That's the sound of inevitability
It is inevitable disingenuous Islamophobes are indeed going to give rise to a load of misconceptions. Sadly, Samar Gorial of ABN Sat was absolutely oblivious to rulings concerning Jizya despite having a bunch of “experts” as her colleagues. Why is this? Her colleagues consist of some of the most obnoxiously deceptive folk I have had the misfortune of encountering.
As an individual who investigates Christian outreaches to Muslims I can honestly say the outrage which I have witnessed from Samar Gorial’s colleagues and those who support the enterprise is even more debauched than Robert Morey’s fabrication of Ahadith literature.
Samar Gorial was devoid of any sound understanding of Jizyah as her primary teachers are agenda driven - an agenda which is demonization of Muslims. Thank God Muslims are on hand to clear away the bag of tricks, gags and heckles her colleagues of used for obfuscation purposes.
Why did Samar Gorial not know this?
Advice to sincere folk and Samar Gorial
If you want to learn about Islam please do not take the circus act that is the “ABN apologist” as an authority. Erm, one of them makes up his own Quran translation to convince us bestiality is Islamic, the other one peddles sex hoaxes and claims Muslims will chop off your limbs if you fix a church roof, another claims anal sex is Islamic, others claim to be ex terrorists even though nobody of Google-searching ability believes them. I need not go on – I think you get the picture. [For those interested further in these debauched characters then please search this blog or email me]
Robert Spencer Vs Imam Moustafa Zayed – Part 2
Robert Spencer was sniggering like a schoolboy whilst Sheikh Zayed was clearing up after the circus act.
Spencer has no reason to snigger. He has just been kicked across 400 pages by Sheikh Moustafa. I have the book and confirm this. Spencer and his pals should be ashamed as they allowed the lady to fall into obvious error.
Just like his book response, imam Zayed was shown to have more class and substance than Robert Spencer.
Robert Spencer would do well to look into “The lies about Muhammad – How you were deceived into Islamophobia”. I guess his arrogance and desire for repute and cash will prevent him; however, I could be wrong.
Paying Jizya is Biblical - Submission to Governing Authorities
Sadly Christians continue to throw their Bible under the bus and dispose every ounce of consistency whilst attacking a perfectly reasonable aspect of Islam. There is NOTHING wrong with Jizya – both Biblically and Islamically! We have already discussed this issue via a previous blog post and one by Jonathon (TGV19). For those who are interested further you can view the following pages:
Basics on Jizya
The Bible: Christians should pay Jizya tax and other taxes
PS I have quoted the entire “Submission to Governing Authorities section (Romans 13) in the comment section so the more discerning can check for context.
Now, that’s the way to do it – honesty. Sadly, honesty is found wanting when Islamophobes take the stage.
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Passage from Romans 13 - NIV:
Submission to Governing Authorities
1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.
6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
I don't know why Muslims even bother to participate on ABN shows. How is it any different from the AliG show or Borat? It is a bunch of charlatans ("experts" on Islam) who are trying to make their unsuspecting Muslim guests uncomfortable and thereby look bad.
As Allah says in the Quran, "And when you see those critical of Our revelations holding a, fault - finding and censorious, discourse on the subject, you just avoid them and do not keep company with them until they have changed the subject and virtue and wisdom no longer sit in want. Should Al-Shaytan make you forget, then collect your spirits, thoughts and mind and sit no longer with the wrongful of actions." (Surah 6:68)
The whole premise of ABN is based on hatred and Kufr. It is not a show that is interested in the truth. As such, we Muslims should refuse to be anywhere near their filth.
Psalms
This book contains 150 psalms which form the hymnal of Israel. The Abrahamic Faith tradition states that David had received the Psalms. Although the Quran does state the Prophet David peace be upon him had gotten the Psalms in Quran4:163, the the Islamic stance is that the Psalms were altered and changed after the death of King David. With that being said, let’s look deeper into the Pslams.
The word "psalm" means "praise", and is derived from Greek. They address all aspects of the human condition. Prophet David lived around 1000 B.C. but we know that the Psalms were put together much later in the post-exilic period, that is after 539 B.C or 586 B.C. The Book of Psalms consists of five collections of hymns, mostly written for use in the second temple (the temple of Zerubbabel). Through the writings of Prophet David could be here and there in the Psalms, However most of the psalms were post exilian (after the life of Prophet David).
Since the Psalms were not written down in Hebrew before the 6th century BCE, nearly half a millennium after Prophet David's reign (about 1000 BCE), they doubtless depended on oral or hymnic tradition for transmission of any Davidic material. A lot of the Psalms seem to praising some highly idealized monarch, and seem to be honoring one of the Hasmanean Kings in 142-63 B.C.
Actual authorship of most of the Pslams is mostly unknown.The book of Psalms was finished being written between 400 and 200 CE around 570 to 770 years after the death of Prophet David
So let me answer all three of these claims. Here I'll quickly debunk these three myths of the New Testament.
1) Just Because something is early doesn't mean its reliable. It has to be early and Reliable. It's possible that something is early and false. Yes, the Gospels of the New Testament are early but they are not reliable. Yes Paul is early but he is not reliable. Read the Homer Epics and the Gospel of Mark by Dennis MacDonald, or Gospel Fictions by Randel Helms, the N.T. is based off unreliable oral traditions and legends with no basis in History.
2) The Gospels are NOT eyewitness accounts. For example see Luke 1:1-2. Most Biblical Scholars agree, the N.T. Gospels are not eye witnesses accounts, rather they were written by second generation believers in the late 1st century. ... The Gospels are not historically reliable accounts. The authors were not eye witnesses to Jesus minstry. They were Greek speaking Christiansliving 35-65 years after Jesus left the earth. The accounts they narrate are based on oral traditions of the time, which are not entirely reliable.
3) If we throw out Joesphus and Taticus, (which there are good reasons to do so) there is no outside evidence for Jesus death and resurrection.
Spencer is good. Spred the truth spence, spread it!
Watch the whole thing.
Al Qaeda is consistent with the Quran.
Have a good day.
Anonymous:Spencer is good. Spred the truth spence, spread it!Watch the whole thing.Al Qaeda is consistent with the Quran.Have a good day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
hey anonymous visit loonwatch. stupid spencer refuses to deabte them lol
There are 2 anonymous,but different persons,different opinions.But about ROM 13:1-7 Paul was writing POSITIVELY about the Roman governement because it was the 50's.
Till 95 AD(Domitian persecution)the Romans thought the Christians were a JEWISH GROUP(like the Essenians,Saducees,Pharisees).The Jews were exempt from offering incense to a statue of the Emperor(it was idolatry).So were the Messianics,er,Christians.
Jesus said:"Be SLY as snakes,innocent as doves".Be good but not stupid.One has the right to use methods(like non-violent resistance)(read my last comment about Mcarthur)to fight injustice,even not paying taxes to an injust system(apartheid government,fascist,etc).
Paul wrote ROM 13:1-7 where it says to obey them,but if the Romans had said:"Offer incense to Ceaser's statue or die" he would have chosen death. For example we have the members of the WHITE ROSE,most of who were true Christian believers,university students,who spread info that the Germans had killed countless Jews.They were executed.The most famous member was SOPHIE SCHOLL(21)who has 200 schools named after her in Germany.
Minoria:
How easy Christians twist their Holy texts. Please show some respect for your Book.
Let EVERYONE be subject to the governing authorities, for THERE IS NO authority EXCEPT that which God has established.
The words in upper case are general, by no means these words could mean only the 50's.
Hello 1moremuslim:
A further clarification.In 64 AD there was a persectution of the Christians by NERO,because 50% of Rome had been burned in a fire.People were saying he was responsible and he threw the blame on the Christians,and PETER and PAUL were killed.
In 95 AD there was one by emperor DOMITIAN who thought he was a GOD(he wanted all to recognize him as "lord and god").
1moremuslim the way anybody's books are analyzed (be it Spinoza,Satre,Aristotle,Plato,Paul,etc)is they determine the PRINCIPAL IDEAS and the secondary ideas.We know from Paul's letters he was against idolatry,for example,and for him serving God was first.
Paul's ideas about GOVERNMENT are secondary,he was no political theorist like Marx,Campanella,Machiavelli,etc.It was not his main interest.
SO?
So his political passages have to be interpreted in accordance with his real interest(theology).That is why we know he was talking about the situation in 55 AD and that those passages are valid if X government is reasonably in accord with morality.
DIETRICH BONHOEFFER
He,like Sophie Scholl,Stauffenberg,the White Rose,is a hero in Germany.He was a pastor who was part of a conspiracy to kill Hitler in order to STOP the war that had already killed millions and to PREVENT more millions from being killed.He was captured and executed.He understood what Paul's ideas were.
@ the anonymous who said alqaeda is consistent with Islam
I have just posted a video of an expert teaching Islam has nothing to do with alqaida.
Furthermore the show was not about alqaeda so I guess you never watched the show either
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