Sunday 17 January 2016

Dr Laurence Brown - Arguments Against the Idea of Jesus Being God




Some notes from Laurence Brown's presentation

1. Jesus denies he is God

Jesus denied divinity, here he is said to denied being the greatest, thus he cannot be God.

You have heard Me say to you, ‘I am going away and coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said,[a] ‘I am going to the Father,’ for My Father is greater than I. [John 14:28]

Jesus can do nothing of himself, thus clearly he does not have authority and sovereignty over all things.

Then Jesus answered and said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner. [John 5:19]

Then Jesus said to them, “When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and that I do nothing of Myself; but as My Father taught Me, I speak these things. [John 8:28]


2. Jesus affirms his humanity and his Prophethood. Think about it, a Prophet is a messenger, a messenger cannot be God. The One who sends the messenger is God.

But Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his own country, among his own relatives, and in his own house.” [Mark 6:4]

So they were offended at Him. But Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his own country and in his own house.” [Matthew 13:57]

Nevertheless I must journey today, tomorrow, and the day following; for it cannot be that a prophet should perish outside of Jerusalem. [Luke 13:33]

3. Forgery: Incarnation

This verse seems to be clearly teaches the incarnation idea. At first glance it does, right?

However, there's some shenanigans going on here by the scribes. The word 'God' has been added in, in the stead of the word 'who'. The word 'God' is not in the earlier manuscripts.

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God[a] was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory. [1 Timothy 3:16]

[a] NU-Text reads Who.

4. God is All-Powerful and free of need.

Jesus was born, suckled, he ate, drank and slept. He prayed too. He was dependent on his mother as a child. This is common sense, clearly a dependent being is not God.

5. Other points

Jesus forgave sins?

Jesus was called 'lord', so was Moses and Abraham. Moses, judges and angels were  called 'elohim'.

The resurrection claim, there's no consistency n the stories concerning the resurrection. It cannot be trusted.


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