Thursday 22 August 2013

Sam Shamoun, the biggest ignoramus of Answering-Islam.org?

 
Confused and noisy

This Sam Shamoun fella just doesn't get it, does he? During the day people go to work, they study, they have meetings and do other productive stuff. Not Sam Shamoun. He spams my comment sections with hormone-fuelled nonsense. Could somebody take this guy to one side and have a word? Please.

I've just deleted a bunch of his comments. However, I had a look at one of the links he was championing. As per usual the man does not deign to argue against the pure monotheism of Islam - I reckon deep down he knows it's far superior than his trinity (I bet even he cannot picture Moses, Abraham (pbut) or any other prophet worshipping a trinity)

Another Answering-Islam.org argument backfires

Let's have a look at his argument. As is his wont, Shamoun writes a tome for no reason at all (does anybody really read his material in its entirety?). His basic point is that Islam forbade adultery and fornication yet allowed intimacy with the slave girls. He then uses this to insult the brother of Jesus (Prophet Muhammad, pbut).

Some cultural, Biblical and practical education for Sam Shamoun

Firstly (sexual) intimacy is allowed with concubines (female slaves) in the Judeo-Christian tradition too. According to their traditions a number of figures in the Bible had concubines: Abraham had two concubines; Gideon: at least 1; David: many; Nahor: 1; Jacob: 1; Eliphaz: 1; Gideon: 1; Caleb: 2; Manassah: 1; Saul: 1; David: at least 10; Rehoboam: 60; Solomon: 300; an unidentified Levite: 1; Belshazzar: more than 1. [Sourced from ReligiousTolerance.org]

Back in ancient times having a concubine was similar to marriage (though it was not marriage in name) and the children from such a union were seen to be legitimate. The same applies to Islamic times - having a female slave was similar to a marriage as well.

This 'Christian' (Shamoun) either does not know this or just throws this knowledge aside to attack Islam. It's amazing to see the number of criticisms this man levels at Islam which also insult his Judeo-Christian tradition too. Has this man no sense and no self-control?

'Concubinage was practised in many ancient cultures, especially in Mesopotamia.....where a private citizen might have one or two concubines in addition to his primary wife.....a concubine was often a slave or part of the booty of war (Judges 5:30). A man might have a concubine simply as an economical form of marriage, since no dowry or bride-price was required. A concubine could add to a man's prestige by giving him two wives and thus an increased capacity for children. Such offspring were normally delivered onto the knees of the legal wife, thus establishing their legitimacy as family members. The concubine was also another servant to add to his work force.' (Baker Encyclopedia of the Bible, 1997, Vol 1, p504). [sourced from UKapologetics]

The Bible allows sex with captured women (even if already married?)

A major facet of his argument is that in Islam a man can have sexual intimacy with his slave girl (concubine) even if she was married prior to being captured. Again, this Shamoun fella misses the important context. Shamoun conveniently forgets to mention that the previous marriage is annulled and this relationship between the slave girl and the master is similar to a marriage. Therefore one can see this is not adultery/fornication.

However, this is something which may be in his Bible too. Deuteronomy 21:10-14 allows a man to marry a female captive of war that he finds beautiful. What if this woman happens to have been married prior to being captured? This seems to be extremely likely as in ancient times the women married early (the Biblical age of marriage was in fact puberty). Would one say that the modern day Bible allows adultery? No. The obvious answer seems to be that, in Judeo-Christian times, the previous marriage of the captured woman was annulled thus this was not seen as adultery. Is this not similar to what the ignoramus from answering-islam.org was attacking Islam for? Yes, it's another case of this 'Christian' not thinking and/or throwing his Bible behind his back in order to attack Islam.

Welcome to the weird world of answering-islam.org's biggest ignoramus!

See how quick and easy it is to refute Answering-islam.org's biggest ignoramus? He spends all day/week/month to write  a tome (of nonsense). The one refuting him offers a spot of common sense, a bit of insight and a few paragraphs. It tells its own story!


In the Sam Shamoun section you will find over 50 posts denouncing, rebuking, exposing and even mocking the biggest ignoramus at answering-islam.org. Enjoy:

http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Sam%20Shamoun

Related:

The insincere Christians who compare Jesus (p) with Muhammad (p):
http://bloggingtheology.wordpress.com/2013/08/20/15101/#comment-17178

Jesus taught people to do the Will of God (according to Mark 3:35) in order to become his brothers, mothers or sisters. A Muslim means one who submits to the Will of God. Do you want to become a brother of Jesus? If yes, become a Muslim. Now is the time.
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17 comments:

Sam said...
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Anonymous said...

Sam sham got exposed. On the picture he looks like he shouting on street. What he doing?

Anonymous said...

Samshamiun is mad. He writing essays on comment. He does this when he mad. He mad coz he got refuted easy.

Anonymous said...

For sa shamoun

http://bloggingtheology.wordpress.com/2013/08/22/justification-by-faith-thats-not-my-gospel-says-jesus/

Radical Moderate said...
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Anonymous said...

Good article yahya

Anonymous said...




http://unveiling-christianity.org/polemics/

Anonymous said...

Radical moderator is here. Is he still giving dollars to Sam.

http://bloggingtheology.wordpress.com/2013/08/13/a-debt-of-gratitude/

Anonymous said...

Sam shamoun got mad coz ppl know radical moderator pays shams bills

Anonymous said...

Ac room

Yahya Snow said...

Radical,

Thanks for helping me to get to the question.

I ask Sam and you who believe in Deuteronomy 21:10-14, which allows the marrying of any captured woman you find attractive (even if previously married prior to capture, the question of what if some Texan Christians did this to you. That's to say, they turned up at your state and killed many of the men and took your wives, sisters, mothers and daughters and married them?

Would you agree with this as it seems to have been done in Judeo-Christian times (see Deut 21:10-14).

Would you like it if the Texan Christians annulled your marriages and married your wives whilst they were acting on Deut 21:10-14?



Yahya Snow said...

Sam, aside from your insults you mentioned you will be writing on Mark 3:35.

I've already done so:

http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.co.uk/2009/12/jesus-has-muslim-brothers-sisters-and.html

That's enough.

Sam said...
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Sam said...

And not to worry, I already responded to your trash post concerning Mark 3:35, which should be posted with our next update, Lord willing. So enjoy your humiliation since it will be a long time before I relent from humiliating you for all your filth and lies.

Yahya Snow said...

Sam please stop with the angry attitude.

You are always insulting and making claims without a shred of evidence.

As for Mark 3:35, I know you are not up for a proper discussion on this and I don't suspect you will deign to link to my response or even my earlier post on Mark 3:35.

That's understandable.

Anyways, here is the latest post:

http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/ask-james-white-to-say-hey-sam-this.html

I know you vowed to stick around but I think even you will be able to see the severity and leave me alone for a while. I've got stuff to do. A busy bank holiday weekend ahead. I don't want to waste time baby-sitting you in my comment sections. Think about it.

Radical Moderate said...

Yahya

Why did you delete my comment and why are you running from my question. LOL

Since I asked you first could you please answer my question then I will gladly answer your question. The answer my SHOCK YOU.