Friday, 7 March 2014

An Oldie: Disagreement with Alpha and Omega Ministries' James White

Christian apologist, James White, highlights what he perceives to be the biggest problem Christian apologists are facing. White believes it to be a disconnection with the local church. As an outsider who regular looks into Christian apologetics’ ministries I reckon White has a point when he refers to Christian apologists who have become “apologetics disasters” – some of these disasters are catalogued on this very blog.

However, a lack of attachment in the church is not the biggest obstacle Christian apologists are facing. James, as an apologist, should know this!



The two biggest problems Christian apologists are facing are thus:

Christianity itself – the product they are working with is dysfunctional - noticeably dysfunctional. It comes as no surprise to see Christian apologists struggle in the field whilst regurgitating inadequate arguments from apologetics manuals from a bygone era. This is all they have to work with.

To give you a quick example, the Gospels are obviously unreliable and errant. Prior to Von Tischendorf’s find in the 1800’s, Christians believed the last portion of Mark was the inspired word of God. After this find, we now realise it’s a forgery!

Simple, if you need folk to hunt down manuscripts in order to pluck out forgeries your Gospels are unreliable – the possibility of further significant manuscript finds still haunts Christian apologists. Please do keep in mind we have not even mentioned the irreconcilable contradictions between the Gospels when describing the SAME event or the noticeable evolution of Christianity from Mark to John (Mark is a Gospel which does not present Jesus as divine but John does present Jesus as divine).

Dishonesty – Christian apologetics is riddled with dishonest folk, thus lay people distrust Christian apologetics. Ergun Caner is the highest profile dishonest casualty in apologetics. It took a Muslim, Mohammad Khan, to blow the whistle on Caner’s dishonesty. Other notable dishonest folk within Christian apologetics include Kent Hovind, Jack Chick, Sam Shamoun, Father Zakaria Botros, David Wood, Robert Morey and Pastor Joseph Najm.

Book: James White on Islam

Sexism: A reason to change the Bible?

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26 comments:

Radical Moderate said...
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Radical Moderate said...

Run Rabbit Run

BlahBlah Snow

I see you are still hiding the shame of your god and prophet, since you seem to be unable or un willing to think logically and rationally I'm going to break this all down for you.

Do you agree or disagree with these statements.

1. The Iddah period is the time frame that a husband must abstain from having sex with his wife if he intends to divorce her.
2. The reason for this Iddah period is to ensure that a Muslims future X wife is not pregnant with his child before he divorces her.
3. Other then a miraculous conception like Jesus Christ, the only way a woman would be able to get pregnant in 7th century Arabia was via some sort of sexual intercourse, resulting in seminal fluid entering the vagina.
4. The Quran establishes how long a husband is to go with out sexual intercourse (iddah period) before he can divorce his wife.

Yahya if you could just please answer if you agree or disagree and if you disagree tell me what number you disagree with and why.


And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.

[65:5] اور تمہاری عورتوں میں سے جو حیض سے مایوس ہوچکی ہوں اگر تمہیں شک ہو تو ان کی عدت تین مہینے ہے اور اُن کی بھی جو حائضہ نہیں ہوئیں۔ اور جہاں تک حمل والیوں کا تعلق ہے اُن کی عدت وضعِ حمل ہے۔ اور جو اللہ کا تقویٰ اختیار کرے اللہ اپنے حکم سے اس کے لئے آسانی پیدا کردے گا۔

Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. ﴿see 2:228﴾ The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation. Their `Iddah is three months like those in menopause.

Al maududi
They may not have menstruated as yet either because of young age, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout life which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period of such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, that is three months from the time divorce was pronounced.

Al maududi
They may not have menstruated as yet either because of young age, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout life which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period of such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, that is three months from the time divorce was pronounced.

Radical Moderate said...

Run Rabbit Run

BlahBlah Snow

I see you are still hiding the shame of your god and prophet, since you seem to be unable or un willing to think logically and rationally I'm going to break this all down for you.

Do you agree or disagree with these statements.

1. The Iddah period is the time frame that a husband must abstain from having sex with his wife if he intends to divorce her.
2. The reason for this Iddah period is to ensure that a Muslims future X wife is not pregnant with his child before he divorces her.
3. Other then a miraculous conception like Jesus Christ, the only way a woman would be able to get pregnant in 7th century Arabia was via some sort of sexual intercourse, resulting in seminal fluid entering the vagina.
4. The Quran establishes how long a husband is to go with out sexual intercourse (iddah period) before he can divorce his wife.

Yahya if you could just please answer if you agree or disagree and if you disagree tell me what number you disagree with and why.


And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.

[65:5] اور تمہاری عورتوں میں سے جو حیض سے مایوس ہوچکی ہوں اگر تمہیں شک ہو تو ان کی عدت تین مہینے ہے اور اُن کی بھی جو حائضہ نہیں ہوئیں۔ اور جہاں تک حمل والیوں کا تعلق ہے اُن کی عدت وضعِ حمل ہے۔ اور جو اللہ کا تقویٰ اختیار کرے اللہ اپنے حکم سے اس کے لئے آسانی پیدا کردے گا۔

Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. ﴿see 2:228﴾ The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation. Their `Iddah is three months like those in menopause.

Al maududi
They may not have menstruated as yet either because of young age, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout life which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period of such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, that is three months from the time divorce was pronounced.

Al maududi
They may not have menstruated as yet either because of young age, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout life which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period of such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, that is three months from the time divorce was pronounced.

Radical Moderate said...

Run Rabbit Run

BlahBlah Snow

I see you are still hiding the shame of your god and prophet, since you seem to be unable or un willing to think logically and rationally I'm going to break this all down for you.

Do you agree or disagree with these statements.

1. The Iddah period is the time frame that a husband must abstain from having sex with his wife if he intends to divorce her.
2. The reason for this Iddah period is to ensure that a Muslims future X wife is not pregnant with his child before he divorces her.
3. Other then a miraculous conception like Jesus Christ, the only way a woman would be able to get pregnant in 7th century Arabia was via some sort of sexual intercourse, resulting in seminal fluid entering the vagina.
4. The Quran establishes how long a husband is to go with out sexual intercourse (iddah period) before he can divorce his wife.

Yahya if you could just please answer if you agree or disagree and if you disagree tell me what number you disagree with and why.


And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.

[65:5] اور تمہاری عورتوں میں سے جو حیض سے مایوس ہوچکی ہوں اگر تمہیں شک ہو تو ان کی عدت تین مہینے ہے اور اُن کی بھی جو حائضہ نہیں ہوئیں۔ اور جہاں تک حمل والیوں کا تعلق ہے اُن کی عدت وضعِ حمل ہے۔ اور جو اللہ کا تقویٰ اختیار کرے اللہ اپنے حکم سے اس کے لئے آسانی پیدا کردے گا۔

Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. ﴿see 2:228﴾ The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation. Their `Iddah is three months like those in menopause.

Al maududi
They may not have menstruated as yet either because of young age, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout life which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period of such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, that is three months from the time divorce was pronounced.

Al maududi
They may not have menstruated as yet either because of young age, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout life which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period of such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, that is three months from the time divorce was pronounced.

Radical Moderate said...

Run Rabbit Run

BlahBlah Snow

I see you are still hiding the shame of your god and prophet, since you seem to be unable or un willing to think logically and rationally I'm going to break this all down for you.

Do you agree or disagree with these statements.

1. The Iddah period is the time frame that a husband must abstain from having sex with his wife if he intends to divorce her.
2. The reason for this Iddah period is to ensure that a Muslims future X wife is not pregnant with his child before he divorces her.
3. Other then a miraculous conception like Jesus Christ, the only way a woman would be able to get pregnant in 7th century Arabia was via some sort of sexual intercourse, resulting in seminal fluid entering the vagina.
4. The Quran establishes how long a husband is to go with out sexual intercourse (iddah period) before he can divorce his wife.

Yahya if you could just please answer if you agree or disagree and if you disagree tell me what number you disagree with and why.


And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.

[65:5] اور تمہاری عورتوں میں سے جو حیض سے مایوس ہوچکی ہوں اگر تمہیں شک ہو تو ان کی عدت تین مہینے ہے اور اُن کی بھی جو حائضہ نہیں ہوئیں۔ اور جہاں تک حمل والیوں کا تعلق ہے اُن کی عدت وضعِ حمل ہے۔ اور جو اللہ کا تقویٰ اختیار کرے اللہ اپنے حکم سے اس کے لئے آسانی پیدا کردے گا۔

Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. ﴿see 2:228﴾ The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation. Their `Iddah is three months like those in menopause.

Al maududi
They may not have menstruated as yet either because of young age, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout life which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period of such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, that is three months from the time divorce was pronounced.

Al maududi
They may not have menstruated as yet either because of young age, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout life which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period of such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, that is three months from the time divorce was pronounced.

Radical Moderate said...

Run Rabbit Run

BlahBlah Snow

I see you are still hiding the shame of your god and prophet, since you seem to be unable or un willing to think logically and rationally I'm going to break this all down for you.

Do you agree or disagree with these statements.

1. The Iddah period is the time frame that a husband must abstain from having sex with his wife if he intends to divorce her.
2. The reason for this Iddah period is to ensure that a Muslims future X wife is not pregnant with his child before he divorces her.
3. Other then a miraculous conception like Jesus Christ, the only way a woman would be able to get pregnant in 7th century Arabia was via some sort of sexual intercourse, resulting in seminal fluid entering the vagina.
4. The Quran establishes how long a husband is to go with out sexual intercourse (iddah period) before he can divorce his wife.

Yahya if you could just please answer if you agree or disagree and if you disagree tell me what number you disagree with and why.


And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.

[65:5] اور تمہاری عورتوں میں سے جو حیض سے مایوس ہوچکی ہوں اگر تمہیں شک ہو تو ان کی عدت تین مہینے ہے اور اُن کی بھی جو حائضہ نہیں ہوئیں۔ اور جہاں تک حمل والیوں کا تعلق ہے اُن کی عدت وضعِ حمل ہے۔ اور جو اللہ کا تقویٰ اختیار کرے اللہ اپنے حکم سے اس کے لئے آسانی پیدا کردے گا۔

Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. ﴿see 2:228﴾ The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation. Their `Iddah is three months like those in menopause.

Al maududi
They may not have menstruated as yet either because of young age, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout life which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period of such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, that is three months from the time divorce was pronounced.

Al maududi
They may not have menstruated as yet either because of young age, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout life which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period of such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, that is three months from the time divorce was pronounced.

Radical Moderate said...

Run Rabbit Run

BlahBlah Snow

I see you are still hiding the shame of your god and prophet, since you seem to be unable or un willing to think logically and rationally I'm going to break this all down for you.

Do you agree or disagree with these statements.

1. The Iddah period is the time frame that a husband must abstain from having sex with his wife if he intends to divorce her.
2. The reason for this Iddah period is to ensure that a Muslims future X wife is not pregnant with his child before he divorces her.
3. Other then a miraculous conception like Jesus Christ, the only way a woman would be able to get pregnant in 7th century Arabia was via some sort of sexual intercourse, resulting in seminal fluid entering the vagina.
4. The Quran establishes how long a husband is to go with out sexual intercourse (iddah period) before he can divorce his wife.

Yahya if you could just please answer if you agree or disagree and if you disagree tell me what number you disagree with and why.


And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.

[65:5] اور تمہاری عورتوں میں سے جو حیض سے مایوس ہوچکی ہوں اگر تمہیں شک ہو تو ان کی عدت تین مہینے ہے اور اُن کی بھی جو حائضہ نہیں ہوئیں۔ اور جہاں تک حمل والیوں کا تعلق ہے اُن کی عدت وضعِ حمل ہے۔ اور جو اللہ کا تقویٰ اختیار کرے اللہ اپنے حکم سے اس کے لئے آسانی پیدا کردے گا۔

Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. ﴿see 2:228﴾ The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation. Their `Iddah is three months like those in menopause.

Al maududi
They may not have menstruated as yet either because of young age, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout life which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period of such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, that is three months from the time divorce was pronounced.

Al maududi
They may not have menstruated as yet either because of young age, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout life which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period of such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, that is three months from the time divorce was pronounced.

Radical Moderate said...

Run Rabbit Run

BlahBlah Snow

I see you are still hiding the shame of your god and prophet, since you seem to be unable or un willing to think logically and rationally I'm going to break this all down for you.

Do you agree or disagree with these statements.

1. The Iddah period is the time frame that a husband must abstain from having sex with his wife if he intends to divorce her.
2. The reason for this Iddah period is to ensure that a Muslims future X wife is not pregnant with his child before he divorces her.
3. Other then a miraculous conception like Jesus Christ, the only way a woman would be able to get pregnant in 7th century Arabia was via some sort of sexual intercourse, resulting in seminal fluid entering the vagina.
4. The Quran establishes how long a husband is to go with out sexual intercourse (iddah period) before he can divorce his wife.

Yahya if you could just please answer if you agree or disagree and if you disagree tell me what number you disagree with and why.


And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.

[65:5] اور تمہاری عورتوں میں سے جو حیض سے مایوس ہوچکی ہوں اگر تمہیں شک ہو تو ان کی عدت تین مہینے ہے اور اُن کی بھی جو حائضہ نہیں ہوئیں۔ اور جہاں تک حمل والیوں کا تعلق ہے اُن کی عدت وضعِ حمل ہے۔ اور جو اللہ کا تقویٰ اختیار کرے اللہ اپنے حکم سے اس کے لئے آسانی پیدا کردے گا۔

Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. ﴿see 2:228﴾ The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation. Their `Iddah is three months like those in menopause.

Al maududi
They may not have menstruated as yet either because of young age, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout life which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period of such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, that is three months from the time divorce was pronounced.

Al maududi
They may not have menstruated as yet either because of young age, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout life which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period of such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, that is three months from the time divorce was pronounced.

Radical Moderate said...

Run Rabbit Run

BlahBlah Snow

I see you are still hiding the shame of your god and prophet, since you seem to be unable or un willing to think logically and rationally I'm going to break this all down for you.

Do you agree or disagree with these statements.

1. The Iddah period is the time frame that a husband must abstain from having sex with his wife if he intends to divorce her.
2. The reason for this Iddah period is to ensure that a Muslims future X wife is not pregnant with his child before he divorces her.
3. Other then a miraculous conception like Jesus Christ, the only way a woman would be able to get pregnant in 7th century Arabia was via some sort of sexual intercourse, resulting in seminal fluid entering the vagina.
4. The Quran establishes how long a husband is to go with out sexual intercourse (iddah period) before he can divorce his wife.

Yahya if you could just please answer if you agree or disagree and if you disagree tell me what number you disagree with and why.


And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.

[65:5] اور تمہاری عورتوں میں سے جو حیض سے مایوس ہوچکی ہوں اگر تمہیں شک ہو تو ان کی عدت تین مہینے ہے اور اُن کی بھی جو حائضہ نہیں ہوئیں۔ اور جہاں تک حمل والیوں کا تعلق ہے اُن کی عدت وضعِ حمل ہے۔ اور جو اللہ کا تقویٰ اختیار کرے اللہ اپنے حکم سے اس کے لئے آسانی پیدا کردے گا۔

Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. ﴿see 2:228﴾ The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation. Their `Iddah is three months like those in menopause.

Al maududi
They may not have menstruated as yet either because of young age, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout life which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period of such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, that is three months from the time divorce was pronounced.

Al maududi
They may not have menstruated as yet either because of young age, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout life which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period of such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, that is three months from the time divorce was pronounced.

Radical Moderate said...

Run Rabbit Run

BlahBlah Snow

I see you are still hiding the shame of your god and prophet, since you seem to be unable or un willing to think logically and rationally I'm going to break this all down for you.

Do you agree or disagree with these statements.

1. The Iddah period is the time frame that a husband must abstain from having sex with his wife if he intends to divorce her.
2. The reason for this Iddah period is to ensure that a Muslims future X wife is not pregnant with his child before he divorces her.
3. Other then a miraculous conception like Jesus Christ, the only way a woman would be able to get pregnant in 7th century Arabia was via some sort of sexual intercourse, resulting in seminal fluid entering the vagina.
4. The Quran establishes how long a husband is to go with out sexual intercourse (iddah period) before he can divorce his wife.

Yahya if you could just please answer if you agree or disagree and if you disagree tell me what number you disagree with and why.


And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.

[65:5] اور تمہاری عورتوں میں سے جو حیض سے مایوس ہوچکی ہوں اگر تمہیں شک ہو تو ان کی عدت تین مہینے ہے اور اُن کی بھی جو حائضہ نہیں ہوئیں۔ اور جہاں تک حمل والیوں کا تعلق ہے اُن کی عدت وضعِ حمل ہے۔ اور جو اللہ کا تقویٰ اختیار کرے اللہ اپنے حکم سے اس کے لئے آسانی پیدا کردے گا۔

Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. ﴿see 2:228﴾ The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation. Their `Iddah is three months like those in menopause.

Al maududi
They may not have menstruated as yet either because of young age, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout life which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period of such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, that is three months from the time divorce was pronounced.

Al maududi
They may not have menstruated as yet either because of young age, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout life which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period of such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, that is three months from the time divorce was pronounced.

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