tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post487957215055911031..comments2023-11-09T05:50:27.936-08:00Comments on The Facts About Islam: Allah's Creation: The 'Diamond Planet'Yahya Snowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18373097645466995642noreply@blogger.comBlogger166125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-28791315501302036602011-09-30T21:14:08.639-07:002011-09-30T21:14:08.639-07:00Bismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm,
"If the Son ...Bismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm,<br /><br /><br />"If the Son were to express omniscience during the incarnation the sacrifice of Jesus his would not be genuine. In order for Jesus fulfill his role as the Covenant head of his people he had trust that God would honor his obedience. <br /><br />If he was all knowing during his time on earth trust would be impossible "<br /><br /><br /><br />O dear, do you think this sort of explanation will convince any truth-seeking people?<br /><br />God incarnation!? sounds Hinduism to me man..<br /><br /><br />You dont seem to read the Bible.<br /><br /><br />According to the Bible God knows all things (1 John 3). <br /><br /><br />It means forever. It doesn't say God knows all thing at some point.<br /><br /><br />But you claim that God nature was changed by inacarnating with human nature.<br /><br /><br />So God in your imagination has multiply personalities. One person all -knowing, who is nonetheless 100% God who must therefore know all things. <br />This latter “individual” who is also 100% God is rather short in memory and suffer amnesia not knowing information about the date of the end of the world. <br /><br /><br />Well I am personally confused, but let everyone judge whether this makes sense.<br /><br /><br />My awesome God Never be a contradiction, ...Subhanallah ...Glory be to God<br /><br />I invite you to free yor mind from false concept of polytheistic God and come to the understanding of the haneef حنيف true monotheism the way it was taught by father Abraham (p)<br /><br /><br />“He is the One God: God the Eternal, the Uncaused Cause of All Being.<br /><br />He begets not, and neither is He begotten; and there is nothing that could be compared with Him.” (Q 112)<br /><br /><br />WassalamErik F.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17137683935653473339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-2200087637147887992011-09-25T08:12:28.689-07:002011-09-25T08:12:28.689-07:00Bismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm
The problem is When...Bismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm<br /><br />The problem is When you conclude There are three persons (whos) one God (what) you intruce new word "person", you must define this word first into another set of argument and see of the argument coherent with the previous argument logically<br /><br />"FMM say,<br /><br />Looks like we are back against that language barrier. "<br /><br /><br />No,<br /><br />We are back against common sense barrier, try to get a course in fundamental logic.<br /><br /><br />It is a logic so basic that sincere truth seeker should be easy to recognize:<br /><br />God is a divine nature. True, it is a “what”<br /><br />God is a being. True, it is a “who”<br /><br />Premise 1: There is one DIVINE NATURE.<br /><br />Premise 2: God 1, Son, God 2, God 3, are each the one DIVINE NATURE.<br /><br />Conclusion: The three persons, God 1 God 1, Son, God 2, God 3, are the one DIVINE NATURE.<br /><br />==> 1 what<br /><br />Premise 1: There is one WHO.<br /><br />Premise 2: God 1, Son, God 2, God 3, are each different WHO.<br /><br />Conclusion: God 1, Son, God 2, God 3 are not the one WHO.<br /><br />==> 3 Whos<br /><br />Logical conclusion must be:<br /><br />God 1, Son, God 2, God 3 are the same one WHAT but different WHO<br /><br />But you came to a laughable conclusion that:<br /><br />God 1, God 2, God 3 are the same one WHO but the one what<br /><br /><br />WassalamErik F.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17137683935653473339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-84188097321015546042011-09-17T15:03:00.343-07:002011-09-17T15:03:00.343-07:00are there any new posts coming soon? kinda getting...are there any new posts coming soon? kinda getting desperate! david wood needs to be refuted again, he's running away with the anti-islam boat.Alihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03587980913713321044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-41139882239765688512011-09-14T06:18:09.466-07:002011-09-14T06:18:09.466-07:00Where is SNOMAN, did the evil jinns get him, is he...Where is SNOMAN, did the evil jinns get him, is he in jail, did he blow up?Radical Moderatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01563355121096154790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-64356247434823281782011-09-11T14:25:32.860-07:002011-09-11T14:25:32.860-07:00Just wanted to wish my Muslim friends a Happy Jiha...Just wanted to wish my Muslim friends a Happy Jihad/Dawha day.<br /><br />And remind everyone that Muslims did die on 9-11, there were 19 that i know of. A fact that I will never forget.Radical Moderatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01563355121096154790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-87966693931098052922011-09-11T09:13:06.873-07:002011-09-11T09:13:06.873-07:00Just wanted to wish all my Muslim friends a Happy ...Just wanted to wish all my Muslim friends a Happy Jihad/Dawah day.<br /><br />I hope you all remember the 19 Muslims who died on 9-11. I know I will never forget.Radical Moderatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01563355121096154790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-35202386662299637032011-09-11T07:27:02.906-07:002011-09-11T07:27:02.906-07:00Bismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm
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Since Jes...Bismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm<br /><br />"...<br />Since Jesus told us to <br />"when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you..."<br /><br /><br />RM,<br /><br />Alhamdulillah,<br /><br />You are now closer to understand the true Message of Jesus (p) <br /><br />So, now you know that never did Jesus think he was God and ask his follower to pray to him. <br /><br />Jesus told us to pray to the Father (God Almighty the One and only God)<br /><br />How? <br /><br />Put your head on the ground in humbleness and prostate like Muslims do when praying during the night in quietness... <br /><br /><br />وَمِنَ اللَّيْلِ فَتَهَجَّدْ بِهِ نَافِلَةً لَّكَ عَسَى أَن يَبْعَثَكَ رَبُّكَ مَقَامًا مَّحْمُودًا<br /><br />“And (during part) of the night, abandon sleep and keep vigil to pray Salat, in addition to the regular obligatory prayer. Your Rabb (the Sustainer) may (as a reward) elevate you to the position of High Distinction, Glory and Praise.”(Q 17:79)<br /><br />So, now you know that never did Jesus think he was God and ask his follower to pray to him. <br /><br />You know know there was no evidence suggested he was no other than a prophet of God and a devout keeper of the law of orthodox Jew and not the dying and rising saviour god of later Pauline Christianity.<br /><br />Praise God!<br /><br />Wassalam<br /><br />Apologize if I cant address all your points I am kinna busy spending quality times with my wife and kids this time aroundErik F.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17137683935653473339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-15626282430776186692011-09-10T09:36:45.569-07:002011-09-10T09:36:45.569-07:00While we are on the subject the differences betwee...While we are on the subject the differences between Islamic human tradition and worship that God commands. <br /><br />Here is another passage showing what God thinks of ritual prayers in public<br /><br /> "Beware of the scribes, who like to walk around in long robes, and love greetings in the marketplaces and the best seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at feasts, who devour widows' houses and for a pretense (show) make long prayers. They will receive the greater condemnation." <br />(Luke 20:46-47)<br /><br /><br />While we are at it I would like to point out that Muslims just finished a month long exhibition of public communal fasting while God’s genuine revelation says,<br /><br /> But when you fast, anoint your head and wash your face, that your fasting may not be seen by others but by your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. <br />(Matthew 6:17-18)<br /><br />It is obvious that God is not impressed with the kinds of traditional ritual that define Islam. <br /><br />Quote:<br /><br />Now when the Pharisees gathered to him, with some of the scribes who had come from Jerusalem, they saw that some of his disciples ate with hands that were defiled, that is, unwashed. (For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they wash their hands, holding to the tradition of the elders, and when they come from the marketplace, they do not eat unless they wash. And there are many other traditions that they observe, such as the washing of cups and pots and copper vessels and dining couches.) And the Pharisees and the scribes asked him,<br /><br />"Why do your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat with defiled hands?" And he said to them, <br /><br />"Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, "'This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.' You leave the commandment of God and hold to the tradition of men." <br />(Mark 7:1-8)<br /><br /><br />End quote:<br /><br />No offence but A person who believes the empty rituals condemned by God are a sign of ones piety can't be described as anything but a rebel against God. <br /><br />PeaceFifth Monarchy Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11490334525087698221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-2048318423041076642011-09-09T13:08:39.402-07:002011-09-09T13:08:39.402-07:00@Erick
You made that claim that Jesus prayed like...@Erick<br /><br />You made that claim that Jesus prayed like a Muslim. Since I demonstrated that he did no such thing. Can you please explain how you came to the conclusion that Jesus prayed like a Muslim and site the verses and number of times he prayed like a Muslim.<br /><br />Thank youRadical Moderatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01563355121096154790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-58918215389764570542011-09-09T06:55:58.472-07:002011-09-09T06:55:58.472-07:00RMM said,
I can identify Christian worship, just ...RMM said,<br /><br />I can identify Christian worship, just as I can identify the false worship of Muslims that Jesus condemed.<br /><br />I say,<br /><br />I think I'm just going to say <br />"What RM said" from now on <br /><br />lol<br /><br />peaceFifth Monarchy Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11490334525087698221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-79803617718405984792011-09-09T05:12:14.454-07:002011-09-09T05:12:14.454-07:00You said,
Cat is animal (what)
Dog is animal (wha...You said,<br /><br />Cat is animal (what)<br />Dog is animal (what)<br />Horse is animal (what)<br /><br />There is one animal (what)<br /><br />Even a kid will spot that this is a false conclusion<br /><br />I say,<br /><br />Eric I thought we already covered this. <br /><br />The divine nature is not like feline nature. <br /><br />The divine nature is not divisible. There can not be three Gods <br /><br />Because of that fact. When we are speaking of the divine nature a better analogy would be <br /><br />Adam is married (what)<br />Eve is married (what)<br /><br />There is one marriage (what)<br /><br />You say,<br /><br /><br />The problem is When you conclude There are three persons (whos) one God (what) you intruce new word "person", you must define this word first into another set of argument and see of the argument coherent with the previous argument logically<br /><br />I say,<br /><br />Looks like we are back against that language barrier. <br /><br />I have no idea what you are trying to say here. <br /><br />The definition of person is.. <br /><br />any human (or non-human) agent which: <br />(1) possesses continuous consciousness over time; and <br />(2) who is therefore capable of framing representations about the world, formulating plans and acting on them.<br /><br />This definition fits perfectly well in my argument and is logicly coherent. <br /><br />You say,<br /><br />Besides it is Wrong to say that three persons make up the only true God. <br />I say,<br /><br />Why? Just claiming something does not make it so. You need to explain why your opinion is correct. <br /><br />You say, <br /><br />In the Bible there is only one true God (John 17:3). <br /><br />I say,<br /><br />All Christians agree there is One true God.<br /><br />The Bible also says <br /><br />The Word is God (John 1:1)<br />The Spirit is God( 2nd Corinthians 3: 16-18)<br />The Father is God (Matthew 5:48) <br /><br />You say,<br /><br />It excludes Jesus (p) or any other from being God that no one else is God.<br /><br /> I say <br /><br />Of course you know this this is incorrect. <br /><br />Instead of excluding Jesus the Bible makes it clear that the Son is God.<br /><br />peaceFifth Monarchy Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11490334525087698221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-5509959790779749402011-09-09T04:20:46.762-07:002011-09-09T04:20:46.762-07:00@Erik you said...
"I rarely seen Christians...@Erik you said...<br /><br />"I rarely seen Christians who follow what Jesus did. "<br /><br />Since Jesus told us to <br />"when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you"<br /><br />Since you don't see Christians doing that, I would say that means that Christians are doing exactly what Jesus commanded them to do. <br /><br />You said...<br /><br />"You think you Christians do the right kind worship ritual?"<br /><br />Since Christ condemed ritual worship I would say I HOPE NOT.<br /><br />You wrote...<br /><br />"I am sure you will problem identifying which one *is* a christian worship and ritual as there is no agreement When it comes to Christian prayer ritual in Christian Church"<br /><br />Not at all I can identify Christian worship. It is the Lords Prayer.<br /><br />Our Father who are in Heaven<br />Holy is your name (Praise)<br /><br />"Your Kingdomcome your will be done on earth as it is in Heaven" (More Praise)<br /><br />"Give us this day our daily bread" (We are dependent on the father he is the provider of all things)<br /><br />"Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors" (We pray to be forgiven for the transgresions against GOD, to be forgiven of the blood debt that is owed to God, as we forgive those that have transgressed against us)<br /><br />"Lead us not into temptation but delever us from evil" (I think that is self explanitory)<br /><br />So yes I can identify Christian worship, just as I can identify the false worship of Muslims that Jesus condemed.Radical Moderatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01563355121096154790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-3424637434740140982011-09-09T03:04:50.418-07:002011-09-09T03:04:50.418-07:00Bismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm
RM,
Alhamdulillah ...Bismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm<br /><br />RM,<br /><br />Alhamdulillah you can correctly identify the ritual of the Salah (Ar. صلاة) (prayer)<br /><br />Now, I dont think any muslims in this forum will disagree with you<br /><br />You see in Islam we do this same rituals for all muslims.<br /><br />You think you Christians do the right kind worship ritual?<br /><br />I am sure you will problem identifying which one *is* a christian worship and ritual as there is no agreement When it comes to Christian prayer ritual in Christian Church.<br /><br /><br />Islam is not a new religion. Literally meaning “submission to the Will of God”.<br /><br />Islam is not named after a people, a place, or an individual. It is the religion of all of the prophets including Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus, and Muhammad (peace be upon them all).<br /><br />Wile the exact ritual like you mentioned and Fiqh of prayer was only finalized in the time of the lat prophet Muhammad (p), the Muslim prayer method of standing, bowing, kneeling, and prostrating in worship are essentially in the manner given in the Torah and the Gospel. <br /><br /><br />Moses, Joshua, Aaron, and Abraham (peace be upon them all) and the angels worshipped the One True God through prostration and bowing. <br /><br /><br />In Matthew 26:39 Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) also puts his face to the ground in humility before God.<br /><br /><br />I rarely seen Christians who follow what Jesus did. <br /><br />What I see a noisy kind of whorship with people jumping, clapping and shouting..<br /><br /><br />You are being arrogant not to bow down and prostrate to God.<br /><br /><br />WassalamErik F.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17137683935653473339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-19322978209758167152011-09-09T03:03:04.829-07:002011-09-09T03:03:04.829-07:00Bismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm
"...The Fath...Bismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm<br /><br /><br /><br />"...The Father is God (what) <br />The Son is God (what)<br />The Spirit is God (what)<br /><br />There is one God (what)<br />There are three persons (whos)<br /><br />Three whos one what ..."<br /><br /><br />Your argument is flawed:<br /><br /><br />The Father is God (what)<br />The Son is God (what)<br />The Spirit is God (what)<br /><br />There is one God (what) <br /><br /><br />If:<br /><br />Cat is animal (what)<br />Dog is animal (what)<br />Horse is animal (what)<br /><br />There is one animal (what)<br /><br />Even a kid will spot that this is a false conclusion<br /><br /><br />The problem is When you conclude There are three persons (whos) one God (what) you intruce new word "person", you must define this word first into another set of argument and see of the argument coherent with the previous argument logically<br /><br />Besides it is Wrong to say that three persons make up the only true God. <br /><br />In the Bible there is only one true God (John 17:3). It excludes Jesus (p) or any other from being God that no one else is God.<br /><br /><br />I'm sure you understand it you're ignoring it in an attempt to preserve your blind faith. <br /><br />WassalamErik F.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17137683935653473339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-32267223049051953302011-09-08T17:52:36.675-07:002011-09-08T17:52:36.675-07:00How could I forget Jesus Condems the way Muslims p...How could I forget Jesus Condems the way Muslims pray...<br /><br />Mathew 6:1<br /><br />“Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven. <br /><br />Mathew 6:5-6<br /><br />Speaking of the way Muslims Pray<br /><br />“When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites (MUSLIMS); for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues (Mosques) and on the street corners(or in the street or parking lot) [d]so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. 6 But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you"<br /><br />Mathew 6:7-8<br /><br />Speaking of Muslims reciting words in Arabic from the Quran which most Muslims do not understand.<br /><br />"And when you are praying, do not use meaningless repetition as the Gentiles(Muslim Pagans) do, for they suppose that they will be heard for their many words. 8 So do not be like them; for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him. "<br /><br />Yeah Jesus did not pray like a MuslimRadical Moderatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01563355121096154790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-83524176997298455042011-09-08T17:21:23.918-07:002011-09-08T17:21:23.918-07:00How did Jesus teach us to pray.
Mathew 6:9-13
“P...How did Jesus teach us to pray.<br /><br />Mathew 6:9-13<br /><br />“Pray, then, in this way: <br /><br /> ‘Our Father who is in heaven, <br />Hallowed be Your name. <br />10 ‘Your kingdom come. <br />Your will be done, <br />On earth as it is in heaven. <br />11 ‘Give us this day [e]our daily bread. <br />12 ‘And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. <br />13 ‘And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from [f]evil<br /><br />Is that how Muslims pray? NOPE DON"T THINK SO.<br /><br />Lets see Jesus also said when your pray do it in a soft voice and in private. Is that how Muslims pray when they make a big spectacle of themselves?Radical Moderatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01563355121096154790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-25565200305504612762011-09-08T17:18:46.944-07:002011-09-08T17:18:46.944-07:00FMM I find it ineresting that Muslims say Jesus pr...FMM I find it ineresting that Muslims say Jesus prayed like they did. Becasue one instance of him praying in the Garden before he was to be arrested and then crucied and die (A fact that Muslims deny) he fell to his face.<br /><br />Well lets take a look at that statement. Did Jesus pray like Muslims in the Garden of Gethsemene?<br /><br />1. Stand raise hands up and say ALLAH AKBAR. Nope he didnt do that.<br /><br />He didn't do that.<br /><br />2.Standing with hands folded over chest, recite the first chapter of the Qur'an in Arabic. Then recite any other verses of the Qur'an that you would like.<br /><br />He didn't do that.<br /><br />3. Raise hands up, saying "Allahu Akbar." Bow, reciting three times, "Subhana rabbiyal adheem" (Glory be to my Lord Almighty).<br /><br />Nope he didn't do that either.<br /><br />4.Rise to standing while reciting "Sam'i Allahu liman hamidah, Rabbana wa lakal hamd" (God hears those who call upon Him; Our Lord, praise be to you)<br /><br />Nope didn't do that either.<br /><br />5.Raise hands up, saying "Allahu Akbar." Prostrate on the ground, reciting three times "Subhana Rabbiyal A'ala" (Glory be to my Lord, the Most High).<br /><br />NOPE.<br /><br />6.Rise to a sitting position, saying "Allahu Akbar." Prostrate again in the same manner.<br /><br />Didn't do that.<br /><br />7.Rise to a standing position, saying "Allahu Akbar."<br /><br />And still nope.<br /><br />8.This concludes one rak'a (cycle or unit of prayer). Begin again from Step 3 for the second rak'a.<br /><br />Yeah he didn't do any of this.<br /><br />But how did Jesus teach us to pray lets have a look.Radical Moderatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01563355121096154790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-6852191689946245352011-09-08T17:09:03.498-07:002011-09-08T17:09:03.498-07:00FMM
I swear your like the engergizer bunny. I got...FMM<br /><br />I swear your like the engergizer bunny. I got bored with them along time ago lol<br /><br />Keep up the good work.Radical Moderatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01563355121096154790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-21281191028810229862011-09-08T14:23:15.326-07:002011-09-08T14:23:15.326-07:00You say,
but it is an act of piety to preserve th...You say,<br /><br />but it is an act of piety to preserve the same exact words God revealed in the scriptures to be used for prayer <br /><br /><br />I say<br /><br />How do you know this? God is the one who determines what an act of piety is not you and God never commanded this strange ritual. <br /><br />You say,<br /><br />Jesus (p) himself put his head on the ground when praying <br /><br />I say,<br /><br />Jesus prayed in lots of different positions including hands extended while nailed to a cross. His father heard him no matter what position he was in at the time <br /><br />You say,<br /><br />and he spoke Aramaic He prayed to Alaha (God in aramaic).<br /><br />I say,<br /><br />How do you know what language he spoke? <br /><br />His preferred address was Abba Father a term that no Muslim that I know of uses. <br /><br />The fact is that you ignore everything Jesus says about prayer and substituted human tradition <br /><br />and then you have the nerve to call it submission to God<br /><br />peace.Fifth Monarchy Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11490334525087698221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-65093974465636787222011-09-08T14:08:37.960-07:002011-09-08T14:08:37.960-07:00You say,
You believe something the Scriptures fai...You say,<br /><br />You believe something the Scriptures fails to mention.<br /><br />I say,<br /><br />That is simply not the case. <br />The doctrine of the Trinity is just short hand for 5 truths that are clearly expounded in scripture<br /><br />1) There is one God <br />2) The father is God <br />3) The Son is God<br />4) The Spirit is God <br />5) The father Son and Spirit are not the same person <br /><br /> If you like I can provide ample evidence scriptural evidence for anyone of these truths that any honest reader will grant <br /><br /><br /><br />You say,<br /><br /><br />It is you who reject clear pasages of the Scripture,<br /><br />I say,<br /><br />please present evidence of a passage of Scripture that I reject or apologize for this slander. <br /><br />you say,<br /><br /> and instead use play trick to force your absurd claim the "three persons in one God" stuff.<br /><br />I say,<br /><br />What "play trick" are you talking about? You need to be specific and provide evidence<br /><br /><br />peaceFifth Monarchy Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11490334525087698221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-34935448018608575652011-09-08T13:55:53.453-07:002011-09-08T13:55:53.453-07:00annon says,
Very simply, because it doesn't f...annon says,<br /><br />Very simply, because it doesn't follow logic.<br /><br />I say,<br /><br />Simply claiming somthing does not make it so. Please point out what part of my explanation is illogical and why.<br /><br />peaceFifth Monarchy Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11490334525087698221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-90343262445291397282011-09-08T13:40:47.110-07:002011-09-08T13:40:47.110-07:00FMM said,
"Why is this so difficult for you ...FMM said, <br />"Why is this so difficult for you to get your head around?" <br /><br />Very simply, because it doesn't follow logic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-52650193119633447422011-09-08T04:28:50.098-07:002011-09-08T04:28:50.098-07:00You say,
Man, it is a fallacy of Equivocation
I...You say,<br /><br />Man, it is a fallacy of Equivocation <br /><br />I say,<br /><br />I have equivocated nothing. I think I’m been very specific and precise. I’ve offered analogies and explanations yet you still have trouble understanding. I wonder why that is? <br /><br /><br /><br />You say,<br /><br />You arrive at an invalid conclusion because you compare two different word with no prior definition for your argumentation.<br /><br /><br />Please explain. I do not understand your objections What "two different word" are you talking about? <br /><br /><br />I think I have been extremely clear and this is extremely simple stuff logically speaking<br /><br />The Father is God (what) <br />The Son is God (what)<br />The Spirit is God (what)<br /><br />There is one God (what)<br />There are three persons (whos)<br /><br />Three whos one what <br /><br />Why is this so difficult for you to get your head around? <br /><br />PeaceFifth Monarchy Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11490334525087698221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-55869023306719051632011-09-08T03:20:02.804-07:002011-09-08T03:20:02.804-07:00Bismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm
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1)The Fat...Bismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm<br /><br />"...<br />1)The Father is God <br />2) The Son is God <br />3) The Father and the Son are not the same person<br /><br />simple straitfoward and logical ..."<br /><br />Man, it is a fallacy of Equivocation <br /><br /><br />You arrive at an invalid conclusion because you compare two different word with no prior definition for your argumentation.<br /><br /><br />"...Actual premise 1) The Father the Son and the Spirit are each different a different person.(who)<br /><br />Actual premise 2) The Father the Son and the Spirit are each God (What) <br /><br />Conclusion: ========> The Biblical doctrine of the Trinity is logical simple and true..."<br /><br /><br />It is a flaw in the structure of your argument, the "what" is the attrbute of who. <br /><br />it can not be both "whos".<br /><br />Here you are using a word with more than one meaning in an argument.<br /><br />Impressive!!<br /><br />Here is basic logic:<br /><br />Premise 1: There is one DIVINE NATURE.<br /><br />Premise 2: God 1, God 2, God 3, are each the one DIVINE NATURE.<br /><br />Conclusion: The three persons, God 1, God 2, God 3 are the one DIVINE NATURE.<br /><br /><br />Premise 1: There is one WHO. TRUE<br /><br />Premise 2: God 1, God 2, God 3 , are each that one WHO. FALSE<br /><br />Conclusion: The three persons, God 1, God 2, God 3 are the one WHO. FALSE<br /><br />The Trinity is FALSE. <br /><br />WassalamErik F.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17137683935653473339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-49894647794263161472011-09-08T03:18:49.737-07:002011-09-08T03:18:49.737-07:00Bismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm
"...The Quran...Bismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm<br /><br /><br />"...The Quran is to be judged by the Bible not the other way around.<br /><br />If we judge the Quran by that standard it will be rejected like all the other books from wannbe prophets because it conflicts with and contradicts God‘s genuine revelation..."<br /><br />Think the following concept of unbroken true Monotheistic God from patriach Abraham (p) (whose name muslims mention in 5 mandatory prayers) in previous revelations: <br /><br />1) There is never a belief that the God of Abraham is triune in nature.<br /><br />2) There is never a belief that the God of Abraham has a divine son.<br /><br />3) There is never a belief that God reveals himself to us through a divine son.<br /><br /><br />This being the case how your belief conflicts with and contradicts God‘s genuine revelation.<br /><br /><br />"...You admit as much yourself when you reject every single book of the Scripture and instead use God's word like a Buffet in which you pick a sentence here and there that tickles your fancy and leave the rest on the cutting room floor ..."<br /><br /><br />It is you who reject clear pasages of the Scripture and instead use play trick to force your absurd claim the "three persons in one God" stuff.<br /><br />You believe something the Scriptures fails to mention.<br /><br />Like what muslims believe, the scriptures is the account of humanity's relationship to God and how God prophets is teaching humankind all things into goodness. God is the Supreme Being the Creator. <br /><br />Yet you believe of a three person God. Something never described anywhere in pages of the Scriptures. Not in the Torah, not in the books of NT, not in the Qur'an <br /><br />WassalamErik F.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17137683935653473339noreply@blogger.com