Thursday, 26 December 2013

Dr. Shabir Ally On Christmas

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Radical Moderate said...

From Basam Zawaldis FB page commenting on a article "Muslim-Americans increasingly celebrate Christmas.

Imagine if popular Muslim speakers in America would clearly and loudly speak out against this, or... are they popular in he first place for not speaking out against such a thing?

Another remark by Basam Zalwaldi

"No joke... thee are many Muslims who celebrate and feel festive more during Christmas, than on EID."

From Joshua Evans FB page...

One of the biggest threats to the success of this Ummah is not from it's outside enemies but from within from the so-called "moderate Muslims" who want to make Islam conform to their feelings and opinions rather than conforming themselves to the Quran and sunnah. When Muslims are united upon the truth we are never defeated but this disgusting conformist mentality is exactly what our enemies want. A diluted Ummah that they can do with as they please while these so called moderates clap for them and kiss their hands. The prophet(s) said "whoever imitates a people is of them"

Joshua Evans also wrote...

On thing that sickens my heart is watching muslims have love and affection for disbelief and disbelievers and being so quick to jump to the aid of falsehood. We are to have aversion and hatred for shirk and disbelief and falsehood. Is called al baraa and too many people have lost it sadly. Dawah is about telling the truth no matter what anyone thinks of feels about it. Any dissenters please be ready to supply ample proof of your positions from the Quran and sunnah.

Alexander said...

The following is a summary translation of a post taken from

Responding to Merry Christmas by Sheik Uthamin

Question: What is the ruling on congratulating the disbelievers on their Christmas celebration? And how do we respond to them if they greet us with it. And is it permissible to go to the places where they are having celebrations for that purpose. And does the person (Muslim) take a sin if he does the aforementioned without any intent? Rather he only does it being courteous, or due to shyness or due to being put in an awkward situation, or due to some other reasons. And is it permissible to resemble them in this?

Answer: Congratulating the disbelievers on their Christmas celebration or other than that from their religious holidays is not permissible according to the consensus. As was related by Ibn Al Qayim, may ALLAH have mercy upon him, in his book ?The ruling on the people beneath the Muslim protection?, when he said: As for congratulating the disbelievers for their religious ceremonies that have kufr (disbelief) attached to it, then it is not permissible according to the consensus. For example congratulating them for their holidays or their fasts, so the person says, ?May you have a bless holiday?, or he wishes them well for their holiday or something like that. So this, if the one who says it escapes from falling into kufr (disbelief), is(still) from the impermissible things. And it is on the same level as congratulating them for prostrating to the cross. Rather it is a greater sin with ALLAH. And it is a more severe abomination than to congratulate them for drinking alcohol and killing someone, committing illegal sexual intercourse and things of this nature. And many of the people who don?t have any deen(or respect for the deen) fall into this. And he doesn?t know the ugliness (evil) of what he has done. So whoever congratulates a person for committing sins, or innovations, or disbelief, then he has exposed himself to the hate, wrath (anger) of ALLAH. ?End of the Sheik?s (Ibn Al Qayim) speech may ALLAH have mercy upon him--

Alexander said...

(Sheik Uthamin continues)

So congratulating the disbelievers on the religious holidays is not permissible, as shown by the proof brought by Ibn Al Qayim. Because in it, (congratulating the kufar on their religious holidays) is an approval for what they are upon from their kufr ceremonies, and showing them that you are please with it. Even if the person is not pleased with the actual kufr itself, it is also not permissible for the Muslim to be pleased with kufr ceremonies, or to congratulate them for it. Because ALLAH the Exalted is not pleased with that, as ALLAH the Exalted says, ?If you disbelieve, then verily, ALLAH is not in need of you, He likes not disbelief for His slaves. And if you are grateful (by being believers), He is pleased therewith for you.? (chapter 39 verse 7) And the Exalted says, ?This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favor upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion.? (Chapter 5 verse 3) So congratulating them with this is haram whether this person is your co worker or not.
So if they greet us with their holiday greeting we don?t respond to them with it, because it?s not our holiday, and they are holidays that ALLAH is not pleased with, and because it is something that is either innovated in their religion, or it was legislated but has since been abrogated by the deen of Islam that which Muhammad peace and blessing be upon him, was sent with to all of the creation. And He (ALLAH) says about it (Islam) ?And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers? (Chapter 3 verse 85)
And for the Muslim to accept their invitations to these occasions (holiday celebrations) is haram. (Impermissible) Because this is worst than congratulating them with it, because this would entail participating with them in this. Also it is haram for the Muslim to imitate the disbelievers by establishing celebrations for these occasions, or to exchanges gifts, or to distribute sweets, or trays of food, or to stop work or anything like this. Due to the statement of the Prophet, peace and blessing be upon him, ?Whoever imitates a people is from them?. Sheik of Islam Ibn Taymia said in his book, Follow the straight path and oppose the path to the fire,?Imitating them in some of their celebration causes happiness in their hearts for what they are upon from false hood. And it is possible that this might encourage them to take advantage of this opportunity to humiliate the weak minded?. ?End of his (Sheik Ibn Taymia) speech. May ALLAH have mercy upon him.

And whoever does anything from this is a sinner. And it is the same whether he did it being courteous, or seeking friendship, or due to shyness, or any other reason, because this is from being deceitful in the deen of ALLAH. And this is from the reasons that reinforce the psyche of the disbelievers and to make them proud of their deen.

Alexander said...
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Alexander said...

Ibn Taymiyyah mentions:

“The Sharee’ah ruling is that Muslims should not do any particular thing on the religious festivals of unbelievers which they do not normally do in other days. Rather, they should treat these days like any other ordinary day. The Prophet (saw) had prohibited his Companions from sports and enjoyment on two particular days on which pre-Islamic Arabs used to hold sports.
Likewise, he forbade them to sacrifice their animals at the places where the polytheists used to celebrate their festivals.”
He then goes no to mention:

“The unbelievers celebrate with much pomp and show a festival on the 25th of December in the belief that tr is the birth day of prophet Jesus (alayhis-salaam). The rituals associated with the Christians, fo rexample, lighting fire, preparing sweet dishes, etc. are undesirable. It is an article of faith with Christians that it is a holy day. This view doe snot have any basis in Islaam. This festival is not reported in the days of our pious predecessors. On later days, Muslims appear to have borrowed it from the Christians…
This is a Christin belief and Musilms are forbidden to entertain it.”

He then goes no to mention:
“Muslims are prohibited from joining these religious festivals of the people of the book and other unbelievers; on two grounds:
First: it represents a resemblance to the unbelievers.
Second: these are acts of innovations.
All such festivals and fairs which have come to vogue as a result of innovation are to be treated in the same way, whether these resemble the practice of the unbelievers or not.”

[Taken from "Mukhtasar Iqtidhaa' As-Siraat Al-Mustaqeem" by Ibn Taymiyyah, p. 17-18]

Alexander said...

I'm surprised at you research Radmod! Good job. I just wanted to add that none of these, Shabir, Bazam nor Yoshua are scholars that have any authority to issue legal rulings, even if they are right. But this time Shabir made a mistake, a big mistake. May Allah forgive him and guide him.