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The Hadith has NOTHING to do with wearing female clothes! See for yourselves, here is the relevant portion of the Hadith from the scholar Cyril Glasse’s encyclopaedia of Islam:
The Prophet said to Umm Salamah: ‘Trouble me not concerning ‘Aishah for verily inspiration does not come to me when I am beneath the coverlet of a wife, except that wife be ‘Aishah’ [The Concise Encyclopaedia of Islam, Revised Edition, Cyril Glasse, Stacey International, 2001, p34]
No scholar or student of knowledge would ever take this hadith (or the other one they use) to imply cross-dressing, nobody with an ounce of knowledge and desire for accuracy would either.
Unsurprising, these fabrications were (and still are) being propagated by sad little ‘Christian evangelists’ who have no regard for the truth.
Waqar Akbar Cheema from ‘Let Me Turn The Tables’ seems to have found the bizarre little man (Sam Shamoun) who initiated these lies and has produced an in depth article rebuking him for his desperately made-up translations, ignorance and other deceptions concerning this issue. Here are a couple of tasters:
Sam Shamoun, first inserted the words ‘wearing’ in brackets for no reason. Perhaps he thought that Muslims will also swallow this word in brackets as easily as Christians have been adopting interpolations into the Bible.
He translated the word ‘thowb’ as “woman’s clothing” and related it to wearing. You will hardly ever find a liar of this caliber!
For the entire article refuting these debauched lies, please see:
Evil prevails when good men sit on their hands. People, do not allow the lies of rogue Christian missionaries to go unchecked. These deceptive Christian missionaries are indeed malicious with their lies as they are diametrically opposed to honesty and general decency.
Feedback: yahyasnow@hotmail.com
64 comments:
why so many bad liers in christian churchs
Robert Morey has written an article, you must check this:
Robert Morey wants to bomb Makkah
Robert Morey, the Expert of Islam, whom Sam shamoun and other Genius Christians derive their knowledge from, believes that Islam is based on a building in Saudi Arabia, if they destroy it , they destroy Islam.
Robert Morey, expert as he is , missed a small detail: Muslims already believe that the Kaaba will be destroyed. Surely Morey doesn't want another prophesy turn true.
Well the sooner the better.
£50 for sam
and peoples as well said paul was a gay. both is wrong.
hey sam sham supporter i gave sam $500 2 years ago now i want my money back. how do i get my money back? does sam do tax evation on all the money he is given? look at that dudes accounts and get my $500 back. i have to pay bills next week i need my money back. if any any1 can help get me the money i will be thankfull.
Here 1More, you can listen to the whole thing:
'Tough Love' by Dr. Robert Morey
Now you know why Dr Nabeel Qureshi does not support Sam Shamoun.
I disagree with the Nuke Mecca solution to the Muslim Question.
The political solution to Islam, is in fact Islam it self.
Isolation. Muslim want to be Isolated from the rest of the world. They want their own laws, Allah wants his rights so let him have it.
For Muslims living in the US Repatriation to "Islamic Lands" and Reservations for those that can not be deported.
Containment. No more importing of Islam's greatest Import, MUJAHEDDIN. We must stop the immigration in the west of Muslim refugee's fleeing Islam in their own country. Only to try and implement the very thing they are fleeing in the first place.
Stop involving ourselves in their political affairs. You can not bring a people into the 21st century who want to live in the primitive savage culture of 7th century Arabia.
Stop killing Muslims to stop Muslims from killing MUSLIMS.
People what are we doing bombing Libya? We are killing Muslims to stop Muslims from Killing other Muslims. How does this make any sense?
What are we still doing in Afgan?
We have killed Osama Bin Ladden, killed or captured everyone involved in 9-11. So why are we still there?
Iraq- although we have seen a drastic draw down. I think we are at a little over 50,000 support troops, we are still there. Muslims are still killing Muslims in Iraq.
Well that's my two cents.
radical go back and respond to those christian honor killings i posted.
To Radical Moderate.
Why don’t you go and teach Robert about love your enemies etc. You know I have more respect for him when for all of you shamounians hypocrites.
Ali I think he will not do it, he uses his tactic “Never answer anything about Christianity, only attack the other belief” – Remember this Radical Moderate?lol
1mm - "Robert Morey, expert as he is , missed a small detail: Muslims already believe that the Kaaba will be destroyed. Surely Morey doesn't want another prophesy turn true."
You are ignoring one major detail 1mm...that narration says that the Kaaba will be destroyed by the Abyssinians. If Morey inspired someone in the West to destroy the Kaaba, it would actually prove false the "prophesy" you mentioned.
(do not take this comment as a sign of support for what this Morey guy is saying. It's not. I disagree with "nuking" pretty much anything)
are you scared of me now?
@shamounianbrother sam, frosty the snowman is saying bad on you on his website and he and his frend saying something about u saying wrongs about wearing girl cloths. tel me if u did not say it and i wil expose him on his coments. brother sam im good at videom
MICHIGAN RAIDER said...
hey sam sham supporter i gave sam $500 2 years ago now i want my money back. how do i get my money back? does sam do tax evation on all the money he is given? look at that dudes accounts and get my $500 back. i have to pay bills next week i need my money back. if any any1 can help get me the money i will be thankfull.
dummy if you by car from garage can u get ur money back? if you give ur wife or mom gift do u ask for return when u have bills coming? pathetic
what ur view on 9.11?
Wow radical moderate. I pray you do not have any children. If you do, which I highly due to our unhealthy obsessive behaviors with Islam, I would not be surprised if they become serial killers. You are sick and disturbing. If you claim to be an advocate for justice and truth, then my enemy, I recommend you see a doctor because you are seriously disturbed..
@Anon
You wrote...
"Wow radical moderate. I pray you do not have any children. If you do, which I highly due to our unhealthy obsessive behaviors with Islam, I would not be surprised if they become serial killers. You are sick and disturbing. If you claim to be an advocate for justice and truth, then my enemy, I recommend you see a doctor because you are seriously disturbed.."
I don't understand what brought on your temper tantrum of personal attacks. Could you please elaborate why it is you wrote that?
I haven't posted much of my recent video footage from Dearborn yet, though I will certainly be posting some videos in the next few days. Nor have I posted some of the important videos filmed by others at the Arab Festival (but I'll be posting many of those as well).
However, I did want to draw attention to an especially refreshing video made by a Muslim woman after the festival. In the video, she calls on her fellow Muslims not to respond angrily or violently to the protected free speech of anti-Islam protestors. I say her comments are "refreshing" because so many Muslims and non-Muslims suffer from what we might call "Always Someone Else's Fault Syndrome" (ASEFS).
Hey Radical, if you actually listen to the Morey lecture you would know that White has mis-characterized Morey on his D.L show. Morey never said to "Nuke Mecca." He wants a strategic sidewinder strike with minimal casualties. But you know, I guess sending flesh and blood oversees to slaughter more flesh and blood instead of taking out an inanimate rock that can neither harm nor do good is the "Christian" thing to do?
...Lastly, the Media has reported that Israel and the U.S. do not know what to do with the remains of terrorists and suicide bombers. This is actually a problem. They are even finding parts in the remains of the WTC attacks, saying, "well this finger clearly belonged to one of the terrorists." And you see this is a "serious issue," what do we do with the corpses of terrorists or their fragments? This is my suggestion and I give it in all seriousness: Bury them in pigskin body bags. Now, you may wonder why I might say that. A TRADITIONAL Muslim teaching: If you are defiled with pigskin you will not be resurrected by Allah and you will not be taking your body to paradise, and if you don’t have a body of what use it it to be in the houri house! Now you have to think. THINK. Here you go to be a suicide bomber, you are told that you will be a martyr and a hero among your people, but, your goingt o be buried in a pigskin and you will not make it to paradise and you will never know the sexual favors of the houris. How many terrorist you think would say, "now wait a second! If my remains are going to be in pigskin I’ll never be resurrected. I aint gonna go!" I think if you want to put the kabash on terrorism it should be the universal principle in the Philippines, Israel, the United States, and every other nation. Any terrorists who are killed engaged in jihad, any terrorists who are executed by capital punishment, are to be buried in pigskins.
'Tough Love' by Dr. Robert Morey
Again, I want to reiterate: Morey never said to drop nuclear weapons on the idolatrous Kaaba. He did mention that Israel should nuke Baghdad, but only if Iran declares war on Israel and attacks. He also mentioned we should take out the Iranian nuclear plants. Again, Morey never said to drop nuclear weapons on the Kaaba or Mecca.
@Anon you said...
"Morey never said to "Nuke Mecca." He wants a strategic sidewinder strike with minimal casualties."
I did listen to it and I did notice that he never said to nuke mecca. However that just makes his statement even more foolish. His point was that once the Kabba has been destroyed that will demoralize the Muslims.
The Kabba has been torn down and rebuilt many times, it has been destroyed in war, and the Black Stone was even taken hostage for a while, and it was even broken into pieces.
So if conventional weapons are used then all they have to do is rebuild it.
At least if you nuke it, then it wont be inhabitable for a few thousand years.
Once again I am against nuking anything except my left over dinner.
You also wrote...
"But you know, I guess sending flesh and blood oversees to slaughter more flesh and blood instead of taking out an inanimate rock that can neither harm nor do good is the "Christian" thing to do?"
I don't know if you read my solution, but I AM AGAINST SENDING ANY TROOPS TO ANY MUSLIM COUNTRY. Let them have their Islam. Doesnt matter to me. They will still sell us the oil.
Now as far as disposing of the remains of the Muslims (I'm sorry I mean non Muslim jihad fighters praising allah before they die terrorists.) Here is my solution to that.
And there shouldn't be a single Muslim on this blog that objects to this since after all Osama Bin Ladden and his ilk were not Muslims, right Yahya Snow.
I say feed their remains to pigs, after the pig defecates, scope up the pig waist and send it to their families for proper burial.
@anonymous, you wrote:Again, I want to reiterate: Morey never said to drop nuclear weapons on the idolatrous Kaaba.
Muslims do not worship the Kaba. Please stop taking fundy Christian lies seriously. Search for the turht and the truth shall set you free...
@Radical Moderate
You don't want Muslims nuked. OK, I hope it's true. I hope you stop hanging with folk who believe Muslims are a 'cancer'. Perhaps there is hope for you yet...
@anonymous 2: Hey Radical, if you actually listen to the Morey lecture you would know that White has mis-characterized Morey on his D.L show. Morey never said to "Nuke Mecca."
That is not the first time James White has blundred...
Peace
Yahya, however you want to define "worship" is up to you but I will grant you that you do not "worship" the black rock or its vaginal encampment. Too bad your whole religion is still based on this "sacred site."
Radical, the way to deal with any Pagan Religion is to destroy their Idol. Ie. The Rock should not just be smashed into pieces, or "captured," it should be pulverized into dust.
There are four main reasons for attacking the Kaaba in Makkah...Firstly, It will demoralize the terrorists because their religion is based on this sacred site. They have to pray toward the Kaaba, this ancient pagan temple...five times a day. They have to make a pilgrimage to Makkah to get to this Kaaba and they have to run around it seven times...they have to go and kiss this meteorite which fell out of the sky, which I call the poop-of-the-gods, and they stick it [the stone] up there, and you must understand: If they don’t pray toward the Kaaba, they don’t go to the Kaaba, they don’t run around the Kaaba, they don’t do this, they don’t do that...If Makkah is destroyed, their prayers, their pilgrimages, and their hopes for paradise are destroyed with it.
Secondly, It will cause the demise of Wahhabism. Wahhabi Islamic teaching is the state religion of Saudi Arabia. It is the fountain [sic] of the money and the religious motivation for the terror schools from Pakistan to the Sickle Islands to Indonesia to Malaysia to Singapore to the Philippines and Macau and other places. You must understand that the Wahhabi clergy are the ones who are the official custodians of Makkha and Madina. What if Makkha and Madina were destroyed on their watch?
I tell you the moderate Muslims of the world would rise up and say, "because of what you have done we have lost Makkah," and I believe the Wahhabi themselves will be destroyed by Muslims.
Thirdly, while it would cause limited loss of life in Makkah because we can bomb that building, and that particular shrine, when basically very few people are there. It will save untold millions of lives around the world. Sometimes the few must suffer that the many be saved.
And fourthly, it will make moderate Muslims turn against Islamic fundamentalism because it is the extreme radical fundamental Muslims who believe the Qur'an and who follow what Muhammad said, who are the terrorists today. And they will look at their fellow brothers and sisters and Islam and say "look at what you have done! You have provoked the rest of the world and they have come and destroyed Makkah!"
Two agents from Israel said, "but will this not bring one billion Muslims in war?" I said, "NO. The Majority of Muslims, do they make the pilgrimage? NO. The majority, 90 percent of Muslims, are moderate; they don’t care about what the Qur'an says! They just don’t care! Their religion will "go on" without the Kaaba...because it’s a cultural thing! Just as much as we have moderate Christians who are only "culturally" Christians. I do not believe that the moderate Muslims, who don’t take their religion seriously, will rise up. It is only the terrorists who will be demoralized for this reason. The Imams, the Mullahs, and the Muftis, have GONE ON RECORD: "If the Kaaba is ever destroyed, Islam is finished. If Allah cannot protect Makkah, Islam is through." They have gone on record! Well then I’m taking them up on their word!
'Tough Love' by Dr. Robert Morey
Radical, I saw the reaction of the so called moderate Muslims after Usama was killed. They celebrated his death and cheered that he died while the Wahabs and the Middle East Mourned and held memorials for him. This further demonstrates what Morey says is right.
I have heard the so called "moderate" Muslim Abdullah Kunde literally say during a debate with Sam, that, "if it would help you come closer to Islam I would be the first one to smash the Kaaba."
They don't really care about their teachings! The actual Muslims who do care are the ones who will loose faith in their religion. The actual Muslims who follow the Qur'an and Sunna KNOW that the Kaaba is protected by Allah and that it is Allahs house - those are the same Muslims who slaughter innocent "kafur" in the name of their false god.
@Yahya Snow
You wrote...
"You don't want Muslims nuked. OK, I hope it's true."
I do not want anyone to get NUKED. It is a weapon of de taunt. Or something only to be used to end a very very bloody war when the alternative of invasion and use of conventional weapons would lead to many more deaths of your own soldiers and that of the enemy.
You also wrote...
"I hope you stop hanging with folk who believe Muslims are a 'cancer'."
I have never hung out with people who believe Muslims are a cancer. So I don't know who you are referring to.
I do believe that Islam is the Cancer, and Muslims are infected with this cancer. However not all Muslims are Stage 4 Terminal.
And thats why I want Islam for you. I want you to be allowed to practice Islam on your own self and have Islam practiced on YOU. Like Chemo and surgery, those that are still in stage 1, or 2 this should be enough for them to leave.
However those that are in stage 3, and even progress to stage four terminal, like all other cancers in this stage, the only cure is DEATH.
You also wrote...
"Perhaps there is hope for you yet..."
There is no hope for me other then the hope that is with in me, the hope of salvation in Jesus Christ. Something you don't have.
Maybe someday you will have this hope.
Radical Moderate:
I have never hung out with people who believe Muslims are a cancer. So I don't know who you are referring to.
We are referring to Sam Shamoun. Is it surprising that he has said that?
1Milimeter
You wrote...
"We are referring to Sam Shamoun. Is it surprising that he has said that?"
I have never heard him say that.
Radical Moderate:
What if I find you the quotation, what would you do? But I think it would be just a waste of time. May be Yahya will find the audio in his archive. But I remember it clearly.
@1milimeter
You wrote...
"What if I find you the quotation, what would you do? But I think it would be just a waste of time. May be Yahya will find the audio in his archive. But I remember it clearly."
I say ok find the quote or the audio.
Radical Moderate , what would you do?
@1milimeter
What will i do if you find a audio or a quote where sam says "Muslims are a cancer" well find the quote or the audio or video and you will find out.
@1MoreMuslim and RM.
Here is the clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuHLjGRmBBc
Radical, further, I also want to point out that saying the "muslims will rebuild the Kaaba and be stronger than ever" is probably one of the stupidest things I ever heard! Are they going to build a time machine travel back in time and get another rock from Abraham? The rock itself has worth to Islam because Muslims believe it is really from Abraham! There is no possible way they can rebuild after the rock is gone. That is their idol. But what you said about feeding the remains of jihadi Muslims to pigs is even more brilliant. Take it right to the source.
@Yahya and 1milimeter
Where does Sam say "Muslims are a cancer on society?" I don't hear him say that, as a matter of fact you had to insert those words into what he said.
Jailbreak and his crew would come into Sams room and just say all kinds of nasty things about Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, and of course the usual personal insults to Sam.
So when Sam was referring to "you guys are a Cancer on society he was referring not to Muslims in general but to Jailbreak and his crew personally.
Nice try.
But show me where Sam ever said these words exactly "Muslims are a Cancer on society"
@Anon
Who said...
"Radical, further, I also want to point out that saying the "muslims will rebuild the Kaaba and be stronger than ever" is probably one of the stupidest things I ever heard!"
Your not very bright. Please look into Islam, you certainly meet the IQ requirements
Radical, Thank you for YOUR invitation to Islam but I decline, I might not be very smart, but I do know for a fact that these people will kill for their faith in MAN. If you actually think that the Muslims will be "stronger" AFTER they rebuild, WITHOUT this VERY PARTICULAR rock, then I don't think you are very smart either. What will they substitute for it? A nice modern sapphire? They can just pretend its the same one Abraham used? Take the Kaaba and Islam will be the new Judaism.
1mm and snow.
For lying about Sam I'm going to make to special cotrabutions. 25 dollars each in both of ur names. Sam thanks U
Yahya, I did not see what you wrote before.
*White did not make a "blunder" of any sort.* I should not have used "mischaracterized" as it can be so easily misconstrued.
White simply said that people went up to him and asked "Should we Nuke Mecca," and he said no. Then he talked about Morey wanting to bomb the Kaaba, the source of the questions, and then he talked some more about how we should not "nuke Mecca." So, he never even outright said "Morey want to nuke Mecca," it’s just the way he talked about it (placing his thoughts on Morey smack dab in the middle of the two "Nuke Mecca" statements) which is now being taken out of context by some less perceptive folk who are running around the internet like chickens with their heads cut off spreading rumors and gossip - to Muslims no less - about what some Christian said! Even 1MoreMuslim had it right from the get go and did not say anything about “nukes.”
As a Christian I am told by my scripture to go to the source of any disagreement with Christians I may have, FIRST, before running around like a chicken without a head!
1More, your religion is based on this sacred site as much as you might not want to believe it. It is one of the pillars and it takes a grand stand in the final show. What if no more rock but still no final show??? Are you like some other Muslims? Do you not care about what happens to the Kaaba? Would you help smash it if it was keeping people from Islam?
@Mecca Bombers
If you really think that destroying the kabba and or the black stone will destroy Islam, then you need to explain to me the following from history.
1st Why wasnt Islam destroyed 756 AD when it was smashed to pieces by a stone fired from a catapult during the Umayyad siege of Mecca.
2nd If destroying the Black Stone will mean they will loose a direction to pray then why didn't Muslims pray in the direction of Hajar (modern Bahrain) when the "Qarmatian leader Abu Tahir al-Qarmati set the Black Stone up in his own mosque, the Masjid al-Dirar, with the intention of redirecting the Hajj away from Mecca. However, this failed, and pilgrims continued to venerate the spot where the Black Stone had been."
Source
With my plan if you let the Muslims be Muslims they will fight over and destroy the black stone themselves.
@1milimeter and Frosty the Snowman
Whats wrong you guys are awful silent now that I have exposed ANOTHER slanderous lie, and misrepresentation of the great scholar Sam Shamoun.
Oh AI thanks your for your contribution to answering Islam. I'm sure Allah is pleased with you :)
Correction when I wrote...
"Oh AI thanks your for your contribution to answering Islam. I'm sure Allah is pleased with you :)"
I should of wrote.
I'm sure Sam will thank you when I make the special contributions in both of your names for your support of him and the AI website.
I'm sure Allah is really pleased with your support of Sam and the AI website. Keep up the good work
Radical Moderate:
Sam Shamoun is a scholar recognized by the Mentally disabled community. Even is Sam has said that all Muslims are cancer the society, I bet my life that you would find a way to sweep it. Pastor Joseph have said that Muslims in America are spies, of course you may say this is nothing. Radical if you don't care about Muslims in USA, try to think about the christians in Muslim land, what If Muslims begin to think that all Christians are spies for the enemy?
1milimeter wrote...
"Sam Shamoun is a scholar recognized by the Mentally disabled community."
Dr White calls Sam the "Assyrian Encyclopedic" he said on the last DL "Muslims you know why yuo hate Sam, it's because he shreds your arguments" or words to the affect.
You also wrote...
"Even is Sam has said that all Muslims are cancer the society, I bet my life that you would find a way to sweep it."
Well the fact is he NEVER SAID IT, you accused him of saying it, SNOWMAN produced a video slandering and lying that he said it. BUT HE NEVER DID. No apologies from Snowman for LYING, no apologies for falsely accusing him. Just some lame excuse that "If he said it I would make up some excuse" well the fact is he never said it so you will never know will you.
You then wrote...
"Pastor Joseph have said that Muslims in America are spies, of course you may say this is nothing."
I do not believe I have ever heard Pastor Joseph say such a thing. So just like Sam, you will have to prove your false allegation. And then you will get my response.
You then wrote...
"Radical if you don't care about Muslims in USA, try to think about the christians in Muslim land, what If Muslims begin to think that all Christians are spies for the enemy?"
Is that a threat? What would happen to the Christians if Muslims started calling all Christians spies. Please do tell me?
Truth is Christians in Muslim countries are constantly falsely accused of all kinds of things. And if the government doesn't get them then the Mob of Good Muslims will.
Radical :
Pastor joseph said that Muslim women are spies, whenever they enter in western houses. He said that in the same clip when you called in suggesting a very bloody solution to the Iranian problem.
For Pastor Joseph , my wife who keeps Christian kids is an infiltrated spy ( Jasous in Arabic), what a beautiful Christian virtue!
As for James White, he is recognized a scholar by the Deceived Community, I am not sure that his PhD should be called PhD. James white accuses Muslims of using Encyclopedia Britannica, but he relies on Sam's Article which have no credentials, he falls in his blunders, as I documented on my Youtube Channels. These two are a joke. Sam Can certainly use google and read from internet, if that would make him a scholar, then I am one. James White endorsing Sam, is proof that he is not a serious scholar.
1mm making another false accusation against a christian. Still no.apology forward lying about. Sam.
Radical Moderate:
Pastor Joseph : a Muslim baby sitter is a Jassouss ( Spy) who infiltrate the home.
I am eager to see how you sweep off this one.
In the case of Sam, He says you guys are cancer, you give him the benefit of the doubt, that does not deserve.
@1Milimeter now for a proper response. Part 1
First I would just like to thank you for holding Christians to a higher standard then you hold Muslims. It is refreshing to see that.
Notice that Snowman has posts whinning and complaing "Sam Shamoun or David would said this, Christians you should rebuke him bleah blah blah blahh" But then when you and Snowman are busted in a stone cold lie, suddenly your silent no appologie from you or Snowman, no rebuking etc...
Thanks for proving once again that low standards you Muslims have for yourselves.
Instead of comming clean and admitting that Snowman made up his fictitious quote, instead of calling him to repent instead of rebuking him for making such a obvious lie. What do you do.
Turn to another Christian and misrepresent and slander him.
You wrote...
""Pastor joseph said that Muslim women are spies, whenever they enter in western houses."
I watched the video and he did not say that. But I will respond to that in another post.
You then wrote...
"He said that in the same clip when you called in suggesting a very bloody solution to the Iranian problem."
Yes I'm glad you agree that letting Muslims be Muslims and on there own with no interference from the west would be a very "BLOODY SOLUTION". After all Blood shed is Islams only solution.
You then wrote...
For Pastor Joseph , my wife who keeps Christian kids is an infiltrated spy ( Jasous in Arabic), what a beautiful Christian virtue!
Does your wife teach Christian children the lies of Islam?
You then turn your slander machine on Dr White.
You wrote...
"As for James White, he is recognized a scholar by the Deceived Community, I am not sure that his PhD should be called PhD."
Wow so many errors. First James White has written over 27 books, I know personaly that the KJV controversy and The forgotton trinity are avaliable in several different college library systems in the US, Canada, and Europe. The KJV is used as a introduction to textual criticism. He has taught as a adjunct professor.
I'm sorry milometer what are you credentials?
As far as his PHD, your right it should not be called a PHD, becasue its not. He never claimed it was a PHD, its a TH.D.
Snowman even posted a article that his credentials should not be questioned lol
Man pay attention try to keep up.
@1milimeter A proper response part 2
You wrote...
"James white accuses Muslims of using Encyclopedia Britannica,"
Wow talk about a total lie. First he does not accuse Muslims of using the Encyclopedia Britannica, Muslims have admitted that they use the Encyclopedia Britannica, as well as Wiki and other things that should not be used.
You the wrote...
"but he relies on Sam's Article which have no credentials, he falls in his blunders, as I documented on my Youtube Channels."
Really you documented what exactly. Have you seen Dr Whites youtube video's do you see his LIBRARY, he has done a few video's where he holds up the source material he uses never heard him say "I got this off the AI website."
Now he does recomened callers and average Joes like my self to go to the AI website for "FACTUAL INFORMATION ON ISLAM".
This coming from a Man who is a accomplished author, a TH.D, and a New Testament scholar is a great endorsement of the site for lay people. But no where does he ever say in a debate or in his writtings "I got this off of the AI website"
Yes Dr White has made mistakes and quoted the wrong source. He has acknowledged that, the funny thing is you Muslims expose how desperate you are by continuing to harp on the few instances where that has happened. Proving that is all you have nothing more. LOL
You then wrote....
"These two are a joke. Sam Can certainly use google and read from internet, if that would make him a scholar, then I am one. James White endorsing Sam, is proof that he is not a serious scholar."
The only one who is a joke, is you and ofcorse snowman and IBN, Pretty in Pink is funny, but I don't think he is funny ha ha if you know what I mean.
Tell me have you seen Sams library?
What's funny is that he uses your OWN SCHOLARS, to refute you and that is something you as a Muslim can not stand.
Like James White said...
"Muslims the reason you hate Sam is becasue he tears your arguments to shreds".
So the only thing you Muslims can do is provoke him to anger by saying all the nasty things that Muslism say in the PT rooms. And then record him when he casts you out.
Your like little children who laugh at other peoples farts, and then get angry when someone laughs at you when you fart.
Well I think that's it.
Still waiting for the acknowledgement from you and snow man that YOU LIED. Its not that I'm calling you a liar, I'm just calling you a Muslim.
Ridicule Extremist:
""Pastor joseph said that Muslim women are spies, whenever they enter in western houses."
you wrote:
I watched the video and he did not say that. But I will respond to that in another post.
I should have expected that! A kafir is a Kafir, never admitts the truth.
Since the debate of James white and Shabir Ally, I am waiting for Dr White to give his source, 5 years now still waiting. James White spent 17 minutes on youtube to tell us how he got the wrong source, but where is the right source? I have it, but he doesn't want to show you, because the quote is from a missionary book.
in this video James white :
1/ Accuses Muslims of using internet and encyclopedia britannica.
2/ Makes a claim that MUSLIM sources say that Ibn Massud was murdered. I am still waiting for the Muslim source ( that doesn't exist)
in this video he copies a blunder by Sam Shamoun, without even checking his facts.
Now Radical, since I am convinced that you are living in a state of denial of everything. I should stop wasting my time with you.
1st Why wasnt Islam destroyed 756 AD when it was smashed to pieces by a stone fired from a catapult during the Umayyad siege of Mecca.
Because, as you said, it was not destroyed but smashed into pieces. The Muslims collected those pieces, glued them back together, and put them back into place.
2nd If destroying the Black Stone will mean they will loose a direction to pray
That is not the point. It is not about direction of prayer. It is the fact that their tradition says the stone is protected by Allah and cannot be destroyed, and the Qur'an says the Kaaba is allahs house. If you REALLY believe this, and that stone is destroyed once and for all, then the Qur'an, and tradition, will be faulty.
armatian leader Abu Tahir al-Qarmati set the Black Stone up in his own mosque, the Masjid al-Dirar, with the intention of redirecting the Hajj away from Mecca. However, this failed, and pilgrims continued to venerate the spot where the Black Stone had been."
This is very interesting but it does not give enough info about anything. I would have to read this book: Peters, Francis E. (1994). Mecca: a literary history of the Muslim Holy Land, to understand the context, what the imams said about it, how the Muslims compensated for it, etc., to answer you. But, as Morey said, the imams have gone on record - if the Kaaba is destroyed there is no more Islam! I just think its ten years too late for this maneuver.
1MoreMuslim, why should I watch any other videos you post? I watched the one about Sam and you are a liar. He never called all Muslims cancer. You lied about that. It is Islam that is cancerous.
1milimeter
Caught in another lie
You wrote...
"I should have expected that! A kafir is a Kafir, never admitts the truth."
This coming from a man who was stone cold busted in a lie, so where did SAM ever say in that video "Muslims are a cancer on society'? WHERE he never said it. So lead by example and ADMIT THE TRUTH?
Now as far as Pastor Joseph here is my response.
you first wrote...
"Pastor joseph said that Muslim women are spies, whenever they enter in western houses."
I just watched the video, and he no where does he says that, he responds to the woman calling in who says that "there are a lot of of Muslims lady Muslims working now they working like a baby sitter for Candian Families, and they start to teach those kids and I don't know how they trust them those people"
Pastor Joeseph then responds
"Like a spy they infiltrate the home"
No where does he say "MUSLIM WOMAN are SPIES whenever they enter a western home." He was responding to a womans call.
Expressing a valid concern that Muslim woman are being put in charge of rearing Children.
I for one would not have a Muslim raising, or teaching my children.
Tell me would you have a bible believing Christian woman raising and teaching Muslim children?
So u can see your BUSTED AGAIN.
As far as Dr White.
First you are showing the desperation of Muslims. The debate was over a hour long, and thats all you got. He quoted as a primary source when he should of quoted it as a secondary source. It was a mistake move on.
You wrote "I am waiting for Dr White to give his source, 5 years now still waiting."
LOL wow the desperation, 5 years you have been waiting lol. He responded said he was wrong gave his explanation A few years ago on the DL. Man you need to listen to the DL more often. Hey why don't you call in and ask him about it lol. But you wont because your not interested in the truth.
Well in conclusion are you willing to admit that you LIED twice now?
Ridicule Moderate: you suffer from denial syndrome, you've given too much money to ABN to admit that they are bad folks.
1milimeter wrote...
"Ridicule Moderate: you suffer from denial syndrome, you've given too much money to ABN to admit that they are bad folks."
I'm in denial? LOL show me where Sam Shamound said "Muslims are a cancer on society?" Show me?
Show me where Pastor Joseph said "MUSLIM WOMAN are SPIES whenever they enter a western home."
Can you do that? If not then you are the one who is in denial.
BTW I have never donated any money to ABN, but perhaps now I will make a special contribution maybe at the next Jesus or Mohamed, I will do it in your honor just like the special donations I'm going to make to Sam Shamoun.
Ridicule Moderate:
When a Muslim asks : Where did Jesus say I am God Worship me. You dismiss the objection. Now I am going to dismiss yours.
1milimeter wow the desperation lol. You are in denial big time.
Ok I will be nice to you. Where did Sam ever imply that Muslims where a cancer?
As far as pastor Joseph is concerned all you have to do is say you mis spoke and what he said was in reply to a woman caller on Muslim Nanny's "Like a Dunyah a spies and infiltrator" so he was saying that these Nanny's could be spies or infiltrators. ANd I would agree with you on that.
But your in such denial you can not even say that.
1mm said:
When a Muslim asks : Where did Jesus say I am God Worship me. You dismiss the objection. Now I am going to dismiss yours.
I say,
We don’t dismiss the question we just think it is largely irrelevant if we are trying to determine if Christ is God.
On the other hand asking where Pastor Joseph said "MUSLIM WOMEN are SPIES whenever they enter a western home.” is very relevant when the claim is that Pastor Joseph said "MUSLIM WOMAN are SPIES whenever they enter a western home“.
Do you see the difference?
Peace
Ridicule Extremist:
I want to have another laugh on how you will jump over this :
Xenophobia of Pastor Joseph
Learn Christian values!!
@1milimeter
Yeah I'm laughing, because that has nothing to do with the fact that you and yahya snow slandered and out right lied about Sam Shamoun, that you out right lied about something Pastor Joeseph said, and that the next video to be played after the one you posted in the play list was by DAVID DUKE.
In the video with Pastor Joeseph it says "Just insert black or jew for Muslim" Well David Duke was a Grand Dragon of the KKK lol oh the desperation.
So lets insert the word Muslim for disbeliever in your Quran.
"Slay the Muslims where ever you find them".
"The Muslim is he worst of creatures the Christian the best"
I could go on but you get the point.
And yes I do not want a Muslim doctor, two of them crashed a car loaded with gasoline in the Glasgow air port a few years ago and burned them selves up for Allah.
I do not want a Muslim Pilate, 9-11 should be proof enough what happens when Muslims learn how to fly planes. Before 9-11 there was a Egyptian Muslim pilot who deliberitly flew his plane into the Atlantic ocean. Can you guess what he was chanting as the plane went down. I will give you a hint. It wasn't "Jesus is LORD".
And no I do not want a Muslim cab driver they never seem to know where they are going. They have been known to refuse dogs, people with alcohol and they are extreamly rude.
I find it interesting you have no problem with the extreme bigotry in Islam when it comes to non Muslims, yet you point the finger at us for reacting to the bigotry of Muslims.
I do not want to do business with Islamic Bigots, if that makes me a bigot then so be it.
Learn to be disgusted with the odor of your own farts before you try to put your stink on us.
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