tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post677900838783603916..comments2023-11-09T05:50:27.936-08:00Comments on The Facts About Islam: Ergun Caner, James White’s Friend, Samuel Green, Paul Williams and John AnkerbergYahya Snowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18373097645466995642noreply@blogger.comBlogger70125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-62620593259942882362013-06-03T09:05:01.230-07:002013-06-03T09:05:01.230-07:00Jake Blake, great site and insight into the mind s...Jake Blake, great site and insight into the mind set of Ijaz. It is spot on and really does explain Ijaz's bizarre behavior when it comes to his much sought after interactions with oldermen. <br /><br />Put am email address on your blog so I can send you multiple files documenting Ijaz's playing the victim at the hands of an older man.<br /><br />His tirades and accusations of abuse seem to come out of nowhere. But now I can see how this is the only way he knows how to interact with his elders, its what he was taught by his Muslim father. <br /><br />May he repent and come to Christ soon so he may truly know a loving relationship. Radical Moderatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01563355121096154790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-21810140219518518042013-05-30T12:33:36.395-07:002013-05-30T12:33:36.395-07:00Hi Trinity325,
The article doesn't say Ergun ...Hi Trinity325,<br /><br />The article doesn't say Ergun is a friend of James. It's telling you Sam Shamoun is James' friend.<br /><br />See Sam Shamoun info here:<br /><br />http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Sam%20ShamounYahya Snowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18373097645466995642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-55044664543807454822013-05-30T09:49:22.068-07:002013-05-30T09:49:22.068-07:00As far as I know, Ergun Caner is no friend of Jame...As far as I know, Ergun Caner is no friend of James White, White has done a video with his Arabic tutor exposing Caner. So to refer to Caner as White's friend is a canard.Answering Judaismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08118361261862962380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-17767334217967640642013-05-25T14:28:39.370-07:002013-05-25T14:28:39.370-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Jesus is Lordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15626575511368922882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-53257439332183884822013-05-23T14:29:24.405-07:002013-05-23T14:29:24.405-07:00Ijaz one more case where u have been exposed on th...Ijaz one more case where u have been exposed on this blog for being the liar you are.<br /><br />I remember the post of yours where you were pretending to be able to hold your own with Anthony on the Hebrew text of Zechariah 12:10 where he made you look downright silly. And just like Anthony said here: you utterly exposed your ignorance and deception when you kept referring to NA27 as if it were a Hebrew text when it is not. AND JUST AS ANTHONY PREDICTED, I now see that you have completely erased the embarassing discussion from your website. Just like Yahya Snow and Paul William have done so many times in the past. How many times does he have to make you look silly before you will learn?Radical Moderatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01563355121096154790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-28236805243463856712013-05-23T14:27:19.992-07:002013-05-23T14:27:19.992-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Radical Moderatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01563355121096154790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-6499100759292410992013-05-23T13:41:51.687-07:002013-05-23T13:41:51.687-07:00Erik wrote...
"Callingchristians is no ordin...Erik wrote...<br /><br />"Callingchristians is no ordinary Muslim, he has been a young and very talented Da'ee (May Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala reward him generously)"<br /><br />My response:<br /><br />Yes Ijaz is special alright, and he is very talented at lying and making false accusations.<br /><br />Case in point. Ijaz falsely accused me of calling him a Sharmuta. Here is what he wrote on this blog on 21 May 2013 19:01.<br /><br />"Could you perhaps let me know what you meant by, 'if she can take it like a man, why can't you?' is supposed to mean, or perhaps referring to me as 'sharmota', or perhaps telling another male to 'gird up his loins'."<br /><br />He even posted a link to his website in which he selectively coppied and pasted Sam Shamoun correcting me on the spelling of Sharmuta.<br /><br />What Ijaz did not copy and paste is the fact that I was not calling him a Sharmuta, I was making a reference to Ijaz calling my MOTHER a SHARMUTA on paltalk.<br /><br />Here is what I actually wrote...<br /><br />"Well Ijaz I have no doubt you will call me a anti Semite, accuse me of threatening to stab you, or bring harm and death to your family, accuse my mother of being a SHAMUTA and a whore, and of coarse picking on a 20 year old kid.<br /><br />Oh wait you have already done all that."<br /><br />You can read it here at this site...<br /><br />http://badmanna.wordpress.com/2012/07/01/the-son-sees-and-does-what-the-father-is-doing-therefore-the-son-possesses-the-same-divine-essence-as-the-father/#comments<br /><br />So I guess lying, and calling Christian mothers whores makes a very talented special Da'ee.<br /><br />Radical Moderatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01563355121096154790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-30900701437343428212013-05-23T12:26:59.874-07:002013-05-23T12:26:59.874-07:00Erik you wrote...
"Antromorphism is still ev...Erik you wrote...<br /><br />"Antromorphism is still evident but is purely literal in Islam otherwise human can never talk about God at all."<br /><br />Not all Muslims believe your allah's parts are figurative. Some Muslims believe they are literal.<br /><br />You also wrote...<br /><br />"God does not take human form in Islam it is abhorred in all its forms and manifestations."<br /><br />Yes your god sounds more like Frankenstein's monster, just a collection of parts with no loins and a pre existent womb.<br /><br />A transexual god.Radical Moderatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01563355121096154790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-72347832731828317772013-05-23T08:18:10.077-07:002013-05-23T08:18:10.077-07:00In the name of Allah the Gracious the Merciful
Go...In the name of Allah the Gracious the Merciful<br /><br />God does not take human form in Islam it is abhorred in all its forms and manifestations.<br /><br />Here is the proof:<br /><br />"There is nothing whatever like unto Him Q 42:11<br /> <br />Antromorphism is still evident but is purely literal in Islam otherwise human can never talk about God at all.<br /><br />On the contrary in Christianity it is a physical sense (not a literal) that God become a human being. A ‘Godman’ who eat, sleep, and go to toilet.<br /><br />The worship of God in human form is therefore a logical fallacy.<br /><br /><br />Imagine if a god incarnate to become a god-man then he cut his nails or got circumcized? what happened to the cut nails and his foreskins? were those god's properties?? or they just decay like an other human properties?Erichttps://www.facebook.com/kisamricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-33353125481251212342013-05-22T18:12:11.947-07:002013-05-22T18:12:11.947-07:00Ijaz wrote...
“Whether not all Muslims believe so...Ijaz wrote...<br /><br />“Whether not all Muslims believe so or not, does not matter. “<br /><br />My resposne:<br /><br />Really it does not matter that there are Muslims who believe that your loin-less god has literal parts? Because that was the point of AR video.<br /><br />You also wrote...<br /><br />“ If the point of AR's video was to demonstrate that one opinion based on his own conclusions is true, then yes, he proved his own conclusions to be true. “<br /><br />He did not demonstrate one opinion based on his own conclusion. He demonstrated the opinion of Muslim scholars and their conclusion and the conclusion of Abu Laith from his article in 2007.<br /><br />You also wrote...<br /><br />“Abu Layth's statement(s) were clear, he made an error in declaring that, this particular sect believed in it literally and what the 'it' is, does not exist as it was mistranslated.”<br /><br />My response<br /><br />How is Abu Layth refuting Abu Layth a refutation of Anthony Rogers scholarly video presentation and your tacid admission that there were and are Muslims who believe that your now loin-less castrated god has literal parts?<br /><br />You wrote...<br /><br /> “So yes, the basis/ foundation for AR's video was negated and his projection of his own sick and perverted beliefs cannot be found in Islam.”<br /><br />My Response:<br /><br />So AR's bassis and foundation that some Muslims believe and have believed that your loin-less castrated god has literal parts based on Islamic scholars and your own admission is negated because a Muslim refutes his previous position and now says that allah has a waist cloth instead of loins? What color is the sky in your world?<br /><br />You wrote...<br /><br />“As for Allaah having eyes etc, See 43:11, 112:4, it is not literal. “<br /><br />My response<br /><br />That’s what you believe, however again I state the fact that’s not what all Muslims believe. There are Muslims who believe that your loin-less castrated god has literal parts. You do not represent all Muslims.<br /><br />So in conclusion to all this, you made the statement in your debate that Christians, worshiped the foreskin of Christ. After further investigation it was found that this was done by a small group in the middle ages, that in fact the Roman Catholic Church never sanctioned it, and has since abolished the practice first calling for excommunication and later shunning.<br /><br />AR points out that Muslims believe allah has literal parts, this is not done by heretics, this is not something that makes you a non Muslim but in fact it is something that is believed by traditional Muslims and Muslim scholars. Your only objection is that Abu Layth once wrote that allah had loins, now he says allah does not have loins but a waist cloth.<br /><br />It seems you and Abu Layth are embarrassed that your god has loins either figuratively or literaly, so you would rather castrate your god and take away his loins. Btw your explanation that it is a metaphor for the creation of the world would make more sense if in fact it was allahs loins that the pre existent womb attached to, and not his waist or waist cloth. BTW a waist cloth would also cover the loins.Radical Moderatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01563355121096154790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-59202139409874021872013-05-22T15:22:27.998-07:002013-05-22T15:22:27.998-07:00Concerning the interpretation that Face refers to ...Concerning the interpretation that Face refers to His Essence (Dhaat). Then if it is meant by this that it refers to His Essence while at the same time affirming a Face for him, then this is acceptable. For Face is an attribute of His Essence and it is not something created or separate from Him. Hence, if everything will perish save His Face, then it is understood from this that His Dhaat will not perish either, it will remain and this is because Face is an Attribute of the Essence, not created and separate from it. (Abu Iyaad, Affirmation of the Attribute of Face for Allaah, p.3)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-49740031772193943442013-05-22T15:05:45.996-07:002013-05-22T15:05:45.996-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-8414943841401595372013-05-22T15:04:18.857-07:002013-05-22T15:04:18.857-07:00http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe/showthread.php?t=14...http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe/showthread.php?t=1476Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-29840943527396052672013-05-22T14:31:21.652-07:002013-05-22T14:31:21.652-07:00S. 43:11 and 112:4 are not literal?S. 43:11 and 112:4 are not literal?Jakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-6391268659649626422013-05-22T14:22:18.364-07:002013-05-22T14:22:18.364-07:00@Radical,
"Ijaz we don't visit your blog...@Radical,<br /><br />"Ijaz we don't visit your blog"<br /><br />That would be hard to believe as you did visit it last night. Proof by contradiction.<br /><br />"you have to come to another Muslims blog and engage us."<br /><br />Nope, I already engage Green + Shamoun via Email, and others on Facebook PM.<br /><br />"We are not the ones who are spending countless hours on you."<br /><br />Perhaps not you, but you're a nobody, on the other hand, the countles emails we receive, Facebook message and Tweet DM's is enough to keep us busy. Not to mention the hours I've spent with Green recently and I've learnt a lot of his views because of the sheer amount of hours he's spent going back and forth with me.<br /><br />"It is you who is spending countless hours on us."<br /><br />I don't think I've even spent an hour on you RM, or Anthony. In fact, isn't it you who after an entire night, who chose to return here to re-read my previous comments to you and then comment again? I'd say you're spending an awful amount of time on me.<br /><br />"I would even say stalking us since we don't visit your blog or have anything to do with you"<br /><br />Stalking would mean I care or that I even bother with you, to the contrary you're a nobody and no one really cares what you think. Now go have supper and stop commenting old man - why continue a discussion if you don't think I'm worth the time?<br /><br />Your persistence says it all. Dance puppet.CallingChristians.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13398491998037720677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-18369463985816306772013-05-22T14:17:19.698-07:002013-05-22T14:17:19.698-07:00@Radical,
Whether not all Muslims believe so or n...@Radical,<br /><br />Whether not all Muslims believe so or not, does not matter. For all Christians are also not all Calvinists, they are not all Arians, they are not all Unitarian. If the point of AR's video was to demonstrate that one opinion based on his own conclusions is true, then yes, he proved his own conclusions to be true. Abu Layth's statement(s) were clear, he made an error in declaring that, this particular sect believed in it literally and what the 'it' is, does not exist as it was mistranslated.<br /><br />So yes, the basis/ foundation for AR's video was negated and his projection of his own sick and perverted beliefs cannot be found in Islam.<br /><br />As for Allaah having eyes etc, See 43:11, 112:4, it is not literal.CallingChristians.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13398491998037720677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-34095810320605998192013-05-22T12:30:50.513-07:002013-05-22T12:30:50.513-07:00Ijaz one more thing. You wrote...
"No one he...Ijaz one more thing. You wrote...<br /><br />"No one here is whining, I'm making a very obvious point. Why do these men, grown men, old men....spend countless hours arguing with me, when the head honcho says to ignore me?<br /><br />Ijaz we don't visit your blog, you have to come to another Muslims blog and engage us. We are not the ones who are spending countless hours on you. It is you who is spending countless hours on us. I would even say stalking us since we don't visit your blog or have anything to do with you.<br /><br />Radical Moderatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01563355121096154790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-42167948251738900142013-05-22T12:19:17.073-07:002013-05-22T12:19:17.073-07:00Ijaz
I don't know how I missed this but you w...Ijaz<br /><br />I don't know how I missed this but you wrote...<br /><br />"Whoa! Take a moment to breathe, that's right, not everything is literal. So when Christ compares himself to a mother hen in the NT, guess what? He isn't saying he's a mother hen! It's what we educated people call a metaphor."<br /><br />My Response<br /><br />So you claim that your loinless god allah having parts is just a metaphor. Well thats what u believe however thats not what all Muslims believe and that was the point of AR's video.<br /><br />The only response from Abu Laith was on the how he (Abu Laith) translated an arabic word to be Loin or Loin Cloth. Abu Laith has now changed his mind and refuted his own earlier translation. Hardly a refutation of Anthony Rogers video.<br /><br />Ijaz so you believe that your loinless god having parts is to be taken as a metaphor. But is that what all Muslims believe or have believed?<br /><br />Also Ijaz how come your loinless god can have, eyes, hands, arms, shin, nose, face and even a waist, but not LOINS? What is the problem with allah having metaphorical loins?<br />Radical Moderatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01563355121096154790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-90814877611749832492013-05-22T07:47:46.970-07:002013-05-22T07:47:46.970-07:00Eric,
Allah is a man. He has a face, hands and lo...Eric,<br /><br />Allah is a man. He has a face, hands and loins for Pete's sake. <br /><br />Son of Man as used by Jesus is a Divine title derived from Daniel 7. It refers to a Divine person who appears in human form. <br /><br />Salvation is found in Christ alone. <br /><br />Your deity changed after creation, i. e. he became things after creation that he was mot before: loving, forgiving, merciful, etc. <br /><br />"One is one" is a tautology. It says nothing. Unity of singularity? Unity of Simplicity? Etc. Jakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-76848087484569704052013-05-22T07:08:06.452-07:002013-05-22T07:08:06.452-07:00Jake, Callingchristians is no ordinary Muslim, he ...Jake, Callingchristians is no ordinary Muslim, he has been a young and very talented Da'ee (May Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala reward him generously)<br /><br />I think he is the one who is the most entertained here. <br /><br />Seriously folks, he made effort to help Christians to worship God not man.<br /><br />Time and time again the your Gospel says Jesus is the "son of man." <br /><br />We know that:<br />1. God is not a man<br /><br />2. God is not a son of man<br /><br />3. Do not put your faith in the son of man there is no salvation<br /><br />4. God is unchanging He is as He always was and will be<br /><br />5. One means ONE.<br />Erichttps://www.facebook.com/kisamricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-25292482358733674032013-05-22T05:36:38.848-07:002013-05-22T05:36:38.848-07:00I expected a childish reply.
Since Rogers left y...I expected a childish reply. <br /><br />Since Rogers left you and Nak only commented twice, how is your reply even apparently a good excuse?<br /><br />As for Moderate, he seems to be more entertained by you than you are by him. <br /><br />Just saying. Jakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-27562853258928996532013-05-22T04:52:12.007-07:002013-05-22T04:52:12.007-07:00@Jake,
No one here is whining, I'm making a v...@Jake,<br /><br />No one here is whining, I'm making a very obvious point. Why do these men, grown men, old men....spend countless hours arguing with me, when the head honcho says to ignore me?<br /><br />Personally, I enjoy every minute of it, for these old timers, they don't like getting served with what they dish out.CallingChristians.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13398491998037720677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-30210364734630194462013-05-22T04:44:37.240-07:002013-05-22T04:44:37.240-07:00Haaaaaaa! There he goes bringing up his age and wh...Haaaaaaa! There he goes bringing up his age and whining about being picked on. Just like Rogers and Radical said. Now i have seen it with my own two eyes. (For Ijaz, please don't take that as a sexual reference.)Jakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-45236561233651099922013-05-22T03:38:31.507-07:002013-05-22T03:38:31.507-07:00@Mr. Berenstein,
I know I'm a day late, but h...@Mr. Berenstein,<br /><br />I know I'm a day late, but happy 33rd birthday. Don't know about you, but it's kind of sad that at 33 years old, all you can do is sit on a computer and try to make fun of someone more than a decade younger than you.<br /><br />Personally, that's kind of depressing, and the fact that you get enjoyment out of cheerleading for AR and RM is even worse. 33 years old and this is what you find yourself doing?<br /><br />Now that's hilarious.CallingChristians.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13398491998037720677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-248234931266550822.post-9370448521867246782013-05-22T03:28:37.559-07:002013-05-22T03:28:37.559-07:00Christians do not believe in luck, eric.
I canno...Christians do not believe in luck, eric. <br /><br />I cannot help but notice u did not mention callingchristians in your roll call of "good" muslims. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com