tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post612096987650261093..comments2023-11-09T05:50:27.936-08:00Comments on The Facts About Islam: Nadir Ahmed Rattles Sam Shamoun (Alcohol Debate)Yahya Snowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18373097645466995642noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-34440619392608080802010-09-22T15:59:36.066-07:002010-09-22T15:59:36.066-07:00kelly, thats quite stupid. drink alcohol but not g...kelly, thats quite stupid. drink alcohol but not get drunk? yeah who follows that rule? it's like saying smoke but don't get addicted to it. alcohol has terrible effects, even if you dont become "drunkeness". just admit it, all doctors and scientists do, that being said, many doctors and scientists who read upon Islam end up embracing it.Alihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03587980913713321044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-72801726565383242072010-09-21T23:01:39.674-07:002010-09-21T23:01:39.674-07:00alcohol causes so many problems. islam forbids it ...alcohol causes so many problems. islam forbids it and christianity allows it.<br />reminds me of a storey. 3 eid's ago an 18 year old muslim girl, who wore the hijab, was killed by a drunk driver. and lets not forget america is a christian country, with 80% professing to the paul faith.<br />i keep hearing in the news, alcoholics beating their children/wives, being in depression etc. alcohol is in NO WAY healthy, it kills brain cells from every sip. what religion would allow something horrible as this? christianity.Alihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03587980913713321044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-39632048488497444762010-09-21T19:36:54.959-07:002010-09-21T19:36:54.959-07:00To the other Anonymous:
Yahya will not delete any ...To the other Anonymous:<br />Yahya will not delete any comment. That is something Acts17 would do. My posts on Acts17 blog get queued for 3 days before approval, sometimes they never appear. One might ask why?1MoreMuslimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04831333084902899060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-36737599307040151572010-09-21T19:34:10.269-07:002010-09-21T19:34:10.269-07:00To one of the Anonymous:
You fail to understand t...To one of the Anonymous:<br /><br />You fail to understand the whole point: I don't see this article condemning the Bible. The point is simply; If the Bible is the word of God, then the Quran, which has more valuable guidance ( regarding Alcohol) cannot be fr om Satan. Further more, The Quran, even before the prohibition of Alcohol, never encouraged the consumption of Alcohol, that cannot be said with regard to the Bible. Paul clearly encouraged drinking wine. See the difference? <br />Why can't you value the Biblical teaching; The devil cannot be divided upon himself.1MoreMuslimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04831333084902899060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-24240703629008075232010-09-21T18:33:42.958-07:002010-09-21T18:33:42.958-07:00Lol!!! Good point, anonymous. Yahya will probably ...Lol!!! Good point, anonymous. Yahya will probably delete your comments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-9715410038729469232010-09-21T18:21:25.588-07:002010-09-21T18:21:25.588-07:00How funny. First you complain that I should not fo...How funny. First you complain that I should not focus on the name of Nadir Ahmed, and then you pretend that knowing my name is relevant to determining the validity of what I have said. <br /><br />Few people would deny that Nadir is off his rocker. You are an exception. And there is no doubt that you are holding forth Nadir as something special in your screed against Sam and are pretending that he did a good job and that other Muslims should emulate his approach. <br /><br />Since you begged me to focus on the problems with your proferred line of argumentation, picked up unreflectingly from Nadir, allow me to point out one problem.<br /><br />On one hand you justified earlier allowances in the Qur'an to drink alcohol on the basis of progressive revelation. However, you also condemned the Bible, which came BEFORE the Quranic prohibition, because Allah at that time allowed people to drink alcohol. In so doing you have spoken evil of Allah. You need to repent of this evil. Consider yourself rebuked.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-73150007696058270252010-09-21T18:08:47.493-07:002010-09-21T18:08:47.493-07:00Does the Judeo-Christian Bible forbid or condemn a...Does the Judeo-Christian Bible forbid or condemn alcohol?<br /><br />No. It does, however, clearly condemn the practice of drunkenness, commands us not to love alcohol, and even cautions us not to like it too much. In the Old Testament, there are about 113 neutral references to alcohol, including the “non-references” such as winepresses or wineskins, seventy negative, and only thirty-one positive. In a couple of cases, there were times where alcohol was temporarily forbidden, like before the priests entered the tabernacle (Leviticus 10:8-11), when priests were to enter the inner court (Ezekiel 44:21), or during a time of the Vow of the Nazirite (Numbers 6:1-20). As well, there were some who were temporarily not to drink, like Samson’s mother while she was pregnant with him (Judges 13:4). A temporary or even permanent banishment on something is not the same thing as a total condemnation. Other things, such as sexual relations, have been temporarily forbidden, like when Moses was consecrating the Israelites to prepare for the Lord’s visit (Exodus 19:15); but this is no way condemns sex. Daniel made the personal choice not to “defile” himself with King Nebuchadnezzar’s “royal food and wine” (Daniel 1:8), but it is unclear if that decision was based solely on the wine. The Ten Commandments and the ordinances, property rights, sundry laws, and covenant with God (Exodus chapter 20-24; Deuteronomy 5:7-21) say nothing whatsoever about alcohol.<br /><br />The New Testament is more consistently negative in its approach to alcohol. There are about fifteen neutral, twenty-seven negative, and only three positive references. There was one individual, John the Baptist, whom we know of, who was not to ever drink (Luke 1:13-15), but Scripture does not tell us why. But again, while we see multiple warnings against drunkenness in the New Testament, at no point do we find the universal statement to all readers that one “shall not” or even “should not” ever consume alcohol. <br /><br />Google: A Toast to the Holy Ghost?Kelly L.http://www.libatique.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-53613085035071086002010-09-21T15:05:30.626-07:002010-09-21T15:05:30.626-07:00@anonymous cont..
Oh yeah..this just further stre...@anonymous cont..<br /><br />Oh yeah..this just further strengthens my view of anonymous comments being a shield which sets an individual free from the responsibility of the words put forward.<br /><br />Would you have commented in such a clumsy fashion if your identity was appended to the said comment?<br /><br />I doubt itYahya Snowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18373097645466995642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-9588321242825191142010-09-21T15:01:40.393-07:002010-09-21T15:01:40.393-07:00@anonymous,
Calm down with your anti-Nadir Ahmed ...@anonymous,<br /><br />Calm down with your anti-Nadir Ahmed rhetoric...the article is not about Nadir Ahmed but it is about Shamoun's anaemic response<br /><br />The article is written by myself not Nadir Ahmed. <br /><br />This has very little to do with Nadir Ahmed and the article did not "champion" Nadir Ahmed but the article did highlight the feeble state of Shamoun's response.<br /><br />I would advise you to look beyond your disdain for N.Ahmed and concentrate on the arguments put forward...I think you will find them to be pretty potent.<br /><br />PS, please cool down with the uncalled for insults...and try reading the material before commenting<br /><br />PeaceYahya Snowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18373097645466995642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-52268822040985130122010-09-21T14:37:43.747-07:002010-09-21T14:37:43.747-07:00It is well known that "rattled" is a goo...It is well known that "rattled" is a good description of the psyche and mental health of Nadir Ahmed. Even acknowledging that this guy is a Muslim, much less that he is somehow a champion of the Muslim cause, the latter of which has not only been denied by Christians but many others who know just how poorly Nadir has done in all of his debates with Sam Shamoun (and others), should prove to be a major embarassment. It also goes a long way in telling everyone just how competent and sensible Yahya Snow is to judge and report on such matters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com