A retired bishop (John Shelby Spong) who believes Paul was a repressed homosexual. Liberalism is splitting the church and seems to be winning.
Bishop Believes Paul of Tarsus was a Repressed Homosexual
Who is Bishop John Shelby Spong?
John Shelby "Jack" Spong (born June 16, 1931) is a retired American bishop of the Episcopal Church. He was formerly the Bishop of Newark (based in Newark, New Jersey). He is a liberal Christian theologian, religion commentator and author. He calls for a fundamental rethinking of Christian belief away from theism and from traditional doctrines. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Spong#cite_note-ABC1-0]
Uncomfortable Conservative Wriggling at Gay Theory
Conservative Christian, James White, looks visibly uncomfortable whilst Bishop John Shelby Spong presents his personal views on Paul. Speaking of Christians infuriating Muslims by distorting the Bible to reflect their liberal views; Christians have began to reject the clear hand-chopping ruling within Deuteronomy by absurdly using personal reinterpretation to interpret it as meaning chopping off pubic hair rather than the hand!
Was Paul gay? No.
There is no evidence of Paul being homosexual (gay). The bishop, John Shelby Spong, simply churns out his personal interpretations of the Bible and comes to the liberal belief that Paul was a homosexual. His views are unfounded and simply reflect his fanciful mind. We must remember this is simply he opinion of the bishop.
Perhaps the bigoted Christians who busy themselves in propagandizing against Muslims and Islam would like to spend time in refuting the liberal falsehoods emanating from churches…or do they not mind as long as these falsehoods catch fish for the church?
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good writing.bishop is wrong
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I can say only WOW!!! But I don’t blame him, I mean if Keithtruth can find trinity in OT why he can’t find homo in hole Bible?! This people just don’t have any limits. Lol
I don't know how I missed this one. Just when I think that snowman can not possibly get any dumber, he comes up with this. Snowman once again you have out done yourself.
You wrote….
"Conservative Christian, James White, looks visibly uncomfortable whilst Bishop John Shelby Spong presents his personal views on Paul. "
Yes he was, as was I. I wonder how you would look if either a homosexual or supporter of homosexuals tried to use your Quran to support their homosexual agenda? Like any of these so called Muslim groups.
LGBTQI Muslim Support Group
Some Muslim Gay Rights Groups
Or Muslim congressmen Keith Ellison who has voted YES on every homosexual agenda.
You also wrote…
"The irony is that this bishop uses personal interpretations of the Bible, similar to the conservative Christians ".
Really, are you serious? Lets take a look at what Mr Spong said in the video.
At 4:53 Mr Spong says "Well I think you have to learn to play with the scriptures in a little more flexible manner then you seem able to"
At 6:45 Mr Spong says "See I don’t see the bible as the word of God…."
Can you demonstrate where Dr White a conservative Christian or any conservative Christian believes the things or approaches the bible in the same way that Mr spong does.
Your then continue on…
"who reject hijab (head covering) despite it being a clear teaching of the New Testament – these personal reinterpretations infuriate Muslims. "
Really can you show me where in the bible woman are commanded to wear the HIJAB? It seems to me you are reading your OWN personal opinions into the bible when you come up with that nonsense.
You then continue on with your nonsense…
"Speaking of Christians infuriating Muslims by distorting the Bible to reflect their liberal views; Christians have began to reject the clear hand-chopping ruling within Deuteronomy by absurdly using personal reinterpretation to interpret it as meaning chopping off pubic hair rather than the hand!"
Again REALLY. So Dr White rejects that and says it means Pubic Hair? I have no idea who Dr Paul Copan is nor do I accept his ridiculous claim. On what grounds do you base that he is a "conservative Christian"?
You then conclude with…
"Perhaps the bigoted Christians who busy themselves in propagandizing against Muslims and Islam would like to spend time in refuting the liberal falsehoods emanating from churches…or do they not mind as long as these falsehoods catch fish for the church?"
So you post a video where a Conservative Christian Dr James White, is refuting a Heretic Mr Spong, and then suggest that Christians should spend time refuting men like these.
But isnt that what Dr White was doing in the video? Scratch head on that one.
Snowman all though I enjoy laughing at you and your clique I have to ask please try to come up with something better.
The only thing that infuriates Muslims is the clear teaching of the bible of the perfect blood attoning sacrafice of Jesus Christ. The only way you can be saved.
"The only thing that infuriates Muslims is the clear teaching of the bible of the perfect blood attoning sacrafice of Jesus Christ. The only way you can be saved"
Hmm no I believe what infuriates us Muslims is that a sane human being could possibly believe that Zeus had to come down from mount Olympus, turn into Apollo, hang from the cross half naked and die for a “nation” of filthy, degenerate, vile swines which label themselves “Christians”. Indulging in every sin unabashedly condemned by the bible and putting it all on the poor uncle Jessie’s (jesus) card. Ah indeed this is the Girls Gone Wild brand of christianty, if not poor uncle Jessie, who else can redeem such perversity in the sight of God! Even if we perform the most wildest gymnastics of intellect and read the old testament while under the influence of psychedelics, We could not come to the conclusion that God is a triune God, but you, blessed by the unholy ghost see black where its white, see night where its day, see lie where its truth and truth where its evident lie. I am truly amazed at you Christians, and your so called religion, the mind truly balks at the profanity of it all! Your beliefs, your customs, your propensity to commit whole sale genocide for generations, (native Americans, black Africans, aboriginals, Vietnamese, Koreans, Muslims etc etc) while still having the balls to label others as terrorists. While adhering to a religion which by itself is probably the greatest facilitator to atheism, a religion which finds itself as a sore thumb, neither belonging to Judaism, nor Islam, by the sheer virtue of it being a pagan polytheistic, dogmatic rag of lies. For while the religion before it believed in one God, and the religion after it believes in one God, it has the need to create a whole new image for God, a sick, demented, nonsensical trinity, where the Father sends the son down to the earth, yet the son IS the father,(don’t dare deny this, because you claim jesus to be GOD! THE creator of the universe) where this god impregnates his own mother to give birth to himself(oh yes holy spirit is god also, but no different is he than jesus, it gets better folks!), where the son bows down to pray to the father, yet ahem..he is the true lving god HIMSELF…oh logic where art thou! LOL. Cheers
@ANON who wrote...
"Hmm no I believe what infuriates us Muslims is that a sane human being could possibly believe that Zeus had to come down from mount Olympus, turn into Apollo, hang from the cross half naked and die for a “nation” of filthy, degenerate, vile swines which label themselves “Christians”. "
Putting aside the nonsense about Zeus and appolo, I think you proved my point.
THe cross is the stench of death in your nostrils. You are repulsed by it.
Do you know why?
hey anon peace be upon you,
you:
Hmm no I believe what infuriates us Muslims is that a sane human being could possibly believe that Zeus had to come down from mount Olympus, turn into Apollo, hang from the cross half naked and die for a “nation” of filthy, degenerate, vile swines which label themselves “Christians”.
me:
you believe that muhammad flew to jerusalem and heaven in one night, and had a bargain with god on how many times muslims should pray. i dont, but i will never insult your beliefs.
you:
yet the son IS the father,(don’t dare deny this, because you claim jesus to be GOD! THE creator of the universe) where this god impregnates his own mother to give birth to himself(oh yes holy spirit is god also, but no different is he than jesus, it gets better folks!), where the son bows down to pray to the father, yet ahem..he is the true lving god HIMSELF…oh logic where art thou! LOL. Cheers
me:
muslims also believe in the virgin birth, and i have heard that the word "rahul quds" or "holy spirit" in the quran reffers to the angel jibreel. are you making a mockery against your own scripture?
read the quran and learn to argue like a civil human being:
"Invite (people) to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good counsel. And argue with them in the best of manners. Surely, your Lord knows best the one who deviates from His way, and He knows best the ones who are on the right path." (16:125)
cheers to you too!
steven
With the name of Allah,
Peace be unto those who follow the guidance from their Lord.
You would be surprised just how many repressed homosexuals hate Islam in general. Some of them even have entire web sites dedicated to bashing Islam....
TGV said...
"You would be surprised just how many repressed homosexuals hate Islam in general. Some of them even have entire web sites dedicated to bashing Islam...."
WHat is even more surprising is repressed homosexuals who become Muslim, becasue they found out that Jesus wasn't white.
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