Tuesday, 25 March 2014

The Evidence is Mounting, The Donations Surely are Decreasing. Another unanswered oldie..

Dishonesty and malice does not get much worse than this latest episode as Answering Islam offers lunacy to prop up its past blunders.

You may recall, we rebuked two Answering Islam authors (David Wood and Sam Shamoun) for propagating the thighing hoax on separate occasions – Mr. Shamoun was peddling these lies 2-3 years ago whilst Mr. Wood relatively recently reinvented ‘dumb and dumber’ by picking up on the SAME hoax despite his colleague being rebuked into silence years prior. The truth and accuracy are no obstacles for folk from Answering Islam.

Lunacy, desperate lunacy…

A couple of months ago one of their financial backers (Radical Moderate) called in to the ‘Jesus or Muhammad’ (ABN) show and quizzed them on our rebuke at the behest of a commenter on this blog (Abdul).

Sam Shamoun and David Wood were clearly under pressure in a live situation under the careful watch of a generally Islamophobic Christian audience. This pressure was too much to bear for SamShamoun as he circumnavigated the obvious and rightful action (apologizing for his past promotion of lies) in favour of a full frontal attack which amounted to little other than hot air – hot air with the whiff of dishonesty.

In short he persisted with his proven lie by insisting he was right and (wrongly) repeated ‘Muhammad did thigh Aisha’. To prop up his bout of desperate lunacy he claimed to have a ‘massive Arabic file’ saved on his computer. Huh?
Lunacy: Answering Islam Propagating Malicious Falsehoods


If the video does not play please view the same upload here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUcjw7bQbP8
Thighing Hoax

For those who are still unaware, the claim that Prophet Muhammad ‘thighed’ Aisha (Aishah) is a hoax (lie).

This malicious claim arose from a Christian website in the form of a ‘fatwa’. As previously noted Saudi scholars have denounced this ‘fatwa’ as a lie and rejected the claim that Muhammad performed this act.

Muhaddith.org offered a fine synopsis of this internet hoax:

The lie does not cite any hadith, but merely repeats a falsified fatwa against Saudi scholars who denied ever having made it, as declared on their website, and they added "Our Prophet prohibits even seclusion with a fiancée."


Therefore, the only sexual acts with prepubescent girls were actually just fantasized in the perverted imagination of the person fabricating the lie in his sick mind about “thighing” and “rubbing” repeatedly a 6 year old girl.

Evidence, what is evidence?

Answering Islam have had years to study and realize that a claim of Prophet Muhammad performing any action can only be backed up by a narration or a Quranic Verse. Neither narration nor a Quranic Verse supports their fabrications. Why do they still persist with such lies then?

Why Answering Islam is not coming clean…

Perhaps Mr. Shamoun’s (and Mr. Wood’s?) donations and pride keep him from admitting he presented lies and has nothing evidential. He has had 2-3 years to present his material, yet he has not presented anything. That’s to say, he knows he has nothing. He knows this but dupes the Christian caller (and audience) into thinking he has something to support his falsifications.

Secret files? Answering Islam have been watching too many episodes of X Files

Answering Islam’s Sam Shamoun (their unappealing version of Fox Mulder) claims he has a ‘massive Arabic file’ and needs to get it ‘translated’. As astutely mentioned in the video, if he is yet to have it translated then he is appealing to something which he has not even digested nor even read. Shear and unadulterated lunacy!

Moreover and more importantly, Mr. Shamoun messaged me in December of 2010 concerning this file. He has had months/years to produce it yet to this day has not presented ANY of this secret ‘file’. I’m beginning to suspect he either has no secret file and is simply lying or knows the secret file is insubstantial and nonsensical to the extent that his charlatanry will be laughably exposed if he did unleash this secret ‘file’?

The truth is, he has nothing and the months/years of waiting proves it.

David Wood desperate + fobbing off a loyal financial donor

In the clip, Mr. Shamoun is put on the spot by his eager colleague Mr. Wood as he suggests the mysterious secret files should be presented on next month’s ABN ‘Jesus or Muhammad’ show but Mr. Shamoun dismisses this suggestion. Why? It’s obvious why; he has nothing and was simply fobbing the audience off in an effort to avoid apologizing for his past indiscretions (i.e. gullibly peddling lies).

Why was Mr. Wood so desperate to have the secret files put on show? Well, this man went onto the Google machine and found the SAME lies and ran with them as the charlatan he is. We rebuked him spectacularly and I guess his audience realized he is not the self-styled expert on Islam as he would want folk to believe – not exactly the ideal ingredient when you want folk to offer financial support to fund your lifestyle and activities, is it?

Finally, spare a thought for the betrayed and used Christians. The chap phoning into the show is a man whom I am familiar with, he has spent a number of dollars in funding Mr. Shamoun and Mr. Wood as well as offering time and other forms of support, yet he was simply fobbed off by Answering Islam’s Sam Shamoun via his ‘call my bluff’ style charade. A dishonest charade by anybody’s standard. I truly hope he asks for his cash back and resists their Wood’s/Shamoun’s future pleas for support; financial or otherwise. Talk about betraying and deceiving one of your own!

To this man, I invite you (as well as all concerned) to a relationship with the God whom Jesus worshipped (Allah). Would you like that? If yes, come to Islam and strive to become a brother of Jesus (Mark 3:35)

Peace be upon all the Prophets and Messengers of Allah. May Allah keep us secure against internet hoaxes/distortions and guide us all. Ameen.

Related

Tough Theological Questions Unanswered by the AnsweringIslam Crew

Mufakhathat - Thighing?

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  4. Sam, you are disgracing Christianity here. That fatwa doesn't tell us that the Prophet used to do this. It merely mentions a scholar's opinion that such foreplay is permissible between a husband and wife. Isn't Songs of Solomon filled with foreplay ? So where's the objection ?

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  7. Sam shamoun. Ur a scam. James white Don't support ur manner. Get a job. Stop being a waste man.

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  8. Sam shamoun ur mad cos u got exposed again. Y u always mad on these pages? Do u play gta?

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  10. Sam ur like a wild bore. Very disgusting. Y u talk so bad and mad?
    Do u eat macdonalds with ur donation money. I want to know Wat u spend ur donation dollars on. Do u buy new clothes or shoes

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    1. U admit u eat macdonalds with ur donation dollars?

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  19. New International Version
    "This is what the LORD says: 'Out of your own household I am going to bring calamity on you. Before your very eyes I will take your wives and give them to one who is close to you, and he will sleep with your wives in broad daylight.

    New Living Translation
    "This is what the LORD says: Because of what you have done, I will cause your own household to rebel against you. I will give your wives to another man before your very eyes, and he will go to bed with them in public view.

    English Standard Version
    Thus says the LORD, ‘Behold, I will raise up evil against you out of your own house. And I will take your wives before your eyes and give them to your neighbor, and he shall lie with your wives in the sight of this sun.

    New American Standard Bible
    "Thus says the LORD, 'Behold, I will raise up evil against you from your own household; I will even take your wives before your eyes and give them to your companion, and he will lie with your wives in broad daylight.

    King James Bible
    Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.

    Holman Christian Standard Bible
    This is what the LORD says, 'I am going to bring disaster on you from your own family: I will take your wives and give them to another before your very eyes, and he will sleep with them publicly.

    International Standard Version
    "This is what the LORD says: "'Listen very carefully! "'I'm raising up evil against you right out of your own household. "'I'm going to take your wives away from you right before your eyes. "'Then I'll give them to your neighbor. "'And then he's going to have sex with your wives in broad daylight!

    NET Bible
    This is what the LORD says: 'I am about to bring disaster on you from inside your own household! Right before your eyes I will take your wives and hand them over to your companion. He will have sexual relations with your wives in broad daylight!

    GOD'S WORD® Translation
    "This is what the LORD says: I will stir up trouble against you within your own household, and before your own eyes I will take your wives and give them to someone close to you. He will go to bed with your wives in broad daylight.

    Jubilee Bible 2000
    Thus hath the LORD said, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thy own house, and I will take thy wives before thy eyes and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.

    King James 2000 Bible
    Thus says the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against you out of your own house, and I will take your wives before your eyes, and give them unto your neighbor, and he shall lie with your wives in the sight of this sun.

    American King James Version
    Thus said the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against you out of your own house, and I will take your wives before your eyes, and give them to your neighbor, and he shall lie with your wives in the sight of this sun.

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  20. American Standard Version
    Thus saith Jehovah, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house; and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbor, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.

    Douay-Rheims Bible
    Thus saith the Lord: Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thy own house, and I will take thy wives before thy eyes and give them to thy neighhour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.

    Darby Bible Translation
    Thus saith Jehovah: Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.

    English Revised Version
    Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.

    Webster's Bible Translation
    Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thy own house, and I will take thy wives before thy eyes, and give them to thy neighbor, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.

    World English Bible
    "This is what Yahweh says: 'Behold, I will raise up evil against you out of your own house; and I will take your wives before your eyes, and give them to your neighbor, and he will lie with your wives in the sight of this sun.

    Young's Literal Translation
    thus said Jehovah, Lo, I am raising up against thee evil, out of thy house, and have taken thy wives before thine eyes, and given to thy neighbour, and he hath lain with thy wives before the eyes of this sun;

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  21. New International Version
    You did it in secret, but I will do this thing in broad daylight before all Israel.'"

    New Living Translation
    You did it secretly, but I will make this happen to you openly in the sight of all Israel."

    English Standard Version
    For you did it secretly, but I will do this thing before all Israel and before the sun.’”

    New American Standard Bible
    'Indeed you did it secretly, but I will do this thing before all Israel, and under the sun.'"

    King James Bible
    For thou didst it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun.

    Holman Christian Standard Bible
    You acted in secret, but I will do this before all Israel and in broad daylight.'"

    International Standard Version
    "'What you did in secret I'm going to do right in front of all Israel and in broad daylight as well!'"

    NET Bible
    Although you have acted in secret, I will do this thing before all Israel, and in broad daylight.'"

    GOD'S WORD® Translation
    You did this secretly, but I will make this happen in broad daylight in front of all Israel."

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  22. Jubilee Bible 2000
    For thou hast done it secretly, but I will do this thing before all Israel and before the sun.

    King James 2000 Bible
    For you did it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun.

    American King James Version
    For you did it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun.

    American Standard Version
    For thou didst it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun.

    Douay-Rheims Bible
    For thou didst it secretly: but I will do this thing in the sight of all Israel, and in the sight of the sun.

    Darby Bible Translation
    For thou didst [it] secretly; but I will do this thing before all Israel and before the sun.

    English Revised Version
    For thou didst it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun.

    Webster's Bible Translation
    For thou didst it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun.

    World English Bible
    For you did it secretly, but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun.'"

    Young's Literal Translation
    for thou hast done it in secret, and I do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun.'

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  35. Hi Sam please just stop.

    Why are you so full of rage?

    Please stop wasting your life with such rage.

    Please see:

    deenshow.com

    Peace

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