Just when you thought "Christian" Fundamentalists were learning to be a tad more honest...
Right, we have already seen an overview of the history of Christian missionary dishonesty concerning Islam so it comes as no surprise to see some modern day “Christian ministries” peddling lies about Muslims.
The lies geared towards converting Muslims to Christianity are one thing but lies which have the potential to demonize Muslims and set Christians (and others) against Muslims endanger communities – especially Muslim minorities in the West.
Here we see an internet Christian ministry (David Wood of Acts 17) peddling the lie that Muslims are commanded to torture and kill Christians who FIX CHURCH ROOFS or WEAR CROSSES!!!
Now, the reasonable amongst you would pass this bloke off as misinformed at the very least – if not completely off his rocker. So why publicize this man’s lies? There are a number of reasons, here are three:
1. There are gullible folk out there who would believe such divisive lies simply because they trust “Christian evangelists” or are insincere in that they really want to believe such deceptions. This reinforces hatred and stereotypes, thus further endangering Muslims minorities
2. We need to make an example of Islamophobes – if they are peddling lies it is always nice to expose them as it makes other Islamophobes think twice – we help to nudge them to honesty and decency!
3. Lies can confuse folk so there needs to be a mopping up process.
“Christian” Missionary (David Wood) presented dangerous lies
If the video does not play, please visit:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/5918502/more_islamophobic_lies_from_acts_17_apologetics_david_wood/
Video is made by the “infamous” Yahya Snow :)
Obvious LIES and Distortions
The Quranic Verse the Islamophobe speaks about (5:33 – see footnote 1) has nothing to do with church roofs or wearing crosses. This is an OBVIOUS LIE presented by Mr Wood of Acts 17 Apologetics.
The Verse was revealed concerning a group of people who had committed the heinous crime of murder and theft – severe highway robbery [2]
Commentaries are quoted in the comment section
This “missionary” is exposed in more ways than one
Not only do the commentaries tell us this chap is lying through his back teeth but also Islamic jurisprudence tells a similar story as it uses this Verse (5:33) as a guide to punish those who commit the crime of highway robbery [3]
Jurists may also use this verse as a guide with regards to punishing other serious crimes such as rape at gun or knife point [4]
Leaky roofs? More like leaky vessels of honesty!
I hope you can see we are talking about serious crimes which have the potential to cause fear and panic amongst communities. We are not talking about fixing leaky roofs – the missionary was simply advancing LIES!!!
So the experts (the commentators and jurists) show us this fella is telling tall tales – that’s to say he is making stuff up. How sad
As we have seen in the video, Muslim societal norms also show this dishonest man to be misleading us. [5]
The Holy Spirit
Christian evangelists claim to have the Holy Spirit dwelling within yet time and time again we see Christian evangelists embroiled in such outrageous episodes of misinformation such as the one above.
How do you seriously expect Muslims and other Non-Christians to believe you when your missionaries engage in lies? In this case the lies were Islamophobic and contained the potential to lead misguided folk to harass Muslim minorities in the West. Perhaps that was the design for the lie, I don’t know - ask the man who peddled the lie!
I call him to public apology and repentance
Christians PLEASE stop supporting the disingenuous and dishonest “Christian ministries”
May Allah guide us all. Ameen.
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Footnotes
[1] The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom
[Pikthal translation 5:33]
[2] Ref Commentaries: Al Wahidi, Jalalayn, Ibn Kahir, ibn Abbas. (See comment section)
[3] See Shafi fiqh, Reliance of the Traveller, read entire o15 section (Translated by Nuh Hamim Keller – Amana Publications)
[4] See Sheikh Al-Munajjid’s material on the punishment for rape – the relevant excerpt is quoted in this article – follow the link to see the entire body of work:
http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.com/search/label/Rape
[5] Not only that but Muslim societal norms militate against this man’s nonsense. In fact Muslims have even had the Pope visit wearing a CROSS – nobody tortured him. In the video I could have also shown further Muslim societal evidence. Mentioning the كنيسة القديس الياس دمشق, Saint Elias Church (Damascus-Syria) was sufficient as it was built in 1800 and has been twice renovated since but no tortured Christians could be found!
Tafsir al jalalayn:
ReplyDeleteThe following was revealed when the ‘Arniyyūn came to Medina suffering from some illness, and the Prophet (s) gave them permission to go and drink from the camels’ urine and milk. Once they felt well they slew the Prophet’s shepherd and stole the herd of camels: Truly the only requital of those who fight against God and His Messenger, by fighting against Muslims, and hasten about the earth to do corruption there, by waylaying, is that they shall be slaughtered, or crucified, or have their hands and feet cut off on opposite sides, that is, their right hands and left feet, or be banished from the land (the aw, ‘or’, is [used] to indicate the [separate] application of [each of] the cases [listed]; thus, death is for those that have only killed; crucifixion is for those that have killed and stolen property; the cutting off [of limbs on opposite sides] is for those that have stolen property but have not killed; while banishment is for those that pose a threat — this was stated by Ibn ‘Abbās and is the opinion of al-Shāfi‘ī; the more sound of his [al-Shāfi‘ī’s] two opinions is that crucifixion should be for three days after [the] death [of the killer], or, it is also said, shortly before [he is killed]; with banishment are included similar punishments, such as imprisonment and the like). That, mentioned requital, is a degradation, a humiliation, for them in this world; and in the Hereafter theirs will be a great chastisement, namely, the chastisement of the Fire.
Ibn abbas:
ReplyDeleteThe following verse was revealed about the people of Hilal Ibn 'Uwaymir who killed a group of people from the Banu Kinanah. This group wanted to emigrate to Medina to see Allah's Messenger (pbuh) and declare their Islam. However, they were all killed and their belongings taken as booty. Hence, Allah explained the punishment of the people of the Banu Hilal, who were idolaters, saying: (The only reward) requital (of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger) of those who disbelieve in Allah and His messenger (and strive after corruption in the land) and engage in sin in the land, i.e. by wrongfully killing others and taking their properties (will be that they will be killed) He says: the punishment of one who kills and does not take the victim's property is that he be killed (or crucified) He says: the punishment of one who kills a person and also takes his property is that he be crucified, (or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off) the right hand and the left leg. He says: the punishment of one who takes another's property but does not kill is that his hand and leg be cut off, (or will be expelled out of the land) or he will be put in prison until he displays righteousness and his repentance becomes apparent. Allah says: the punishment of someone who terrorises people as a highway robber but does not kill or take anyone's property is that he be imprisoned. (Such) that which I have mentioned (will be their degradation) their punishment (in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom) more severe than their punishment which they suffered in this world, that is, if the person does not repent;
Al wahidi:
ReplyDelete(The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger…) [5:33]. Abu Nasr Ahmad ibn ‘Ubayd Allah al-Makhladi informed us> Abu ‘Amr ibn Nujayd> Muslim> ‘Abd al-Rahman ibn Hammad> Sa‘id ibn Abi ‘Arubah> Qatadah> Anas who related that a group of people from ‘Ukal and ‘Uraynah went to see the Messenger of Allah, Allah, bless him and give him peace. They said: “O Messenger of Allah, we were never people of agriculture, and before we settled around Medina we used to be people who looked after cattle”. The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, ordered that they be given a flock of camels, a shepherd and commanded them to set off with them, with a dispensation to drink their milk and urine. When they reached the region of al-Harrah, they killed the shepherd of the Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, and took off with the camels. The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, sent after them and when they were captured and brought to him, he cut off their hands and feet and gouged their eyes. They were left in this state in Medina until they died. Said Qatadah: “It was mentioned to us that this verse was revealed about them (The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land…)”. Narrated by Muslim from Muhammad ibn al-Muthanna from ‘Abd al-A‘la from Sa‘id up to the quotation of Qatadah.
Wood:...Muslims are commanded to torture and kill Christians who FIX CHURCH ROOFS or WEAR CROSSES!!!
ReplyDeleteFunny how the earliest Muslims missed out on this injunction. As Daniel Brown (a scholar of Islam, not the author of The Da Vinci Code) writes, "New synagogues, churches and monasteries were still being built into the eighth century"
http://books.google.com/books?id=ViTmBB8DQNcC&printsec=frontcover&dq=a+new+introduction+to+islam&hl=en&ei=ItFOTdLZIJGzhAe65r2HDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=destruction&f=false
lol lol lol
ReplyDeletedavid woods =joker and liar
lol lol lol
david r u doing takyia??????
looooooooooooll wat a joker
the joker wood wants to debate anjem choudary on abn. lol. 2 attention wanters debating. lol lol lol
ReplyDeleteanjem should cancel becz of david woods lies.
dnt call them acts 17 apologetics call them acting 17 apologetics.
y they shut up wen exposed???looooooool
February 12th, 2011: David and Nabeel at Islam Conference on Long Island, New York
ReplyDeleteFor anyone in the New York/New Jersey/Connecticut area, there's a one-day Islam conference on Long Island this Saturday. The conference is free and open to the public. For those who can't make it, we'll see if we can do some recording and upload the talks to YouTube.
WHO: David and Nabeel (Acts 17 Apologetics)
WHAT: Islam Conference
WHEN: Saturday, February 12th, 2011, 11:00 A.M. to 6:00 P.M.
WHERE: Grace Reformed Baptist Church of Long Island, 36 Smith Street, Merrick, NY 11566
WHY: Because we're comm
u boys goin?