As far as I am aware, Samuel Green has not responded to the following point raised in an email exchange so how about one of James White's supporters who frequents this blog present this point to him:
Have you ever stopped to think about all those Christians prior to the 19th century discovery of Codex Sinaticus who used to believe the last 12 verses of Mark were inspired by God and part of the Bible (they had similar beliefs about John 7:53-8:11 and that version of Luke 23:34). NOW you and other modern day Christians will claim those Christians of the past believed in forgeries/errors.
You have no guaranty that this will not happen to you in your life time (i.e. a new MSS discovery is made and a passage is denounced as an unauthorised addition).
Jesus taught people to do the Will of God (according to Mark 3:35) in order to become his brothers, mothers or sisters. A Muslim means one who submits to the Will of God. Do you want to become a brother of Jesus? If yes, become a Muslim.
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There are at least two reasons I can think of why no one has replied to you on this: 1) they don't pay attention to your blog, and 2) it isn't a very challenging question.
ReplyDeleteThe reason I say it is not challenging is because there is nothing in those passages that can't be found in principle elsewhere in holy Scripture. For example, the longer ending of Mark records resurrection appearances of Jesus. So even without the longer ending we have Paul's account of the appearances to the apostles that was written even earlier than Mark's gospel. Several other places speak of Christ appearing to people after He rose triumphantly from the dead as well.
Additionally, as Daniel Wallace has pointed out, our manuscript tradition is so rich at this point that it is exceedingly unlikely that any new manuscript discovery will tell us anything different or new. The original text has been established with a high degree of accuracy.
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ReplyDelete1.I said this before but it is vital to repeat it.The question is if the final part of Mark was added on purpose or was a mistake by the Greek copyists.There are copies were the Greek copyists add a note or sign meaning the text is doubtful.Bruce Metzger has written on this.
2.Those who copied were GREEK-SPEAKERS and the Greek of Mark is very bad.
3.Yet out of respect for the text the Greek copyists did not correct the grammar,spelling,syntax,but copied it as it is.They did the same for the text of Revelation,which is in very bad Greek also.That is strong evidence(2 cases:Mark and Revelation) that there was a tradition of copying the text as well as possible.Not that every copyist did it, but in general.
@anon who wrote:
ReplyDeleteThere are at least two reasons I can think of why no one has replied to you on this: 1) they don't pay attention to your blog, and 2) it isn't a very challenging question
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1. The question was actually sent to him in an email dialogue so it's not because Samuel didn't see the blog. Peace
2. You say it's not challenging, however I see you miss the point in your answer. The point is something has been added into the text (not just the last part of Mark) which Christians believed to be part of the Bible until the 18th century once new codices were found. So think about it, they, only ca 200 years ago believed a book was the Bible and then decided certain parts are possible additions (forgeries). So what makes you think that won't happen tomorrow about another portion of the NT?
Think about it. Thanks
PS Please leave out the antagonism. There's no need for it.
Peace