate. That was the best he could do, go after me. And he actually does understand that this strategy will be good enough with the people who listen to him. It works. What does that say about them? They like that about him, that he goes immediately for motives ("bigot") and character ("liar"). Just the fact that he has so much spin control in play to spend this kind of time on my blog review tells you a little about his state of mind. I do not know what his followers see in him to exhibit so much allegiance.<br /><br />He comes across like a snake oil salesman, a wandering minstrel. He's got his truck and products, just a little more hi-tech. He possesses the necessary hubris to shamelessly self-promote, it seems, without any compunction. Except he deals with Scripture and against deniers of the faith. It's an activity that we can applaud, but by a person who behaves with a smugness strangely contradictory to the task.<br /><br />http://kentbrandenburg.blogspot.com/2009/02/liar-liarjames-white-and-aom.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-57291023768546620612010-12-29T16:28:55.485-08:002010-12-29T16:28:55.485-08:00With the name of Allah, Peace be unto those who fo...With the name of Allah, Peace be unto those who follow the guidance from their Lord.<br /><br />What can I add? Yahya, Ibn and 1MoreMuslim have said it all!<br /><br />Hahahaha! I have a theme song for James White....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLXQltR7vUQ "A Few Dollars More"...... Notice in his last dividing line he doesn't want to debate Bryson in his Church because there is not enough room =not enough people to charge $$$$$$ ???thegrandverbalizer19https://www.blogger.com/profile/15600393095781979367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-4738013470492879612010-12-29T16:07:12.093-08:002010-12-29T16:07:12.093-08:00All what we hope is that James White would check h...All what we hope is that James White would check his facts before copy and paste from Sam Shamoun's Articles.1MoreMuslimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04831333084902899060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-91682871379022125082010-12-29T13:35:39.355-08:002010-12-29T13:35:39.355-08:00James White: I will seek to present the issues pla...James White: I will seek to present the issues plainly and clearly and understandably, all the while doing so in such a way as to EDUCATE AND TRAIN THE BELIEVER, INCREASING THEIR CONFIDENCE SO AS TO LEAD TO A GROWTH IN EVANGELISM AND OUTREACH.<br /><br />In other words, James White's book is not so much about scholarship as it is about missionary propaganda. Clearly biased.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07459995709666677792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-64473834650204295442010-12-29T13:27:16.251-08:002010-12-29T13:27:16.251-08:00Quotes taken from James White's chunk of text:...Quotes taken from James White's chunk of text:<br /><br />It's been quite a while since I went into "book mode," but 2011 will take me back to the keyboard for, Lord willing, two books. One is still under development (pray that the co-author I have contacted will join me in the project!) but the other is all set to begin work: What Every Christian Needs to Know about the Qur'an will be my contribution to the effort to educate, motivate, and edify the Body of Christ in the area of Islamic evangelism and apologetics. It will not simply be a review of the Qur'an per se, but I will use key texts from the Qur'an (having provided a hopefully helpful introduction and outline) as the framework upon which to build a presentation of the key issues (not all possible issues, not even the most "exciting" issues---but the issues that actually matter eternally) that separate Christianity and Islam and give rise to the primary areas of discussion when Christians and Muslims talk. As I have in my previous books, I will seek to present the issues plainly and clearly and understandably, all the while doing so in such a way as to educate and train the believer, increasing their confidence so as to lead to a growth in evangelism and outreach. Much of the fear that exists in the hearts and minds of Christians about speaking to that Muslim about the faith arises from ignorance fueled by a constant focus in the media upon the most radicalized forms of Islam. My prayer is that the believers who read this book will be emboldened to proclaim the Lordship of Christ to every Muslim.<br /><br />Here's How You Can Help<br />Human nature being what it is, there is a downside to my going into "book mode." It's pretty simple: we are a small ministry. We do not have fund raisers. We do not send out fund raising letters, we don't have folks cold-calling contributors, and we rarely mention finances on The Dividing Line. But we are supported by regular folks who see the need for this work, and every once in a while we need to provide a reminder of this (as we constantly and thankfully have new folks discovering our work). When I am traveling and doing debates on a wide range of topics, this obviously helps the ministry in the sense of exposure and hence support. But when I am sitting in my office reading books, making notes, and writing chapters of a book that won't see the light of day for months into the future---well, let's face it, human nature is human nature, and we all know the saying, "What have you done for me lately?" So the biggest thing anyone can do to assist in "book writing in 2011" would be to let us know you will stand with us with regular support to keep the ministry moving forward, the DL airing regularly, etc. <br /><br />Next, I use the Ministry Resource List to obtain the materials I need for these projects, and I have put a number of such resources on that list just recently, one of which is mighty expensive, but it would be incredibly helpful. The handful of folks who have kept an eye on that list over the past two years and have helped me out by providing those tangible resources have no idea how encouraging that is, and even more so, how necessary. I know a number of folks have commented on how they enjoy knowing that a particular book or electronic item they purchased was going to be used in a particular project, in preparation for a particular debate, etc. I am just thankful for the assistance and fellowship!Yahya Snowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18373097645466995642noreply@blogger.com