Monday 15 July 2013

Is Sam Shamoun Mentally ill?

 
This piercing article by The Muslim Debate Initiative's Ijaz Ahmad is another indictment of shame on Sam Shamoun's apologetics career. Apart from nobody from mainstream Muslim communities taking him seriously his own colleagues and co-religionists have denounced him in categorical terms. Also note the deceptive ploys which Shamoun and his crew play in order to dupe a mainstream Muslim apologist to debate him:

Why Sam Shamoun Abuses Muslims and Former Christians


Many persons have questioned why Sam Shamoun has a persistent need to curse, insult, mock and attack Muslims and former Christians. Numerous answers have been given, many of his former friends have come forward, sympathetically to us Muslims and apologized to us, and distanced themselves from his behaviour. Very recently in fact, I became privy to a conversation Sam had and from the first response he gave, it was filled with childish insults, words not befitting of any adult, mature, human male. Yet, today I’d like to present, directly from the horse’s mouth, why Shamoun hates Muslims and apostate Christians. The following comment was posted by Shamoun on Br. Paul Bilal William’s website on December 7th, 2012, at 9:41 PM via his Facebook account (take with permission from Br. Paul’s website):
BTW Paul, the reason I get on you is because of your blasphemous rants and smear campaigns against committed Evangelicals like David Wood and James White. if you were to stop with your filthy blasphemies, i.e. “Don’t crucify me” (comment to Andalusi in your first debate with Green), “Praise the Lord, Jesus has spoken,” then I would actually hail you as a top Muslim apologist who is actually quite well read when it comes to current NT scholarship. I don’t mind your arguments, what I mind is your hatred of Evangelical Christianity and blasphemous slurs against the Jesus of the NT. If you want more people to take you seriously then you need to drop the rhetoric. If you do then I will treat you with respect. Let me know how you want to proceed from here on end.
Let’s dissect Shamoun’s reasoning:
BTW Paul, the reason I get on you is because of your blasphemous rants and smear campaigns against committed Evangelicals like David Wood and James White.
Apparently, because Br. Paul and Muslims like him who do not agree with Sam’s friends, they deserve to be insulted and abused. According to Mr. Shamoun, once you disagree with his ‘Evangelical friends’, you’re open game for whatever comes out of his mouth. Is this proper Christian behaviour? Do James White and Samuel Green agree with this level of decorum? Let us continue:
if you were to stop with your filthy blasphemies, i.e. “Don’t crucify me” (comment to Andalusi in your first debate with Green), “Praise the Lord, Jesus has spoken,” then I would actually hail you as a top Muslim apologist who is actually quite well read when it comes to current NT scholarship.
Now, isn’t this the pot calling the kettle black? Sam Shamoun who is renowned for blaspheming the Islamic faith, finds it atrocious that a Muslim could use sarcasm! I don’t seem to follow Shamoun’s reasoning here, how is it okay for him to blaspheme the Islamic faith and call for others (even though they clearly aren’t) to stop doing so, when he himself spends hours doing so himself? As you can see in this comment, Sam Shamoun concedes to Br. Paul being one of the top Muslim apologists who is quite well read – something Sam himself isn’t.
I don’t mind your arguments, what I mind is your hatred of Evangelical Christianity and blasphemous slurs against the Jesus of the NT.
To be a bit technical, if I as a Muslim were to say that I disbelieve that Christ is God – that is a blasphemy, and I’ve never really seen a Muslim say anything more than this, but publicly deny Christ’s alleged deity. Now, in Sam’s mind this is a blasphemous slur, but he has no problem insulting the Islamic God on a daily basis with far greater intensity, there is not one email exchange that I’ve had with Sam that has not included an insult towards Allaah ta ‘aala or Muhammad (peace be upon him). The hilarity of this comment is that Shamoun is focused on abusing others and then cries wolf when anyone disagrees with his faith. Clearly these are hallmarks of a mentally unstable individual who is in denial of his own actions.
If you want more people to take you seriously then you need to drop the rhetoric. If you do then I will treat you with respect. Let me know how you want to proceed from here on end.
Lastly, Sam should take his own advice. No Muslim da’ee looks at Sam respectfully because of his rhetoric. Sam has had to invent magnificent lies to hide his shame and embarrassment from being sidelined by both the Muslim and Christian communities. He gladly claims that no Muslim would dare share a stage with him for a debate, but many have in the past, but due to his abusive, petulant, childish and mentally unstable behaviour, many persons really don’t want to bother wasting their time on him. Very recently a group of Christians led by Pastor G. Saieg had to secretly set up a dialogue with Muslims in Toronto, Canada. They refused to say that Shamoun was accompanying them. The night before the event, they revealed his participation and the organizers pulled out. It is not because they are afraid of him, but they wish not to have a foul mouthed individual share a stage with them.
 
Ironically enough, the dialogue did happen, without Shamoun, thereby implicitly accepting that he is not an individual that is needed or one which they cannot do without – he is just as dispensable to the Muslim community as he is to the Christian community.Another lie that Shamoun has had to invent, is that the Muslim Debate Initiative is using ‘mafia’ behaviour to stop popular Muslim speakers from engaging him. As a contributing member for MDI, and as one who speaks to, sometimes on a daily basis with Muslim speakers – this cannot be furthest from the truth. Not a single speaker is ‘afraid’ of Sam, the very reason he gives for abusing Br. Paul, is the same reason Muslim speakers refuse to engage with him – drop the abusive rhetoric, drop the insults, drop the curses.
 
What Sam does not know and he should know, is that several of his former colleagues have spoken to Muslim speakers such as myself and they have informed us that they themselves do believe he is mentally ill, many of them have been victims of his insults – such to the extent they’ve cut working relationships with him.
 
Sam, if you’re reading this, remember, we don’t fear you – we just don’t respect you because of your behaviour.
 
wa Allaahu ‘Alam.
 
NOTE: Article written by Ijaz Ahmad of Calling Christians. Highlighting is my own. The original article can be seen here:
http://callingchristians.com/2013/07/15/why-sam-shamoun-abuses-muslims-and-former-christians/

My opinion: Sam Shamoun has taken to abusing me via email and also spam comments on this blog. He does not like people pointing out his errors, outright dishonesty and misbehaviour. Folk such as Anthony Rogers continue to hang with him (perhaps out of fear or a misguided sense of Christian unity) whilst others such as Negeen Mayel have left the anti-Muslim cesspit which Shamoun has been drowning in for a long while

Sam Shamoun - Idiotic Arguments:
http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/sam-shamoun-youre-idiot.html

Proof Sam Shamoun is a Fool:
http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/100-proof-sam-shamoun-is-fool.html

Email: yahyasnow@yahoo.co.uk

17 comments:

Radical Moderate said...
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Sam said...

Rad, this is all this spineless coward can do since he knows we are humiliating him for his lies, filth and slander.

Rad, check your paltalk messages.

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Yahya Snow said...

Sam

Relax. Have a cup of tea. Really, just chill out (Americanism)

Stop spamming. Tell your follower to stop spamming too.

You seem angry continually. Stay calm and offer a rational comment via email.

PS Please stop wasting your life abusing me and others for simply highlighting your argumentation (I mean fabrications) and your unstable behaviour.

Please take the night off and get some rest.

Email me when you have something coherent, rational and worthy to say

YS

Yahya Snow said...

Sam

Relax. Have a cup of tea. Really, just chill out (Americanism)

Stop spamming. Tell your follower to stop spamming too.

You seem angry continually. Stay calm and offer a rational comment via email.

PS Please stop wasting your life abusing me and others for simply highlighting your argumentation (I mean fabrications) and your unstable behaviour.

Please take the night off and get some rest.

Email me when you have something coherent, rational and worthy to say

YS

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Radical Moderate said...
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Sam said...
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Yahya Snow said...

Theid thing is, you and your follower actually think me removing your spam is a victory for you guys?!

Grow up!!

Stop spamming and stop with your cyber-rage. If you were in from of me, I'd office to take you to Starbucks and buy you guys a beverage to help calm you down.

Yahya Snow said...

Theid thing is, you and your follower actually think me removing your spam is a victory for you guys?!

Grow up!!

Stop spamming and stop with your cyber-rage. If you were in from of me, I'd office to take you to Starbucks and buy you guys a beverage to help calm you down.

Radical Moderate said...
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Yahya Snow said...

That's Shamoun 'logic' if I ever saw it.

A comment gets duplicated by the blogger system and it means the other person is 'nervous'

Sam, grow up and try thinking before speaking.

Radical Moderate said...
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Yahya Snow said...

Sam stop threatening to 'humiliate' me. More silly empty-mouthed cyber-rattling.

Grow up.

Clearly you feel the Sam Shamoun section has gone some way in 'humiliating' and exposing you. 53 pieces of Sam Shamoun rebuke in here:

http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Sam%20Shamoun

Can I say, 53 Sharrot gold?

Radical Moderate said...
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