tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post2368614714305868230..comments2023-11-09T05:50:27.936-08:00Comments on The Facts About Islam: Sam Shamoun Asked to Stand Down: An Open Letter to AnsweringIslam by Yahya SnowYahya Snowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18373097645466995642noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-52444229275033763182010-10-25T13:33:39.397-07:002010-10-25T13:33:39.397-07:00I know an easy way to get Shamoun off Answering-Is...I know an easy way to get Shamoun off Answering-Islam. Quote this verse:<br /><br />Luke 6:30:<br />"Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back."<br /><br />Then, ask Shamoun to give you his answeringislam domains and expect him not to demand it back. Then, we shall see whether Sam Shamoun has the courage to follow his own so called God.pamuk7http://youtube.com/pamuk7noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-57586226102344957292010-05-09T20:28:19.619-07:002010-05-09T20:28:19.619-07:00"Recently, one of my colleagues alerted me to...<i>"Recently, one of my colleagues alerted me to some harrassment and insults he had received at the hands of Sam Shamoun."</i><br /><br />Can you be more specific and provide <b>evidence</b> for your claim?<br /><br />Without specific evidence and proof all you have is hearsay and accusation. Writing an "open letter" and asking someone to retire from apologetics based on hearsay and accusation should in no way be taken seriously by anyone.Sepher Shalomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07129490021782474936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-20225000522886254092010-05-02T16:12:30.412-07:002010-05-02T16:12:30.412-07:00Hello Woman of Truth:
I have read quite a bit of S...Hello Woman of Truth:<br />I have read quite a bit of Sam Shamoun's work.I think you condemn that he calls certain Muslim writers (Osama Abdullah,Sami Zaatari,etc)names like deceitful,pathetic,etc.<br />The reason is because according to his experience with them they have been given good answers to some of their objections yet refuse to recognize it.So when you see that happening over the years by the same person,you lose some esteem of the man.<br /><br />EXAMPLE<br />Jesus cursed a FIG tree because he was hungry,found NOTHING there,BUT it was NOT the time for FIGS(that was,I think 4-5 weeks later).<br /><br />SHABIR ALLY often says "it shows Jesus did not know everything".He was told by Shamoun in a debate(and it is true)that in PALESTINE several weeks BEFORE the figs come out there are EDIBLE knobs given called TAQSH.If no TAQSH appear it means there will be NO figs that year,a barren tree.So Jesus knew that there should have been things to eat.<br /><br />If year after year after year Shabir would continue to use that argument in boks and debates against Jesus,then,yes,I would say I can say he is not interested in real information,real learning,even HIDING info from his audience for not very noble reasons.minoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08030653596590889158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-28657130009337738422010-05-02T07:29:58.502-07:002010-05-02T07:29:58.502-07:00Woman,
What do you mean by "Look at his quot...Woman,<br /><br />What do you mean by "Look at his quote from Anthony"? Where does Sam quote me and what is it about my quote that justifies calling him (or me) a charlatan? Or are you referring to the message I left here for Sam? If so, how does that demonstrate what you are saying. If you cannot demonstrate that what you are saying is true, then your words amount to slander. Hopefully you can clear this up for me.Anthony Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04311194078700307794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-56637918890914137252010-05-01T22:14:27.654-07:002010-05-01T22:14:27.654-07:00Hi Minoria,
I don't know what Deedat or Ally ...Hi Minoria,<br /><br />I don't know what Deedat or Ally have to do with this, but both present good material. There may be errors but that also goes for Christians who challenge Islam.<br />I don't agree with everything an Islamic apologetic says, and I'm sure the same goes for you.<br /><br />What I meant by the slandering and insulting was the haters on Jihadwatch; including all of it's affiliates, Atlas shrugs, and even on Answering Muslims. I mean the cursing and deliberate misinformation? Is that really needed?<br /><br />You can notice on several evangelical sites, they always have sections on Islam, quite often the well refuted over-used claims. Can you call these people charlatans? <br /><br />I've seen some of Sam Shamoun's work. Not very impressive. Look at his quote from Anthony. Should we label him a charlatan?<br />Apologetics is about finding common ground, enlightening others and viewing different perspectives. Unfortunately people go to farWomanForTruth101https://www.blogger.com/profile/00445117235031141812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-48061320348522569692010-04-29T21:00:22.095-07:002010-04-29T21:00:22.095-07:00Hello Woman for Truth:
I can only state from my re...Hello Woman for Truth:<br />I can only state from my research.In the case of DEEDAT and SHABIR ALLY to say that they are not scholars is correct.<br />Anybody can make a technical mistake,I have many times.But Deedat and Shabir Ally's arguments are intellectually flawed and they knew it 100%.They intentionally misrepresented things about NT scholarship that no ATHEIST would do(with the exceptin of DAN BARKER).<br /><br />WHY?<br />Because they are NOT HOLY MEN.They are charlatans.It is the same for ZAKIR NAIK.When I say it I am not "insulting,slandering"them.It is based on fact,I have seen how they act in a dishonest way intellectualy.EVEN IF I were a non-Christian like a few years ago I woudld still come to the same conclusion.minoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08030653596590889158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-88317339806060816052010-04-28T20:40:43.297-07:002010-04-28T20:40:43.297-07:00Brother Sam asked me to post the following message...Brother Sam asked me to post the following message for him:<br /><br />Hahahaha! Is this all you can do? Try to get Christians to turn against me instead of facing me in a debate so I can expose you before the world of Christian-Muslim apologetics much like Anthony Rogers has been doing? Man, I knew that you were a charlatan masquerading as an intellectual but this desperate attempt of silencing me takes the cake. You are worse than Nadir and Osama Abdallah combined. Thanks for proving to the world that you are afraid to face people like Anthony Rogers and myself after the shalacking that Anthony gave you for producing such subpar materials.Anthony Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04311194078700307794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-13517744283269890582010-04-27T20:15:15.439-07:002010-04-27T20:15:15.439-07:00Yahya, care to enlighten me on where Sam "int...Yahya, care to enlighten me on where Sam "interpolated" anything into the Bible? Please don't say he misquoted the Bible on the issue of the Angel of the Lord, which I have already corrected you on (and will have even more to say about in the future).Anthony Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04311194078700307794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-31105638862426985132010-04-27T20:02:56.098-07:002010-04-27T20:02:56.098-07:00I wouldn't ask him to stand down. The more hat...I wouldn't ask him to stand down. The more hatred, insults and slander Christians give makes it more easier and fun to expose them.WomanForTruth101https://www.blogger.com/profile/00445117235031141812noreply@blogger.com