Showing posts with label Unitarianism. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Unitarianism. Show all posts

Saturday, 9 April 2016

Notes from Sean Finnegan's interview with Patrick Navas: Is the Trinity Biblical


Patrick Navas sees John 3:16 teaching the subordination of Christ to God. That's to say Christ was sent to the world by God. He doesn't find it teaching Jesus to be consubstantial with God.

Patrick Navas felt texts Trinitarians appeal to were simple to counter.




His three main points against the Trinity belief:

1. Doctrine of the Trinity is not articulated in the Bible. Trinitarian theologians admit this.


There's a distinction between Biblical Christians and Creedal Christians. Those claiming Sola Scriptura and keeping the creeds aren't really being true to the idea of Sola Scriptura.

2. Identity of God and Jesus distinct from each other.


In 1 Cor 8:6 Paul spells out the identity of God and identifies Him as the Father:

yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

In Acts 2:36 Peter is purported to have said:

"Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah."

The authority Jesus had was not due to his ontology but rather it was given to him by God. A derived lordhsip. The "lord" has a God. Jesus has a God.

3. Holy Spirit

There are some texts (mostly in John) which ascribe personal qualities to the Spirit but those texts can be understood as personification as per Wisdom in Proverbs 8.

[Note: The Jews, as articulated by rabbi Tovia Singer, believe the Holy Spirit is the active force of God]

Through Gregory of Nazianzen, as late as 380, we see there was a running debate as to what to believe about the Holy Spirit. How can there have been a Trinity teaching passed down through apostles concerning the Holy Spirt if Christians were undecided on what to believe about the Holy Spirit?

"Gregory of Nazianzum could still say in 380, Some of our theologians consider the Holy Spirit to be a certain mode of the Divine energy, others a creature of God, others God Himself. Others say they do not know which opinion they ought to accept, out of reverence for the Scriptures which have not clearly explained this point."


If the Trinity is not explicitly taught in the NT how can it be reconciled as an essential teaching of Chrisianity?


Tovia Singer: Does the New Testament Teach Jesus is God?

Why Islam



Wednesday, 1 July 2015

Interesting, for Trinitarian Christians - Dreams


Unitarian Christians and Muslims having dreams which show Jesus (p) not to be God. Unitarian Christians and Muslims believe Jesus is not God, the Trinity is a false doctrine and that there is only one God!

Dreams Against the Doctrine of the Trinity


[QURAN MIRACLES] The Miracles of the Number 19 in Quran | Dr. Shabir Ally




Wednesday, 26 March 2014

For Gay Men: What's Better Islam or Unitarian Universalism?

Via email, I was recently challenged with the question of, what is better for a man with homosexual desires; Islam or Unitarian Universalism?
 
Obviously Islam is better for gay men.
 
Think about it, in Unitarian Universalism (UU) there's no fixed teaching of self control and self deprivation. These teachings of self control where one shuns the destroyers of spirituality (such as excessive-eating, drugs, fornication, adultery, gambling, alcohol etc.) all aid the spiritual development of a person. These teachings are within Islam and indeed are fixed yet in Unitarian Universalism these teachings are not present as fixed rules. This is a huge problem within Unitarian Universalism; the destroyers of spirituality are not forbidden. Thus we have one faith which comes with fixed spiritual practices coupled with defined parimeters which keep one away from the destroyers of spirituality whilst the other faith (Unitarian Universalism) comes with no fixed spiritual practices and no defined parimeters to keep one away from the destroyers of spirituality. Clearly Islam is more appealing for the one who wants spiritual nourishment.

Because of the lack of these teachings, in Unitarian Universalism, one of the pitfalls for a homosexual is that they end up acting upon their lusts. Not only that, the severe danger of them becoming promiscuous homosexuals is noticeable - homosexuals are generally more prone to promiscuous behaviour than  heterosexuals. Therefore, in Unitarian Universalism not only is the gay man's spirituality impacted on negatively but the gay man's mental and physical health could well be in jeopardy.


Mental health of the gay man

Unitarian Universalism opens the door for promiscuity for both heterosexuals and homosexuals. The emotional pain it causes people is one thing but psychologists are zoning on other mental health issues arising from promiscuity

"Promiscuity is one example of a class of high-risk behaviors,” says Deirdre Lee Fitzgerald, PhD, assistant professor of psychology at Eastern Connecticut State University in Willimantic. “It is comparable to, and may coincide with, behaviors such as heavy drinking, gambling, and other thrill-seeking behaviors like driving too fast."
 
Why do people have many sexual partners? It's exciting, Fitzgerald says, or, among their peers, it’s a kind of activity that brings them status. Another reason: It helps “them avoid dealing with other challenging emotional issues.”
 
Here we see Islam looks after the gay man's mental health whilst Unitarian Universalism does not.
 
Physical health of the gay man

What do I mean by Unitarian Universalism putting gay men into physical harm? Well, without those teachings of avoidance and self-control then not only is the gay man given a 'licence' to act upon his desires but he's left unchecked too thus meaning homosexual promiscuity.
 
Unitarian Universalism, as we have discussed, opens the door for sexual promiscuity. Many of us are aware of the problems in the Western world of sexually transmitted disease due to an acceptance of promiscuity. UU does nothing to protect the gay man from sexually transmitted diseases - despite the incidence of HIV estimated to be 50 times greater than the incidence of HIV within the heterosexual population:
 
According to Dr. Lansky, then, based on the 4 percent figure, the CDC estimates that in 2007 there were 692.2 new HIV cases per 100,000 homosexual men - or fifty times more cases than the rest of the population.
 
Is Unitarian Universalism attempting to protect the gay man from this tragedy? I don't see it. In Islam I do see the rules which keep people from such an tragedy.
 
Spirituality in Islam
 
In Islam Muslims have to pray 5 times a day at set periods during the 24 hour day. You drop everything and remove yourself from the material world and stand before God. The Buddhists talk about distancing yourself from the dunya (world) - yet in Islam you can see it and practice - it actually happens in Islam in a practical fashion. Of course, you can pray more than 5 times and perform dhikr (remembrance of God) throughout your day as a Muslim. However, Universalism does not offer you anything set spiritual framework. There's no framework for praying - no nothing. It basically leaves it to the individual to do what he/she wants. We all know what happens in society when people are left to do what they want without any governance - anarchy!
 
We have already touched on the fact Islam eliminates the destroyers of spirituality whilst Universalism does not. Which one is better for one's spirituality? It's obviously Islam.

Summary
 
We see Islam looks after the gay man's spirituality health, physical health and mental health. Unitarian Universalism does not.
 
Which one is better for the gay man? Islam.
 
Christians having dreams and converting to Islam:http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/christians-are-having-dreams-and.html

Invitation to Islam

Jesus taught people to do the Will of God (according to Mark 3:35) in order to become his brothers, mothers or sisters. A Muslim means one who submits to the Will of God. Do you want to become a brother of Jesus? If yes, become a Muslim.

Learn about Islam:
http://www.thedeenshow.com
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