Nabeel Qureshi and David Wood to take Reinforcements with them to ISNA (Islamic Society of North America), Chicago
The controversial pair caused great unrest and speculation after being arrested last week at the Arab Festival in Dearborn under the charge of disorderly conduct. (See appendix 1)
This group, in their attempt to court publicity, is fast becoming a nuisance group for security and police officers. You would think they would have given ISNA a miss after their latest shameful episode in Dearborn but this group has no parameters when it comes to shame and here they are preparing to go to ISNA with their cameras in tow looking for further misadventure.
A Big Twist: They are Taking Reinforcements this Time
What type of reinforcements? Well they are claiming to act under the guise of the “Gospel” so are they taking free copies of the Bible as their “reinforcement”? No, they are taking the Muslim-abusing-machine, that is none other than Sam “Islam allows sex with animals” Shamoun! (see appendix 2)
For those who don’t know Sam Shamoun you are well advised to view the dumpster section at AnsweringChrisitanity (appendix 2), Sam Shamoun’s venomous tongue is infamous
I guess the mantra will be; “hey Muslims, if you don’t convert we shall unleash Sam Shamoun to abuse you and your faith”
Or
“if you don’t allow us in to cause a nuisance we will get our buddy Sam Shamoun to make up his own translations of the Quran to make you Muslims seem debauched and depraved”
Perhaps more aptly for Wood and his attention-seeking crew:
“Sam Shamoun’s infamous verbal assaults will be unleashed if you don’t provide us with controversial footage”
We Never Pay Our Own Bills
Yes, you guessed it; David Wood and co are looking for you, the penniless reader, to pay for this attention-hunting misadventure. Have they not heard about a global recession?
Gullibility runs wild within fundamentalist groups so those who threw their cash (a staggering $1100) at David Wood in order to send him all the way to Dearborn to satisfy his lust to re-enact a scene from the A-team will be opening their wallets to send the boys off to “save” the Muslims at ISNA.
Ignorance is Bliss
In their previous e-begging episode prior to Dearborn they not only wanted you to buy them plane tickets but also contribute to the expense of a camera. Since when were cameras essential in preaching the Gospel?
The truth is David Wood and co don’t really do this for the “Gospel”, they do it for publicity and thrill-seeking. Sounds like middle-aged thrill-seeking rather than preaching to me:
“Muslims have threatened us with death if we return to the festival, so now we definitely have to show up”
Of course we are talking about people who will donate to David Wood and co simply out of sheer naivety and/or hatred for Muslims.
You Cannot be Serious (About Evangelism)
John McEnroe’s outrage at shoddy line calls led to such rhetorical statements of disbelief. We are in a state of shock; we have David Wood and his trusted side-kick Nabeel Qureshi begging for our cash again under the guise of the “Gospel”. We smell a rat.
If they were serious about preaching Christianity then why would they want to travel all the way to ISNA (Chicago) to “save” people when New York and Virginia (their localities) are full of the great “unsaved”? Why bypass and even ignore all these “unsaved” people on your doorstep in favour of Muslims in Chicago?
New York recently had a gay pride rally; where was the hero of “evangelism”, David Wood? Perhaps David Wood and Nabeel Qureshi are liberal and believe the gay lifestyle is fine. In that case, what about all the Atheists in their locality? Why ignore these “unsaved” people in favour of Muslims, something smells like publicity.
You Cannot be Serious: Whose Decision was it to take the Paragon of Unholy to ISNA?
If they were serious about evangelism they would not be taking the proverbial “albatross around the neck” (Sam Shamoun).Sam Shamoun is dead weight in the business of evangelism as his infamous reputation precedes him and only serves to repulse Muslims from his message, in fact people come to Islam BECAUSE of this man!
Camera Tricks
If they were serious about evangelism then they would not be making camera priority equipment for this mission of “evangelism”. When I go out to preach the “Word” I don’t take a camera, I’m not sure why Wood and co need to buy a $500 camera specifically for this event, I smell publicity.
“Please support our trip via PayPal. We'll be sure to get plenty of video footage (yes, I actually had to spend $500 to purchase a new camera”
Now, $500 could have been better spent, but Wood needs to get footage for his blog; a blog which he openly admits is not designed for evangelism but intent on “warning” people about Islam.
Still convinced it is about the Church and not about publicity, sensationalism and misadventure? The gullibility of some will never cease to amaze me. That same gullibility chimed well with Ted Haggard, Ergun Caner, Jimmy Swaggert, Benny Hinn and co.
Nobody Wants anything to Do with these Guys
Here is a Muslim commentator, reflecting Muslim distrust regarding everything to do with David Wood and his pals:
“I hope those Muslims who are attending this event will bring their own cameras and record all of the thuggery perpetrated by Wood and his groupies in the name of peaceful debate. Since that foul mouth Sam Shamoun is accompanying them, you can expect anything but peace from their side”
Even Christians who are serious about evangelism don’t trust David Wood and his Acts17Apologetics team:
“The Rev. Haytham Abi Haydar, a Christian evangelical convert from Islam with Arabic Alliance Church in Dearborn, said that a Christian group called Acts 17 Apologetics caused the problems at this year’s Arab festival.
They put cameras in their faces and were very antagonistic,” Abi Haydar said of the group that produced the controversial video that has drawn almost 1.4 million views on YouTube.
Nobody with any foresight wants David Wood, Sam Shamoun and Nabeel Qureshi there but for some reason we can guaranty this group will invite itself along with its cameras; real party poopers looking for somebody to satisfy their cravings for attention. The cops obliged in Dearborn, I wonder who will extend them the same courtesy in Chicago (ISNA).
Sam Shamoun’s Last Chance Saloon
It is interesting this man is taking a break from trawling the internet and abusing Muslims (for a few days, at least), thank god for small mercies. Why the shift in Shamoun’s pattern of behaviour?
Sam Shamoun seems to have schemes of his own in place. Rest assured Sam Shamoun is not simply being dragged all the way to Chicago due to a misdirected pang of altruism. Sam Shamoun has been lacking in the department of serious attention for a good while. A reality expressed by Jonathon Dupree:
“This is your legacy Sam. We all note that you didn't have a debate partner in Michigan recently though it was advertised for months that you would. I am sure that left you feeling hollow”
Essentially Dupree, within the subtext, is pointing to the lack of regard in which Shamoun is held within his field by his peers and counterparts, thus this naturally reflects the volume of attention Shamoun gets; which has steadily been on the decline for quite some time
Sam Shamoun seems to be a fallen star within apologetics and in order to “re-establish” himself as worthy of consideration; Shamoun has taken to the route of shameless publicity seeking under the auspices of David Wood.
Shamoun is desperate to debate a Muslim, no Muslim will touch this man with a 20ft barge pole (despite being willing to debate serious apologists such as Tony Costa) so Shamoun reckons a spot of infamy with David Wood and co will remedy the embarrassing shunning he is suffering from, how despairing!
Nabeel Qureshi
Well, Nabeel has never been his own man. David Wood has moulded Nabeel Qureshi into a carbon copy of himself. Qureshi strikes me as a person who strives not to disagree with Wood; this seems to be evident in Qureshi staying in the debate arena at the “insistence” of David Wood. Even after marriage, Qureshi serves David Wood loyally; instead of spending time with his new wife he trounces off to Dearborn and spends a night in Dearborn City Jail with David Wood.
Sometimes a man has to do what a man has to do, Nabeel
Antonio Santana
Sadly, my friend Antonio will be going along with them. Antonio in my view is sincere; he has completed his Pastoral studies, thus seems sincere in preaching Christianity.
I pray David Wood’s antics do not get this young man in hot water
Negeen Mayel
She seems to be staying well away from the misguided influences of David Wood. Good decision, after all Wood dragged her to a Festival which saw a woman assaulted the year before. What does our chivalrous friend David Wood do? He drags 18 year old Negeen Mayel to Dearborn to hold a camera in such a hostile, death threat-ridden environment. Way to go David, you really have this girl’s best interests at heart!
Muslims at ISNA
They should simply ignore the attention fuelled blokes from Acts17Apologetics
The Church is Being Undermined yet Again
Christians have a long and convoluted history of undermining and even doing away with the teachings of Jesus
For some reason it is the great “unsaved” who are the first to notice harm to the Church. “Christians” monetise pretty much everything and so many of those claiming to be acting for the Church value themselves greater than the message they purport to deliver and engender
These antics of courting publicity, self-aggrandizement and “donations” under the false pretence of the “Gospel” never go down well with the natives, thus only acts as a recruiting sergeant for Atheism and other world views (including Islam)
The worldly-wise pity the poor Christians and their gullibility as David Wood beats his chest proclaiming himself to be like the Apostles to rapturous applause (and sprinklings of dollar bills) from Christian cheerleaders looking on at their new found evangelical hero; a fast track to Atheism.
“The Church of England never sleeps in its efforts to chuck away its own heritage and abandon the principles of Christianity” (Peter Hitchens)
Appendices
Appendix 1
Breaking news, answeringmuslims team arrested in Dearborn, International Arab Festival:
http://yahyasnow.wordpress.com/2010/06/19/christians-arrested-at-the-arab-festival-dearborn/
Appendix 2
Interesting section (appropriately and rather ominously entitled the “dumpster section”) which catalogues some of Sam Shamoun’s hazardous comments:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/dumpster_section.htm
Appendix 3
Sam Shamoun asked to stand down:
http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.com/2010/04/open-letter-to-answeringislam.html
LATEST: Shamoun's LATEST outrageous remarks in audio form:
http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.com/2010/07/sam-shamouns-foul-mouth-continues-with.html
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Yahya, another child of satan came into my room recording me blasting him for insulting our faith. He said he was going to send you the recording. YOU BETTER MAKE SURE YOU POST HIS COMMENT WHICH CAUSED ME TO BLAST HIM AND YOUR WICKED GOD FOR CREATING PEOPLE LIKE YOU:
liverpool_28: and y do some xtians worship penis prepuce?
Anytime you children of Satan come in and blaspheme our God this way we will let you have it. It is time for you and people like you, which includes liverpool, to step down since you are a cancer to society and harmful to human life.
BTW, here is the link to the filthy language of your fellow Muslim liars and deceivers:
http://answering-islam.org/Responses/Osama/zawadi_puberty3.htm
Make sure you post this as well if not I WILL MAKE SURE TO POST ALL OF THIS FOR YOU. Now prove to the world you are truly seeking truth by reporting the facts.
And still waiting for you to stop with your cowardice and face me in a debate. Put up or shut up since you cowering away only disgraces and discredits you.
If I had the chance to go to this ISNA event I'd go right up to David, Nabeel and whoever else and chalenege them to a debate. These people hate being corrected. And I'd love to meet this Sam boy. Show him Philippians 1:18 where lying, cheating and decieving for Christ is fully approved.
I laugh at his comments. He calls us all children of Satan, he calls God wicked etc. Christians like him are found all over (see my youtube account. Christians are always spamming up my inbox and comment section).
Sam, what are you talking about?
PS, have you read the comments about you going to ISNA in this post?
Womenoftruth, you have more guts than Yahya since he will not debate us and for that I give you respect.
Yahya, I am talking about a little Muslim punk who came to a Paltlak room and insulted our Lord which led me to talk about your god's fascination with swelling breasts and women's vulvas/vaginas as recorded in Q. 78:33 and 66:12. He said he had me recorded me and was going to send it you in order to "expose" me. I told him that he better mention why I insulted his religion, namely because he blasphemed our Lord. Here it is again:
liverpool_28: and y do some xtians worship penis prepuce?
So Yahya, does this mean that you worship a black stone just because you kiss and lick it? Does this mean that your god is in love with breasts and vaginas because he talks about it? And are you ok with Allah talking Muslim women like, whether your mothers, sisters etc. and turning them into heavenly houris whom will be raped by Muslim men for all eternity? And does this mean that they too will have firm breasts so that Muslim men can stuff their faces in them much like your god?
You get the point. You need to tell your Muslim cronies that they better start heeding the advice of Q. 6:108 which forbids Muslims from insulting people's gods otherwise they will have their false god insulted and humiliated.
So now prove to me you are consistent and chide that little Muslim street thug for instigating a problem with me and other Christians. I already have one Christian ready to post a youtube response just in case you decide to post his recording which I am sure will be edited, leaving out salient parts which incriminates the Muslims and demonstrates why I said what I said.
AS for me I would ask a Muslim more about politics than anything else.To have a polite discussion,filmed.There is a French-language website called oumma.com.
I have read it for several months.They are selective.They say they are for human rights,against terrorism.But when MOSAB YOUSEF the son of one of the 7 founders of Hamas who worked against Hamas for TEN years,with Israeli intelligence,and saved hundreds of lives from terrorist bombs,went public,oumma.com never,from what I have read in the website,ever mention it.
You don't see it either in Paul William's blog.Instead in oumma.com and the other blog you saw many indignant articles about the ban on the burka.
What is more important?I don't say NOT to write about the burka but it is MORE important to tell Muslims Hamas is evil and to PRAISE those who are Arab-Palestinian and who have combatted it.
@minoria,
I'm surprised Williams has not blogged about it...maybe he will in the future, inshaAllah
I don't really read much about Hamas thus I dont like talking about them. However I denounce attacks on Israeli civilians and suicide bombers.
@sam shamoun
Please stop with your disrespectful comments,btw I have heard what you said yesterday...you should hang your head in shame; absolute vile came out of your mouth :(
Yahya, if anyone that needs to hang their head in shame it is Muslim thugs like you. Notice you said absolutely nothing about that Muslim street thug saying that we worship a penis prepuce since you are not interested in honesty or integrity. If you were you would scold him and rebuke him for mocking other people's faith. You would also be ashamed of Muhammad and his god for speaking of swelling breasts and vaginas, as well as breaking the hymens of the whores of paradise. You would be disgusted at Abu Bakr telling a pagan to kiss the clitoris of allat:
… Then ‘Urwah said: “Muhammad, tell me: if you extirpate your tribesmen, have you ever heard of any of the Arabs who destroyed his own race before you? And if the contrary comes to pass, by God I see both prominent people and rabble who are likely to flee and leave you.” Abu Bakr said, “Go suck the clitoris of al-Lat!” – al-Lat was the idol of Thaqif, which they used to worship – “Would we flee and leave him?” … (The History of al-Tabari – The Victory of Islam, translated by Michael Fishbein [State University of New York Press (SUNY), Albany 1997], Volume VIII (8), p. 76; bold and underline emphasis ours)
So are you comfortable with Allah stuffing your faces in the swelling breasts of the whores of paradise? Are you comfortable with Allah taking your mother, sister, wife etc. and turning them into these heavenly houris with swelling breasts for Muslim perverts like you to deflower for all eternity, you sick human being?
But you have no shame since you are a cancer on human society. This is why you are too much of a coward to face me in a debate so I can expose your inconsistency, dishonesty and cowardice for all to see. Are you willing to prove me wrong by accepting to debate me on the filthy language used by your wicked god and his false prophet? You backed down from debating me on your god worshiping and repenting maybe you will muster the courage to accept this challenge.
And I must say shame on you for being the hypocrite that you are. But don't worry I will bring all of this out much like I did when I exposed the other Muslim street thugs for blaspheming, ridiculing, mocking and insulting my faith, all the while playing the innocent victims: http://answering-islam.org/Responses/Osama/zawadi_puberty3.htm
Like I said, anytime you vile human beings insult our God we will give you a taste of your own medicine. For once follow the teachings of your false prophet and stop insulting other people's faith (cf. Q. 6:108).
Minerie, he said he was a 16 year old Muslim in the room. That is how we know. There are several people who know him and were there.
In fact, he just challenged my friend named Blind Bartimeus on Paltalk to debate on the Deity of Jesus. He even says that Nadir is his hero, the same Nadir who wrote the following:
From :
Reply-To : nadir@examinethetruth.com
Sent : Thursday, September 7, 2006 12:50 AM
To : Osama Abdallah , IslamLife , orthodox786@hotmail.com, omer moh , ahsen@amalik.com, b_zawadi@hotmail.com, sami-zaatari@hotmail.com
Subject : osama watch your back
Osama, you fucking kaffir.. how dare you insult our Prophet(P) by saying he has a mental disease wallahi, if I ever meet you on the street.... youre done.... and it WILL happen. watch your back. and as for your gay lover Saami, the fact that you support this piece of shit osama.. the same holds true for you. I have ways and means... I promise u. I have made a screen shot of your defamation of our Prophet(P), so you dont try to hide your kuffar. Thanks, Nadir Ahmed www.ExamineTheTruth.com
The same Nadir who said that Allah cursed Shabir by giving him a blind son: http://www.answeringmuslims.com/search/label/Nadir%20Ahmed
There is a lot more of this in my article here: http://answering-islam.org/Responses/Osama/zawadi_puberty3.htm
You see that kind of vile scum these Muslim thugs truly are? I hope Yahya will address them, otherwise I am going to expose him for ignoring these vile Muslims and their insults.
Moreover, you are either lying to me or are ignorant about how Muslims speak about Jesus. Just go and see the debate with Sami Zaatari and James White where Sami speaks of Jesus our God coming out of a woman's vagina. I know why Sami speaks of vaginas because your god does so as well as I document here:
http://answering-islam.org/Shamoun/virginalconception.htm
I have more examples if you are interested. So please don't give me that lie that Muslims respect Jesus. Many don't even though they are supposed to.
Mirele,
I have heard the footage and the reason why Sam Shamoun is here is to present "mitigating" material for his vile insults (i will try to post the audio if I get time)
This intimates Shamoun's desperation and tacit admission of guilt. Trust me Shamoun's words are debauched to an extreme...sadly for him he does not havethe excuse of age or time as this happened yesterday and Shamoun is in his 40s
As for other people Shamoun mentions, I don't know why he mentions them, I denounce any harsh language attributed to them
Sam, aren't you supposed to be the one with God inside you, whilst Muslims are the unsaved?
If that is your belief then why in the world are you abusing 16yr old kids on the net?
PS...give ISNA a miss, Sam...you are not in the right frame of mind for decent dialogue
Have a long hard think:
http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.com/2010/04/open-letter-to-answeringislam.html
Wow, what an honest person you are! You just deleted my entire post where I exposed your inconsistency and hypocrisy by showing you what happens when we apply your own criticism to the teachings and actions of your prophet. Even though I am not surprised at your actions I still need to say, shame on you for your dishonesty and hypocrisy.
BTW, since you have a problem with rebuking and scolding young teenage Muslim street thug what do you do with Muhammad who had the young boys of Banu Qurayza beheaded?
The Messenger of God had commanded that all of them who had reached puberty should be killed. (The History of Al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam, translated by Michael Fishbein [State University of New York Press (SUNY), Albany 1997], Volume VIII, p. 38)
Another source tells us how they determined whether a person had reached puberty:
Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 38, Number 4390: http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/abudawud/038.sat.html#038.4390)
Muhammad considered them mature enough to be beheaded solely because they had pubic hairs?
Surely you will stand with me and condemn this false prophet for such barbarous actions since many of these kids were younger than 16!
But let me guess, you are going to delete this post as well. This is what those who are too afraid and know that they do not have the intellectual capacity to defend such to wicked and vile beliefs do. They take the easy and cowardly way out.
BTW, I am still waiting for you to harshly rebuke that young Muslim thug for saying that we Christians worship penis prepuce.
Sam, I deleted your comment as you were getting out of control and I was also giving you a PRACTICAL example of how to deal with people who are saying offending words...you can remove them...you DON'T have to ABUSE them like you did
Bye
Hello Yahya:
I commend you on denouncing the suicide bombers.It is rare for a Muslim leader in the West to denounce them by name.Often there is the denouncing of "terrorists" and "terrorism" without saying WHO it is.
You have heard of the TU QUOQUE(you also)idea.Now I know Israel has its share of guilt but less that Hamas.The point is even if Israel,or Japan,or any country were to kill 100,000 innocents that does NOT justify that the OTHER side kill 100,000 of their innocents.It would be a betrayal,moral bankrupcy.
I found the youth's remark to be quite necessary yet entertaining.He's more than right. Why are there some Christians that enjoin divinity with Jesus's body parts, including the prepuce?
AUDIO OF SAM'S COMMENTS:
http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.com/2010/07/sam-shamouns-foul-mouth-continues-with.html
29 Then Joshua and all Israel with him moved on from Makkedah to Libnah and attacked it. 30 The LORD also gave that city and its king into Israel's hand. The city and everyone in it Joshua put to the sword. He left no survivors there. And he did to its king as he had done to the king of Jericho.
31 Then Joshua and all Israel with him moved on from Libnah to Lachish; he took up positions against it and attacked it. 32 The LORD handed Lachish over to Israel, and Joshua took it on the second day. The city and everyone in it he put to the sword, just as he had done to Libnah. 33 Meanwhile, Horam king of Gezer had come up to help Lachish, but Joshua defeated him and his army—until no survivors were left.
34 Then Joshua and all Israel with him moved on from Lachish to Eglon; they took up positions against it and attacked it. 35 They captured it that same day and put it to the sword and totally destroyed everyone in it, just as they had done to Lachish.
36 Then Joshua and all Israel with him went up from Eglon to Hebron and attacked it. 37 They took the city and put it to the sword, together with its king, its villages and everyone in it. They left no survivors. Just as at Eglon, they totally destroyed it and everyone in it.
38 Then Joshua and all Israel with him turned around and attacked Debir. 39 They took the city, its king and its villages, and put them to the sword. Everyone in it they totally destroyed. They left no survivors. They did to Debir and its king as they had done to Libnah and its king and to Hebron.
40 So Joshua subdued the whole region, including the hill country, the Negev, the western foothills and the mountain slopes, together with all their kings. He left no survivors. He totally destroyed all who breathed, just as the LORD, the God of Israel, had commanded. (Josh. 10:29-40)
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