Sunday, 16 January 2011

Imam Moustafa Zayed Debates Robert Spencer - ABN

Sadly the debate is confined to one topic; it would be absolutely catastrophic for the career of Spencer if Zayed had an opportunity to grill him on the lies, deceptions and bouts of sheer ignorance within his written work. I know he has already been panned in many forms – Zayed has proverbially slapped him around over 400 pages of written refutation – but it’s always nice to see folk such as Spencer derailed via live confrontation.

ABN promo video for the debate



Looking forward to it

Kudos to ABN for setting up the encounter.However, this missionary channel (ABNSat) seems to be transfixed on framing Islam for the 9/11 atrocity and the band of ignoramuses who comprise Al Qaeda. Can we really expect a fair shake? I don’t know. I hope they don’t wheel out the circus act (Shoebat, Saleem, Choudry and Bakri) half way through.

Though Spencer is dishonest he is undeniably smart – hence his longevity in the business of Islamophobia. He really does appear to be the Mr Teflon of Islamophobia - despite the numerous folk who have highlighted his shoddy ways, Spencer is still very much in business due to his shameless nature and his smart ability to deflect.

I hope Robert Spencer does not throw out a whopper of a lie – in his book he audaciously claimed statues of Mary and Jesus (p) were kept (by Muhammad, p) at the Kaba! This is an audacious lie - no idols were kept by Prophet Muhammad [1].

Quite how the shameless Spencer can share a podium with imam Zayed in the knowledge his whoppers, blunders and misdirecting have been catalogued in a 400 page tome of a refutation is beyond us. Actually, it is not – Spencer is another shameless Islamophobe who is milking the cash-cow called Islamophobia.


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Footnotes

[1] The Kaba was built by Ishmael and Abraham (pbut) and became a centre for Abrahamic monotheism. However, with time idol worship was introduced by later generations – the first person to introduce idols to the Kaba was Amr bin Luhai, subsequently idolatry spread all over Mecca and the Hejaz.
It is well known the Prophet (P), upon the conquest of Mecca, the 360 idols were removed. [See Arraheequal Makhtoum, pages 28, 45, 465]

“He [Muhammad] destroyed the idols around the Kaba and rededicated it to Allah, the one God…” [Islam, a Short History – Karen Armstrong, p20]

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) ordered every single item painting, painting and statue, depiction of any idol, character, prophet or angel to be destroyed. [p177, The lies about Muhammad - Moustafa Zayed]

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

Looking forward to this debate. I hope the Imam wipes the floor with Spencer. Should be interesting.

I just saw this quote from David Wood over on the AnsweringMuslim blog and I had to copy and paste it here. I think he has outdone himself with this one...

"....It's just a guy grilling a Qur'an (and for Muslims who would complain about this, don't forget that Muhammad smashed the idols of the pagans).

WHAT????????????

Seriously Wood are you even a Monotheist let alone a Christian?

What a joker

thegrandverbalizer19 said...

With the name of Allah, Peace be unto those who follow the guidance from their Lord....

Well I have been contemplating for a while now if I should publish some information on David Wood that is a game changer for sure...

I personally don't like bringing up personal information that could possibly put a person's marriage into question either.

But I think David has not always been STRAIGHT....with us (just to give you people a clue)

The relationship BETWEEN David and Nabeel maybe allot more close than what these two maybe willing to let on...

I normally don't like to do things like this, but seeing that with David Wood the gloves come off...

I think it's time someone comes clean...and COMES OUT OF THE CLOSET....

stay tuned...

sam1528 said...

a'kum bro tgv19 ,

Lets stay away from such issues. Allah has unique ways dealing with such people. Apologies - I don't mean to offend you in any way.

They should not forget jimmy swaggart and anis sorrosh. They have been wiped out by their own 'actions'.

Hmmm , come to think of it , thru the annals of history , people who insulted Allah / Prophet Muhammad(saw) all ended up shaming themselves. Abu lahab probably had the distinction to be the first of firsts.

Anonymous said...

The message was clear: "Don't upset Muslims, or we'll throw you in jail." Hmmm. Now where have I heard that before?


The district attorney dropped hate-crime charges against a Tulsa man Friday afternoon after a jury decided the evening before that the defendant did not need involuntary mental-health treatment.

Jesse Quinn Harrison was charged Dec. 28 with transmitting a threatening letter and with malicious intimidation or harassment.

The charges were based on a package he had sent to the Peace Academy at the Islamic Society of Tulsa. The package included a letter and a video he had made of himself smearing a Quran and an image of an Islamic religious figure with pork chops and grilling those items.

A mental-health hearing ended Thursday with a jury's deciding that Harrison was not "in need of treatment," according to the verdict.

Because Harrison - who had been a patient at the Tulsa Center for Behavioral Health - still faced the criminal charges, he was arrested and booked into the Tulsa Jail after the verdict. After the charges were dismissed, he was released from jail Friday, records show.

Tulsa County District Attorney Tim Harris sat in on much of Harrison's mental-health hearing Wednesday and Thursday and said it was a kind of preview of what would be presented in a criminal case. He said he could see how the evidence would be presented and heard Harrison's explanation of the video and letter submitted as evidence for the first time.

"After listening to him - though I don't agree with the jury's decision - it does give you some insight into where he was coming from," Harris said Friday.

Harrison testified Thursday that by posting the video - which he acknowledged was "horribly offensive" - to YouTube and Facebook, he hoped to show that Islam was a peaceful religion despite a prevailing stereotype to the contrary.

"I created this horribly offensive video, yet what so many people expected was for Muslims to act violent to me," Harrison testified. "Despite this horrible offense, they continue to be a law-abiding, peaceful people." (Read more.)

Yahya Snow said...

The message was clear: "Don't upset Muslims, or we'll throw you in jail." Hmmm. Now where have I heard that before?



Harrison would have been arrested if he had done the same to the Jewish/Hindu/Mormon community. It's not about "upsetting" Muslims but its about enforcing the law.

In this case, the charges were dropped.

Islamophobes should stop trying to make this out to be a Muslim issue - the same laws would apply if it wasd the Jewish commnity.

In any case - Jesse Quinn Harrison claims he was trying to prove Islam is a peaceful religion. My advice to Jesse would be to do it in a less offensive and more intellectual fashion in the future. Quote some scholars etc...

I hope Jesse comes to the truth and becomes a Muslim.

Ibn said...

I am getting sick of these copy and paste jobs.

Ibn said...

Anonymous: The message was clear: "Don't upset Muslims, or we'll throw you in jail."

It is funny how Wood and his braindead groupies don't know the difference between "upsetting" and "terrorizing". Really, what's the difference between this case and one involving a disgruntled man who sends his ex-girlfriend a video showing him conducting target practice with her picture? Would the woman be upset or threatened?

Anonymous said...

@thegrandverbalizer1

jazak allah alf a-khair

The sooner the better brother!

he's been asking for it for a very very very very longtime.

and again a thousand JAK'S

RefutingActs17 said...

Keep it up Br. Snow!

Anonymous said...

Killing Babies

One baby was STONED TO DEATH on the orders of a Muslim IMAM

KARACHI (AFP) – The lifeless bodies of two tiny babies are being given their final bath before burial in Karachi, after they were left to die in the southern Pakistani city's garbage dumps.
"They can only have been one or two days old," says volunteer worker Mohammad Saleem, pointing at the two small corpses being gently washed by his colleagues at a charity's morgue.
In the conservative Muslim nation, where the birth of children outside of marriage is condemned and adultery is a crime punishable by death under strict interpretations of Islamic law, infanticide is a crime on the rise.

More than 1,000 infants -- most of them girls -- were killed or abandoned to die in Pakistan last year according to conservative estimates by the Edhi Foundation, a charity working to reverse the grim trend.
The infanticide figures are collected only from Pakistan's main cities, leaving out huge swathes of the largely rural nation, and the charity says that in December alone it found 40 dead babies left in garbage dumps and sewers.

The number of dead infants found last year -- 1,210 -- was up from 890 in 2008 and 999 in 2009, says the Edhi Foundation manager in Karachi, Anwar Kazmi.

Tragic tales abound.
Kazmi recounts the discovery of the burnt body of a six-day-old infant who had been strangled. Another child was found on the steps of a mosque having been stoned to death on the orders of an extremist imam who has since disappeared, he says...

Source

thegrandverbalizer19 said...

With the name of Allah, Peace be unto those who follow the guidance from their Lord.

"sam1528 said...
a'kum bro tgv19"

wa'kum bro sam1528

"Lets stay away from such issues. Allah has unique ways dealing with such people. Apologies - I don't mean to offend you in any way."

No apologies needed. In fact I have been advised by fellow Muslims who saw what happened between David and myself via e-mail recently not to take this issue any step further.

As I said I am not interested in ruining people's marriages, but I do think that David has some demons from his past...and present that I hope he sorts out. This goes much deeper than his personal convictions about Islam.

He is certaintly not the first nor the last to have animosity towards our faith tradition.

It's just the information I have is a "bomb shell" -figuratively speaking of course! So for now I will play it close to the chest.

Yet, as time goes on I maybe ready to spill the beans if David keeps up with his antics...He clearly needs prayers and help (by those in the Christian community closest to him)

Ibn said...

Salam Alaikum bro grandverbalizer19. Can you tell me what happened privately? By Allah, I will not reveal it to anyone.

Yahya Snow said...

TGV,

Of course its up to you what you feature on your site but we should try to set the standard - one of Wood's cronies got hold of Nadir Ahmed's personal details and Wood gladly featured it. This episode simply reveals what is in his heart - pure malice.

It is a fine balance in warning against Islamophobes and not going too personal

The problem with David is his ability to present himself as a victim - spin is his game. He would do that in an attempt to misdirect people from his lies and misbahviour.

So, even if it was the case our David will try to use it to his advantage - imo

And yep...the fella has a wife so it would not be the way to present something which could potentially harm his marriage.

Wood has been relatively quiet of late. No idea where Qureshi.

I must say...I do wonder as to what info you have

Anonymous said...

Best stick to refuting their erroneous claims. What is being suggested is too personal and from the sounds of things would effect other people connected with Wood. That would be unfair. Muslims should tread carefully and fear Allah (swt).

Let Allah (swt) deal with these Islamophobes how he sees fit.

Let us continue to defend Islam and the reputation of our beloved prophet Muhammad (saws).