Tuesday, 31 August 2010

The Truth About the Thighing (Mufakhathat) Canard

The Mufakhathat (Thighing) Claim is a Deception
It is wise to make people aware of a fabrication (falsification) traversing the internet which states Islam allows Muslim men to gratify themselves sexually with pre-pubescent girls (even as young as 3 years of age) via a method known as mufakhafat (thighing).

This claim of theirs is errant nonsense. The early classical scholar, Hasan al-Basri (642 - 728 or 737 AD), has already made it known Islam does NOT allow Muslim men to approach prepubescent girls in a sexual fashion. [1]

As for the fabrication (falsified fatwa) on the internet; Ebrahim Saifuddin confirms the thighing claims are erroneous (“a fabricated lie”) and points out Christian missionaries made this malicious, untrue and vile allegation up. [2] Moreover Muhaddith.org inform us the falsified fatwa has ALREADY been commented upon by Saudi scholars and they have denounced it as a lie as well as informing us Islam does not allow such a sick practice. The Saudi scholars also confirm the Prophet Muhammad NEVER took part in such a practice, thus further denouncing and disproving the Christian missionary lies. [1]

I have appended a typical sample of the false claim to this article (see appendix 1).

Looking Stupid

I have recently come across two people parroting the false claims and using these fabrications in order to satisfy their anti-Muslim agenda – one of these individuals is a Christian tele-evangelist of ill-repute whilst the other is a member (Kevin Carroll) of a far right group named “English Defence League” (EDL). These people do not realise how unscholarly and silly they look when repeating such nonsense even though it does not take much in the way of research to realise the material they use is a fabrication (false).

Another Fabrication?

Alongside the “fatwa” fabrication there seems to be another fabrication of this nature attributed to Khomeini which is being circulated on the internet. I would like to state Khomeini is NOT seen as an authority and is seen as a deviant by recognised scholarly authorities. Nevertheless the quotes attributed to Khomeini are thought to be fabrications too.

The “book” where the alleged Komeini’s quotes were taken from ("Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990) does not seem to even exist! [3]. Alongside the alleged quotes of approving child-sex there are alleged quotes approving sex with animals [4]. Both are outrageously false allegations; Islam does not allow these depraved actions

Summary

Essentially, somebody/group of bodies made a malicious lie up about Islam and other Islamophobes have been propagating (spreading) it without checking for accuracy and truth.

The fact remains, Islam does not allow thighing (mufakhafat) of prepubescent girls. There are forgeries on the internet which are being used in a smear campaign against Muslims - be alert to these false and nasty claims.

Any feedback: send it to Yahya Snow at yahyasnow@hotmail.com

References
[1] http://www.muhaddith.org/islam_answers/earlymarriage-part2.doc

[2] http://ebrahimsaifuddin.wordpress.com/2007/05/15/mufakhathat-or-thighing/

[3] http://www.shiachat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/22934-kohmeinis-alleged-pedophile-qoute/

[4] http://yahyasnow.wordpress.com/2010/06/18/is-sex-with-animals-allowed-in-islam/

Appendix 1
Here is a typical sample of the falsehood we have discussed in this article (increase screen size to read it, it was shrunk for compaction purposes):


Regarding the practice of "thighing", the masterbating between the legs of a female infant or actually sodomizing her, Islamic clerics have this to say:

Pedophilia decrees from www.islamic-fatwa.net

Question 1809

After the permanent committee for the scientific research and fatwahs (religious decrees) reviewed the question forwarded by the grand scholar of the committee with reference number 1809 issued on 3/5/1453 and 7/5/1421 (Islamic calendar)

Question: ‘It has become widespread these days, and especially during weddings, the habit of mufa’khathat of the children. (mufa’khathat - literally translated, it means “placing between the thighs” which means placing the male member between the thighs of a child).

What is the opinion of scholars, knowing full well that the prophet, the peace of Allah be upon him, also practiced the “thighing” of Aisha - the mother of believers - may Allah be pleased with her ?

Answer: After studying the issue, the committee has answered as follows:

As for the prophet, his thighing his fiancée Aisha when she was six years of age and not able to consummate the relationship was due to her small age. That is why the Prophet used to place his male member between her thighs and massage it, as the prophet had control of his male member not like other men.

Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, The Supreme Leader of Iran, the Shia Grand Ayatollah, 1979-89 said in his official statements:

"A man can quench his sexual lusts with a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. Sodomizing the baby is halal (allowed by sharia). If the man penetrates and damages the child, then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however, does not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister. It is better for a girl to marry when her menstruation starts, and at her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven."

Khomeini, "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990

“It is not illegal for an adult male to 'thigh' or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his penis between her thighs, and to kiss her.”

Ayatu Allah Al Khumaini's "Tahrir Al wasila" p. 241, issue number 12

"Young boys or girls in full sexual effervescence are kept from getting married before they reach the legal age of majority. This is against the intention of divine laws. Why should the marriage of pubescent girls and boys be forbidden because they are still minors, when they are allowed to listen to the radio and to sexually arousing music?"

"The Little Green Book" "Sayings of the Ayatollah Khomeini", Bantam Books



Appendix 2
Ebrahim Saifuddin of IqraProductions exposes the thighing (mufa’khathat) lie:



More info can be obtained here:

http://ebrahimsaifuddin.wordpress.com/2007/05/15/mufakhathat-or-thighing/

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Anonymous said...

seriousely dude, my hand is hurting from copy and pasting my post nonstop and clicking!!!

dude why cant you just let it through?

how come you let those posts adressed to IBN through after you erased them a few times the first time around but you wont let the post adressed to you thorugh? that is low dude, you can only be a coward, scared of criticism

Anonymous said...

Both Ibn and Yahya:

A simple cursory search with the word “Muhammad” and “gay” will produce Many articles and websites accusing Muhammad of just this thing. I do not see a single refutation anywhere (besides Yahyas meager attempt).

I read your article on homosexuality in Islam Yahya. It does not address a single authentic hadith of Muhammad cross dressing in women’s clothes (regarded as homosexual activity). Simply saying “we all KNOW Islam doesn’t allow homosexuality” and quoting the words of later Islamic scholars doesn’t say anything about Muhammad and his cross dressing practices.

What if a Muslim with those particular sinful tendencies read those hadith (above) and started following the example of Muhammad? He would think it was OK because Muhammad did it and therefore it’s acceptable in Islam! It is very sad.

Remember, nobody said anything about committing the act of homosexuality, but about Muhammad cross dressing, which sure can be thought of as a form of homosexuality.

A woman must not wear men's clothing, nor a man wear women's clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this. Deuteronomy 22:5

Ibn said...

Anonymousing, you can't have it both ways. If you believe Muhammad(saw) practiced thiging with Aisha(ra), then you have a good reason not to believe that he was a homosexual. If you believe Muhammad(saw) was a homosexual, then you have no good reason to believe in the thighing incident. So which is it?

beowulf2k8 said...

As for the thighing crap, you sick freaks clearly base a lot of your religion off of the Talmud, which also allows such disgusting practices. You hate the Jews only because you are both so alike.

Anonymous said...

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Fatwa:_%22It_Is_Permissible_to_Have_Sexual_Intercourse_with_a_Prepubescent_Girl%22

Anonymous said...

Anonymous, I looked at the fatwa in Arabic. The text:

جواز نكاح البنت قبل البلوغ

was translated on the WikiIslam site as:

"permissible to have sexual intercourse with a prepubescent girl."

However, the Arabic used "nikah" in the above means to marry. I can give classical lexicons to prove this.


The fatwa presented details of other scholars that said:

"...scholars are of the opinion that the child bride who cannot endure intercourse SHOULD NOT be delivered to her husband UNTIL SHE GETS OLDER AND REACHES AN AGE WHERE SHE CAN ENDURE INTERCOURSE, even if the husband is wise and faithful, and has promised to not touch her, because perhaps an outburst of lust from within him could lead him to have sex with her and harm her."

Notice above, the Sheikh giving the fatwa has said scholars said sex should occur AFTER she reaches the age to be able to endure intercourse.

Are you seriously trying to tell me that the Sheikh would say that having sex with pre pubescent females is allowed, and then say that scholars are against this?

He wouldn't do that, if the Sheikh's position was that sex with pre pubescents are ok. Since that wasn't his position, that's why he told us that scholars said UNTIL she gets older, then they she have sex.

This is why you can never trust a kafir translator. If your still unsatisfied, try and contact the Sheikh, and ask him to explain himself. Even if he did mean sex while pre pubescent, your ignoring the majority scholars who said the contrary.

To beowulf2k8, the burden of proof rests on you to prove your assertion (from the Quran or 100,000's+ of ahadeeth we have), if your comment was directed at us Muslims.

Anonymous said...

The kafir will never succeed in defaming islam