Showing posts with label Nabeel Qureshi. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Nabeel Qureshi. Show all posts

Friday, 6 October 2017

Advice For Muslims On Dealing With Christian Anti-Muslim Sentiment...

Part of an email advising somebody who was being run down by evangelical Christians attacking Islam:

These people actively look for people who are all jittery when it comes to their emotional polemics against the Faith. They can sense who lacks confidence and self-esteem especially in person (body language) and even on the net with the way somebody is interacting.

There’s a lot of psychology behind evangelical Christian missionaries who try to rob Muslims of faith in the Revelation of Allah. They actively look for people who struggle with English because they think they are easier targets for various reasons (i.e. the Christian can conflate the West with Christianity and thus misappropriate secular Western achievement to Christianity, it’s easier for them to dominate and manipulate a conversation if the other person has a weaker command of the language and we both know that there is an undercurrent in the West which portrays people not educated in Western institutes as lesser thinkers), their ideal is those with inferiority complexes – inferiority complexes when it comes to the West and folks who have elements of self hate within them. A great way to deal with these missionaries is to go head on and use the premises in their arguments against them.

For instance, they will talk about the Prophet being involved in war and put it alongside the Jesus of the Gospel (A Jesus who was never the head of a state nor of a group large enough to wrestle control of the region away from the oppressive Romans so it’s the fallacy of false comparisons although if that’s what they want to do, be their guest and compare Prophet Muhammad with Trinitarian Jesus!).

The premise here is somebody using violence and warfare cannot be from God. Point at the Prophets in the OT – Moses – who used violence and warfare (e.g vs the Midianites in Numbers). But go further, talk about the Trinity idea teaching Jesus is the 2nd person of the Trinity thus Trinitarians essentially believe Jesus ordered the killing of women and children (1 Samuel 15:3).

Likewise, for the issue of polygamy, tell them Jesus did not forbid it according to Biblical Trinitarians and appears to allow it (Exodus 21:10) and he even says he GAVE David his wives according to Trinitarians (2 Samuel 12:8). In this instance you can also point to one of the sparks for their breakaway church movement, Martin Luther. Luther is on record saying nothing in Christian scripture forbids polygamy. [It will be a really Westernised Christian who brings the issue of polygamy up and he/she may find this very difficult and thus jump at the One Flesh verse (Gen 2:24) – they believe MOSES wrote such yet he had more than one wife so clearly the author’s understanding of the one flesh verse could not have been a proscription of polygyny].

Let’s talk about female slaves, they will bring this up. They may have even been taught to say Muslims are allowed to rape female slaves. Of course this is a prurient lie as part of their propaganda of demonisation (but the Christian you’re speaking to may not know this, so be gentle). To respond,say, “OK clearly you believe in the rights and well treatment of slaves, especially female slaves, I respect that as that is what we as Muslims are taught. But before I show you our teachings I want to share what Trinitarians believe Jesus allowed with respect to slaves, this may sound shocking so do look it up and think about it when you have some time later on, he allowed the severe beating of female slaves as long as they got up after a couple of days (Ex 21:20-21). Female slaves were taken as captives of war and married in the OT. There are some secularists, and perhaps liberal Christians, who say this was rape in the Bible but for me I don’t believe God allows rape as we are taught in the Quran (Quran 4:36) to treat slaves well and the Prophetic teaching (Sahih Muslim) is that one cannot even slap a slave – clearly rape would transgress those teachings thus cannot be allowed.”

Notice, what we’ve done my dear, we’ve started planting seeds and educating the Christian friend.

Don’t say any of this aggressively to them, say it how an educator would. You’re the teacher here. You’ve got to be the guide here. This Christian is in severe spiritual danger and his reckless elders may have effectively nudged him on to the precipice of leaving Biblical Christianity and the Abrahamic tradition.

Remember, if they come to you, your demeanour is key, you MUST be confident. Don’t be all jittery, they will sense it and that’s what they want to see. Speak with clarity and purpose. Be smart and informed, if you’re not, they will pick up on it and they will not be influenced as much by you, in fact they will take it as a cue to start influencing you! Be sophisticated and focussed, don’t bang on about America bombing Iraq like some emotional wreck – that’s not the time or place. The number of Muslims I see rattling on about Iraq, British and American imperialism in these discussions is staggering, to be honest it’s neither helpful nor relevant. It can come across as cringe-worthy and embarrassing. The Christian did not come to you as a representative of America, in many cases the Christian is not even American and is against Trump, Bush etc.. It’s a theological discussion, not political. There’s a time and place for remonstrating against the bombings of innocent people in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Sudan, Pakistan etc. and the contentious issue of Palestine...this discussion is not that time or place.

Take on the role of the educator in the dialogue. The evangelical missionaries have been set up to try and rob you of your faith using secular arguments – their leaders saw how the secularists decimated Christendom in Western Europe and now they have borrowed that polemical style from them because it was effective against their own faith! The only reason why it was effective was because the Christians had been conditioned to think of Western civilisation and Western laws as the pinnacle thus the Church ended up allowing divorce (their teachings do not allow divorce except in the case of adultery), staying silent on sex before marriage and even inviting Bill and Bob, and Jill and Jean, to come into their churches to get “married”. They did all this to appease their congregations who became Westerners at heart rather than true Bible believers.

They’ve lost confidence in their Book. Don’t allow them to try and do the same to you with respect to Islam.

ALWAYS REMEMBER: These evangelical Christians have been conned, they’ve been conned by “Christian” folks who have given them a load of polemics against Islam which, if applied consistently, would mean the Christian would reject Christianity and Biblical teachings. These Christian missionaries, once they wake up and start thinking about what they’re saying, are in danger of leaving the Abrahamic tradition because their Christian leaders was set them up to stumble. The evangelical Christian NEEDS you in this instance. You can be a light for them and a light for their nations. But you’ve got to be smart, sophisticated, educated, confident and concerned. YOU can do it.

Geza Vermes on How Jesus Would Have Reacted to Trinitarian Christians

For Christians Who Call Muslims Rag-Heads...

Are Evengalicals Ignoring Sola Scriptura When Talking About Prophecies in the Bible?

Tovia Singer: Does the New Testament Teach Jesus is God?

 
 

Tuesday, 3 October 2017

A Difficulty On the Christian Idea of Salvation and Forgiveness


Asghar Bukhari writes on his FB about his experience with a Nigerian Christian:

I met a Nigerian Christian today. Well somehow [the] conversation turns to Jews backing israel. He starts telling me the Bible says God supports Jews against their enemies.

So i say, hang about. Didnt they kill your God?

He replies yes but that was Prophesy. God ordained it. And if God hadn't died he wouldn't be saved.

So i say, 'So God told them to kill Him? So you think they did God a favour by killing Him?

He actually said "Yes its Good they killed God"

He had no problem with Jews taking and cleansing the Palestinians because 'Jesus gave it to the Jews

African Christians are some of the most brainwashed people on earth. I mean how can you believe in a religion that nuts.



My thoughts


I have actually thought about this before, I don't believe this Nigerian Christian has drifted away from Biblical Christianity in what he said with what he said about Jews killing God.Christians do effectively believe God wanted the Jews and Romans to kill him - it was a prerequisite for salvation. Thus, in some way without these murderers this “gift of salvation” Christians believe in could not happen.

I've always thought why aren't those who are said to kill Jesus not considered saints as they are responsible for the salvation of billions indirectly according to Christianity? How can they be considered to be in Hell when every Christian is indebted to them indirectly for their salvation?

There is the ethical question here, why is God’s forgiveness and gift of salvation in need of Jewish and Roman murderers? If you truly believe a blood sacrifice is really needed and God really needs to die for sins then why believe God provokes people to murder Him as this means salvation and God’s forgiveness is dependent on murderers in some way, shape or form?

In Islam, God can forgive people without having to be killed by murderers. Which concept of God is better, the Christian one or the Islamic one, be honest?

There are some tough questions here, think about them and ask your pastors.




Note: A Christian friend, Denis Giron, did share this from the Catholic tradition: Catholic history has a tradition that the Roman soldier who stabbed Christ with the spear was a man named Longinus, who later converted to Christianity. He was (and in some pockets still is) revered as a saint. Admittedly, he was revered based on the belief that he converted..


Synoptic Gospels and the Idea of a Pre-Existant Jesus?



 
Tovia Singer: Does the New Testament Teach Jesus is God?



Tuesday, 19 September 2017

Was David Wood Using Nabeel Qureshi's Death for Hatred?

We had to rebuke David for a video which he made using Nabeel Qureshi's last recorded words to attack the Prophet Muhammad, I hope serious-minded Christians will rebuke David too.



In David Wood's video he cited a hadith of Prophet Muhammad cursing people who take the graves of Prophets as places of worship. He misrepresented this. This is obviously out of concern for keeping Monotheism intact. This shows the value the Prophet had for pure Monotheism. He used some of his last words to remind people of the importance of pure Abrahamic Monotheism and help them keep away from shirk (a departure from pure Abrahamic Monotheism) - making places of worship over the graves of Prophets could be seen as leading to shirk.

The Prophet Muhammad's (pbuh) curse on the Jews and Christians was not his last words (just some of his last words), it was not done out of hatred or rancour for them (and it was not directed at all of them), but instead he was relating to those around him his utter rejection of people worshiping prophet's graves. (i.e. indirectly telling them not to worship his grave.)

The Jews (and Christians!) are taught about pure Monotheism and its importance in the Bible. First Commandment that all Jews accept: Ex 20:3 “You shall have no other gods before[a] me".

The Prophet, amongst his last words, also reminded people to be spiritual and never forget the prayer: “The prayer, the prayer! And fear Allaah with regard to those whom your right hands possess.”
As for the Prophet's grave, here is a link to what the scholars say on this - it is clearly not a curse against Muslims who pray in that mosque!:
https://islamqa.info/en/65944

David also mentioned Jesus and his purported last words. Firstly, as Christian scholars admit that the Gospel authors are not reliable and the Gospel of John puts words into Jesus' mouth that he never actually said it's highly dubious for David Wood to talk like he knew what Jesus' last words. See this video of a Christian scholar admitting this about John's Gospel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0zkTTNGJLQ

David also makes out he believes in a Jesus who is all about peace and love. Actually, Trinitarian Christians believe Jesus allowed the severe beating of female slaves as long as they got up in a couple of days and they believe he used and will use violence, David Wood's Hypocrisy on Jesus' Violence According to the Bible: http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.co.uk/2017/06/david-woods-hypocrisy-on-jesus-violence.html

For the David Wood refutation section see here for over 70 rebukes, refutations and responses to him (scroll down and go to older posts to see the earlier ones):
http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/David%20Wood

Despicable David Wood Rebuked For Using Nabeel Qureshi's Death for Hatred

This video has also been uploaded here and here



David Wood may think he was just going toe-to-toe with trolls who were winding him up about Nabeel Qureshi with insensitive comments but he just played right in to their hands. Trolls exist on the internet. Don't play their game of hate and mockery.

James White Questions David Wood's Wisdom

Does Surah Al Fateha Curse Jews and Christians? Christian Missionary Claim Refuted!

Synoptic Gospels and the Idea of a Pre-Existant Jesus?


 
Tovia Singer: Does the New Testament Teach Jesus is God?

Why Islam



Tuesday, 24 January 2017

Is Nabeel Qureshi's Wife Ravi Zacharias' Daughter? No.

A Christian street preacher, who I was in conversation with over the phone, was under the impression Ravi Zacharias is Nabeel Qureshi's father-in-law.

This is not true. Nabeel is married to a lady called Michelle Qureshi. Whilst Ravi has two daughters: Naomi and Sarah.

Even as RZIM has seen phenomenal growth around the world, it remains a family ministry as Nathan’s sister Sarah Zacharias Davis serves as executive director of RZIM, his sister Naomi as a Vice President and Director of Wellspring International (a RZIM outreach), and his wife Sarah Parker Zacharias as a Marketing and Development Associate at Wellspring. [From an interview with Nathan Zacharias on Patheos]


Nabeel Qureshi's Controverisal Comments

Did Ravi Zacharias Spread a False Story About Ahmed Deedat?

Ravi Zacharias Scandal: Not A Dr and Not a Visiting Scholar at Cambridge

Nabeel Qureshi, James White and Ravi Zacharias: Is Using the Rape of Nigerian Girls to Attack Islam a Christian Act?

Nabeel Qureshi: True Christians Can Perfom Miracles Greater than Jesus!

JD Hall: Nabeel Qureshi is making Christians look Stupid

How Jay Smith, Nabeel Qureshi, Sam Shamoun and David Wood Contriubute to the Apostasy of Christians

Nabeel Qureshi: Is the Trinity in Genesis 1:26

Nabeel Qureshi's Friend on Doctrine of Taqiyyah

Indonesian Muslims Converting to Christianity?

[QURAN MIRACLES] The Miracles of the Number 19 in Quran | Dr. Shabir Ally

ISIS Members Having Dreams of Jesus?

People having dreams and visions showing Jesus is not divine

Russell Brand Exposes Muslim Terrorism Percentage

Nabeel Qureshi's Controverisal Comments


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In chapter 15 of No God but One: Allah or Jesus? Dr Nabeel Qureshi writes distastefully about Shk. Ahmed Deedat:

Along with Deedat's fame grew his inflammatory rhetoric. As a response to the pope's positive stance to interfaith dialogue, Deedat challenged John Paul II to a debate. When the pope refused, Deedat published a pamphlet titled "His Holiness Plays Hide and Seek with Muslims." He also famously began to argue that the Bible was pornographic. Further inflammatory speech during a Good Friday lecture earned him the castigation of the Australian government, and he was even banned from entry into Singapore.

In 1996, at the height of his career, Deedat suffered a severe stroke. Among other neurological deficiencies, Deedat was no longer able to speak, and he remained bedridden until his passing in 2005. Some suggested that God had punished him for his words, and other rumours spread that Deedat repudiated Islam just before his passing. Within the Islamic world both these suggestions are resolutely dismissed. Deedat's fame continues to grow, even after his death, into legendary status.

The problem here is Nabeel lists 3 inflammatory incidents in the career of Shk. Deedat and then he veers off to talk about how he died. OK, not such a big problem...yet. The problem is, straight after this he inexplicably throws in a statement informing the reader what "some" people suggested after his death. He leaves it open ended - he doesn't opine on  what these "some” people suggested so we don't know whether he thinks there could be truth in what these "some" or "other" people suggested. He doesn't say who these "some”  people are so we don't know whether he's talking about internet trolls or serious theologians and scholars.

As a professional author one suspects the editing and proof-reading assistance Dr Nabeel Qureshi gets is considerable and the fact he is an experienced author one is left aghast at how this statement wound up in there - it's almost like a deliberate ploy to sow seeds into the mind of the reader. Seeds suggesting that these "some” people may be right!

Here's the thing, a teacher could walk into a classroom full of kids and start teaching them about the moon. These kids don't know anything about the moon and they are relying on the teacher to teach them. If the teacher slips in the old "some people say" tactic and leaves it at that he/she could get the kids going away thinking the moon may be made out of cheese:  "The moon is not a planet, it's a satellite of the Earth and it rotates at 10 miles per hour. Some people say the moon is made of cheese. OK folks let's open up those maths books, that's enough about the moon!" Do you see what the teacher did there? The teacher tossed a few facts about the moon so the kids were seriously invested in what was being discussed and then boom, the "some people say" tactic is tossed in!

The suggestion Shk. Deedat repudiated Islam while bed-ridden

Let's be clear here, these "other” people who claim Shk Deedat repudiated Islam on his deathbed are internet trolls. There's no evidence for this whatsoever. Why is Nabeel paying heed to  baseless claims from internet trolls in a  professional publication?

In fact just by reading his biography or news reports concerning Shk Deedat's passing away Nabeel can see this claim is a load of nonsense as he was serving Islam even whilst bed-ridden up to his passing away: August 8 marks 10 years since Deedat's death of kidney failure at the age of 87. He was bedridden for the final 10 years of his life, after suffering a stroke that left him paralysed and unable to speak. Though doctors initially gave him little chance to live, Deedat continued to engage in religious work until his death - communicating by using a grid of the alphabet, which he used to spell out words letter-by-letter by signalling with his eyes. [Al Jazeera]

The punished by God claim

More upsetting, why is Dr Nabeel Qureshi leaving the door open for Christians (I’d imagine the bulk of his readership will be Christian) to think Shk. Deedat's stroke and subsequent paralysis was divine punishment for his words against Christianity. The "some suggested that God had punished him for his words" statement is a minefield of problems. Nabeel doesn't tell us his theological views on this. Why leave it open ended at such a critical juncture?

You know his Christian readers are left wondering whether (or even believing!)  Jesus punishes people with strokes for things they have said against Trinitarian Christianity. Why did Nabeel mention these people's suggestion and remain silent on it? I’ve been aware of this Christian internet smear to try and undermine the impact of Shk. Ahmed Deedat’s work for a number of years. I wrote about this smear years ago.

Dr Nabeel Qureshi is medically trained so he will know that it really isn’t anything unusual for an aged man of 78 (yes, he was 78 when he had the stroke!) to have a stroke as yearly “around 110,000 people have a stroke in England and it is the third largest cause of death”. It's even less unusual for an aged man of a south Asian ethnicity (Shk. Deedat was of Indian origin) as this ethnicity along with those of African and Caribbean heritage are predisposed to developing higher blood pressure thus more likely to have strokes! [Medical information and stats on stroke taken from the NHS]

So why the big deal about him having a stroke at 78? On top of this, Dr Nabeel Qureshi would know having communication problems after a stroke is common: Many people have communication problems after a stroke.  About a third of stroke survivors have some difficulty with speaking or understanding what others say [Source]

But, the fact he had problems speaking is neither here nor there as Shk. Deedat was blessed by God to be able to communicate still to the extent of debating members of the clergy whilst bed-ridden:

Despite his condition, Deedat was able to discuss politics and debate with members of the Christian clergy who visited him. Using a grid of the alphabet, Deedat signalled with a blink for 'yes' or a widening of the eyes for 'no', guiding his son to spell out words letter by letter. [Al Jazeera]

Dr Nabeel Qureshi and these “some” people need to be careful as this opens the door to stigmatise all stroke victims and all those, young and old, who are disabled and have difficulties speaking. If Dr Nabeel just doesn’t want to directly say he believes Jesus *may* have punished Shk. Deedat due to it impacting the “Jesus loves you” emotionalism Dr Nabeel and his colleagues preach then why be indirect about it by hiding behind internet trolls?

If Nabeel truly believes this *may* be the case, why not say it upfront? Right now, it's all rather unclear but it doesn't paint Nabeel in a positive hue as it stands. Well, let’s wait for Dr Nabeel Qureshi to answer. He’s producing vlogs – I’ve been keeping tabs on them as well as praying and fasting for him -  so it will not be an issue for him to spend a couple of mins just explaining his comments in his book as this is both upsetting and disappointing.


Questions for Nabeel to touch on with grace
  1. Why did you write about what some people suggest (internet trolls) with, what appears to be, strategic placement to sow the seeds of thought that these “suggestions” may be true?
  2. Do you believe Jesus may have punished Shk. Deedat, yes or no? I know as a Trinitarian you do believe Jesus allowed the severe beating of female slaves in Exodus 21:20-21 and ordered the killing of children and mothers in 1 Samuel 15:3.
  3. Will you apologise for any offense caused?
Ending with positivity and respect

A few thoughts on Shk. Ahmed Deedat. He showed tenacity in character and conviction in Allah when he was afflicted at an old age with health problems.

If anything, Shk. Deedat should be heralded as an inspiration to people who are suffering from health problems – he not only continued with his work but he also continued to resolutely affirm Allah’s mercy:

Right up to his death, Deedat was studying. He dictated tracts and continued his communication with people around the world."The latter part of the shaikh's career was extremely focused," Hendricks said. In his room, Deedat had two framed quotations by his bedside. One was a verse from the Quran, Chapter 21, The Prophets: "And (remember) Job, when He cried to his Lord, 'Truly distress has seized me, but Thou art the Most Merciful of those that are merciful'." The second read: "There is no end to what a man can achieve if he does not mind who gets the credit." [Al Jazeera]

Did Ravi Zacharias Spread a False Story About Ahmed Deedat?

Does Surah Al Fateha Curse Jews and Christians? Christian Missionary Claim Refuted!

Nabeel Qureshi: True Christians Can Perfom Miracles Greater than Jesus!

JD Hall: Nabeel Qureshi is making Christians look Stupid

How Jay Smith, Nabeel Qureshi, Sam Shamoun and David Wood Contriubute to the Apostasy of Christians

Nabeel Qureshi: Is the Trinity in Genesis 1:26

Nabeel Qureshi's Friend on Doctrine of Taqiyyah

Indonesian Muslims Converting to Christianity?

[QURAN MIRACLES] The Miracles of the Number 19 in Quran | Dr. Shabir Ally

ISIS Members Having Dreams of Jesus?

People having dreams and visions showing Jesus is not divine

Russell Brand Exposes Muslim Terrorism Percentage
 
 
 

Sunday, 8 January 2017

Response to Converted2Islam Vision of Jesus Claim



Ex Muslim, Neil Littlejohn (formerly known as Ismaeel Abu Adam),  is now claiming to have had a vision of Jesus. He even wants to take a polygraph test (a lie detector test). Look an Ex Muslim claiming to have seen Jesus is nothing new, the conman Kamal Saleem has peddled a story of Jesus appearing in a vision (well actually he has peddled at least 3 versions of that story) while charismatic folks like Zak Gariba claim to speak to Jesus!

Claiming Jesus is appearing to you is a sure fire way of getting some attention in the charismatic Christian movement and, let's be frank, a bit more cash in donations if that's what you're asking for.

My focus here is, did Neil see the devil. Neil's description of Jesus doesn't tie in with what most people would expect of a Middle Easterner living in 1st century Palestine - Neil has more of a Hollywood type of image of Jesus in mind.




In this video we ask people to consider whether Neil is lying, wishful-thinking or simply conned by the devil.



If the video does not play, please see here

Nabeel Qureshi: True Christians Can Perfom Miracles Greater than Jesus!

Muslim Indonesian Women Tricked By Christiam Missionary Men?

Muslims Becoming Christians in Lebanon? Missionary Bus-Start Scandal Bites Again?

Christian Missionary Propganda About Asmirandah Zantman's 'Conversion' (Indonesian Actress)

Oldest British Convert to Islam, Br Mohamed Keith-Kinglsey Cunliffe?

Faith Change: Islam rapidly grows as Christianity declines in UK

Slovakians converting to Islam


Notes from Sean Finnegan's interview with Patrick Navas: Is the Trinity Biblical

Tovia Singer: Does the New Testament Teach Jesus is God?

Why Islam



Nabeel Qureshi: True Christians Can Perfom Miracles Greater than Jesus!


I think RZIM's Dr Nabeel Qureshi's exegesis of John 14:12-14 would be lapped up by the Prosperity Gospel crowd. It's essentially telling Christians that they get anything they want if they pray to Jesus (a man!) and ask him for whatever they want. Here's the Gospel passage Nabeel Qureshi uses to claim Christians can perform miracles greater than those given to Jesus:

12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

Video of Nabeel Qureshi talking about miracles and John 14



If the video does not play, please see here

To be fair, I know another strand of Christianity would exegete this passage as referring to preaching the "Gospel" rather than works of healings etc.

Having said that, Nabeel is effectively giving a falsification test for judging who is a "true" believer in Christianity: they should be able to perform greater works (miracles) than Jesus. Well, Nabeel (other Christians) why aren't you guys down at your local hospitals healing the deaf, blind, disabled and terminally ill? Why haven't we not seen you guys in war zones bringing peace to war-torn lands? Why haven't you not ended poverty in deprived areas of South America, Asia and Africa?

There are over 2 billion Christians worldwide, Nabeel Qureshi, surely thinks at least 10% of them are "true" Christians. That would be at least 200m Christians. Why is it that we are more likely to see Christians online (some of whom are Nabeel's friends) spewing hatred against Muslims rather than in hospitals trying to heal people or in warzones bringing an end to innocent people being bombed by imperialist forces like America, Russia, ISIS etc.?

JD Hall: Nabeel Qureshi is making Christians look Stupid

Muslim Indonesian Women Tricked By Christiam Missionary Men?

Muslims Becoming Christians in Lebanon? Missionary Bus-Start Scandal Bites Again?

Christian Missionary Propganda About Asmirandah Zantman's 'Conversion' (Indonesian Actress)

Oldest British Convert to Islam, Br Mohamed Keith-Kinglsey Cunliffe?

Faith Change: Islam rapidly grows as Christianity declines in UK

Slovakians converting to Islam


Notes from Sean Finnegan's interview with Patrick Navas: Is the Trinity Biblical

Tovia Singer: Does the New Testament Teach Jesus is God?

Why Islam



Tuesday, 8 November 2016

How Jay Smith, Nabeel Qureshi, Sam Shamoun and David Wood Contribute to the Apostasy of Christians

Muslims have refuted ad nauseum the claim that Islam allows rape of concubines (see here and here for examples) so I am not looking at refuting this claim. This is a focus on the idea of consistency (or rather a lack of it) when it comes to the Bible.

In this video we see a Christian apologist give a standard response to the idea of the Old Testament (yes, that's the Bible) allowing women to be captured and used as concubines or married off to the captors. His answer seems pretty straight forward to semi-smart people.

James White's comments condemn Jay Smith, Sam Shamoun, David Wood and Beth Grove

If the video does not play, please see here

Anybody who can process the idea of context, judgement of God, and understand the fallacy of presentism can argue against Western secular humanist critique of Abrahamic religions and religious figures.

Sadly, what I'm noticing on the Muslim-Christian apologetics/polemics scene is a tendency to ignore such factors and argue as Western secular humanists against the other religion. This happens amongst the Christian camp. Westernized Christians go so far as to adopt an inconsistent standard of argumentation to attack Islam whilst ignoring or being unaware of their indirect attack on the Old Testament and the Trinitarian view of Jesus.

Glaring examples would include polygamy, capital punishment, violence and concubinage. The example of concubinage takes a life of its own as Christian polemics propagandize in order to equate that to rape and even introduce new, misleading and emotive terminology for concubines - "sex slaves"!

For the serious-minded and smart Christian evangelist there are two problems:

1. The argument is inconsistent as the Old Testament allowed soldiers to take captured women (Num 31:16-18, Num 31:31-40, Deut 21:10-14). The Old Testament is the word of Jesus along with the Father according to Trinitarian theology thus, for the Trinitarian, to argue this is rape is to indirectly accuse Jesus of allowing rape.

2. The Christian polemicist is setting Christians up to stumble out of the Church with premises which aren't couched in consistent Biblical thought. Think about it, a young Western millennial Christian is effectively being taught by Christian polemicists like David Wood, Nabeel Qureshi, Sam Shamoun and Jay Smith that polygamy, concubines, warfare and capital punishment make a religion false. These millennials are being set up to stumble out of Christianity as they later build up their knowledge base of the Old Testament. This is all because "feel good Christian" polemicists like Wood and Smith don't appear to have the intellectual honesty or foresight to factor in consistency with the Bible.

Christians are quite often scoring own goals. That desire for the quick buck, quick convert or quick boost in personal popularity can quite easily assist the undoing of some young Christian's faith further down the line.

Surely smart Christians can see this. Sadly for Christianity there are less and less smart Christians operating in this arena and even fewer have the fortitude, or regard for Christianity, to take on their "feel good Christian" missionaries.


A Question of James White's Consistency Re Prof. JR Daniel Kirk and Bart Ehrman

Muslim Imam Response to Paris Terrorist Attacks

Similarities Between Catholic Terrorist Group IRA and Muslim Terrorist Group ISIS

Explanation: Zaynab Bint Jahsh's Marriage to Prophet Muhammad p Dr Yasir Qadhi

Dhul Qarnayn and the Exegetes' Speculation of Alexander The Great

Murder Rates in Muslim Countries Compared to Non Muslim Countries.

The Hitler Propaganda on Muslims

Sharia Law against terrorism

Christians having dreams and converting to Islam


Learn about Islam

Email: yahyasnow@yahoo.co.uk
 

Thursday, 7 January 2016

Nabeel Qureshi: Is the Trinity in Genesis 1:26


Rabbi Michael Skobac and rabbi Tovia Singer tell us most Trinitarian scholars do not think this passage refers to a trinity. He also states the plural of  'Us' is either God addressing the angels or it's the use of the plural of majesty is not a reference to the trinity idea too.

Genesis 1
 26Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." 27God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.…

Ravi Zacharias International Ministries' Nabeel Qureshi Refuted by Tovia Singer and Michael Skobac



If the video does not play please see here

Some Christian missionaries will say anything just for you to believe in the trinity idea. Don't switch your minds off. Don't be fooled by Christian missionary spin. In this video we see Nabeel Qureshi is in opposition with Christian and Jewish scholars. For Christians having dreams and converting to Islam please see:

Clips from:
Is the Trinity Biblical - Rabbi Tovia Singer
Trinity What the Bible Teaches - Rabbi Skobac
Why Jews are so turned off by the Trinity - Rabbi Yisroel

Did Jonathan McLatchie Copy Nabeel Qureshi?

Why is the Trinity doctrine so difficult to understand? - Dr. Shabir Ally answers Nabeel Qureshi

Nabeel Qureshi's Friend on Doctrine of Taqiyyah

Indonesian Muslims Converting to Christianity?

[QURAN MIRACLES] The Miracles of the Number 19 in Quran | Dr. Shabir Ally

ISIS Members Having Dreams of Jesus?

People having dreams and visions showing Jesus is not divine

Russell Brand Exposes Muslim Terrorism Percentage
 
 
 

Friday, 17 April 2015

Why is the Trinity doctrine so difficult to understand? - Dr. Shabir Ally answers Nabeel Qureshi

Christian evangelists have real issues with the doctrine of the Trinity



Ignorant Nabeel Qureshi 'Outclassed' in Debate with Shabir Ally

Indonesian Muslims Converting to Christianity?

[QURAN MIRACLES] The Miracles of the Number 19 in Quran | Dr. Shabir Ally

ISIS Members Having Dreams of Jesus?

People having dreams and visions showing Jesus is not divine

Russell Brand Exposes Muslim Terrorism Percentage
 
 
 

Nabeel Qureshi's Friend on Doctrine of Taqiyyah


More ignorance from Nabeel's mate. Do Christian Islamophobes like this guy even care about presenting accurate information or is it just a case of using anything that ties in with their agenda of radical Christian 'evangelism' and Islamophobia.




Taqiyah: The Lie they made against Islam - Shadid Lewis:
http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/taqiyah-lie-they-made-against-islam.html

Article on What is Taqiyah/Takiya Really:
http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/know-truth-about-muslims-and-taqiyah.html

Indonesian Muslims Converting to Christianity?

[QURAN MIRACLES] The Miracles of the Number 19 in Quran | Dr. Shabir Ally

ISIS Members Having Dreams of Jesus?

People having dreams and visions showing Jesus is not divine

Russell Brand Exposes Muslim Terrorism Percentage
 
 
 

Thursday, 9 April 2015

Ignorant Nabeel Qureshi 'Outclassed' in Debate with Shabir Ally


It appears as though Dr Nabeel Qureshi did not impress certain folk who were in the Christian camp during his debate with Dr Shabir Ally. Here's a critical comment by a user called Eli Santana who states he's on the side of Nabeel Qureshi yet he considers Nabeel Qureshi to be lacking in skill and ultimately outclassed by Dr Shabir Ally:

Dr. Ally is a phenomenal debater, Hope Dr. Nabeel "ups his game" for future debates as he seemed to be outclassed here, And this is coming from someone who's on his side of the debate.

... Deconstructing the other side of the argument is perfectly acceptable in a debate, especially if the person you're debating allows you to do so. It was Nabeel's responsibility to force Dr. Ally into a defensive position, however he lacked the skill to do so.




Tony Arsenal offers his analysis and criticises Dr Nabeel Qureshi for not understanding the doctrine of the Trinity:

Now, I want to get some things straight. I understand that Qureshi is not a theologian. I understand that this is not his specialty. I understand that the Trinity is complicated and people are bound to make mistakes. However, when you put yourself forward to debate the leading Muslim apologist on the subject… you better have your doctrine straight.

 ...I think it is safe to say that Dr Qureshi has a lot to learn. I appreciate his desire to reach Muslims, but at this point I don’t think he has an adequate command over the doctrine of the Trinity to be debating these things.

Tony Arsenal is a graduate of Bethel University (BA: Biblical and Theological Studies, Minors in Biblical Greek and Biblical Languages) and Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary (MA: Church History, MA: Theology). He currently resides in Enfield, CT with his wife Lee.
Tony’s interests are Patristic theology, Trinitarian and Christological theology, Reformed Dogmatics, and Historical Theology focusing on the Conciliar period of the 4th and 5th centuries.
He serves in his local church as occasional preacher, as well as unofficially as a theologian in residence. He also occasionally helps with youth events and worship.

I personally have not viewed the debate. I've followed Nabeel for a few years talking about Islam and I have noticed he is prone to presenting misinformation and low level internet arguments. One wonders whether Nabeel will one day value accuracy with a better regard.

Here's Nabeel Qureshi using a couple of ignorant internet arguments against Islam:




Here's another one where he seems to have just plagiarized from a shoddy Christian internet apologist:



The Nabeel Qureshi section

Is the Gospel of John Reliable?

[QURAN MIRACLES] The Miracles of the Number 19 in Quran | Dr. Shabir Ally

ISIS Members Having Dreams of Jesus?

People having dreams and visions showing Jesus is not divine

Russell Brand Exposes Muslim Terrorism Percentage
 
 
 

Thursday, 29 January 2015

Why was Nabeel Qureshi spreading lies - honor killings?


Effort in trying to educate people to what Islam ACTUALLY is a great thing. So, when I see an ignoramus pop over and start talking about Islam and propagating the exact same misconceptions that Muslims and Muslim scholars have been educating (yes, EDUCATING) people away from then one is left annoyed to say the least.

It's Nabeel Qureshi spreading misinformation (again). You know, I'm not an expert on Christianity BUT surely Christianity teaches Christians NOT to go around spreading misinformation?!

It gets more frustrating because these people don't generally come back and correct themselves, they just leave the misinformation out there.

Just recently I posted an excerpt from one of Dr Jonathan Brown's books, in which he's teaching there's a consensus amongst Muslim scholars AGAINST honor killings.

Here's Nabeel Qureshi completely spreading misinformation about honor killings.


Video also uploaded here and here
Here is further refutation for Robert Spencer to think about, Sheikh Ahmad Kutty teaches honor killings are NOT Islamic:

“There is no such concept in Islam that is called “honor killing”. Islam holds every soul in high esteem and does not allow any transgression upon it. It does not allow people to take the law in their own hands and administer justice, because doing so will be leading to chaos and lawlessness. Therefore, based on this, Islam does not permit such killings.”

Bilal Phillips and Hamza Yusuf on Honour killings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVE-_7WB_SE

Honor killing in the Bible, NOT Qur'an, Dr Shabir Ally:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di5N92AxDck

Christians having dreams and converting to Islam:
http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/christians-are-having-dreams-and.html

Sharia Law against terrorism

Invitation to Islam

Jesus taught people to do the Will of God (according to Mark 3:35) in order to become his brothers, mothers or sisters. A Muslim means one who submits to the Will of God. Do you want to become a brother/sister of Jesus? If yes, become a Muslim.

Learn about Islam:
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Email: yahyasnow@yahoo.co.uk

Sunday, 2 November 2014

Rebuking Nabeel Qureshi's Misinformation at Biola University (Quran Preservation)

Taking Dr Nabeel Qureshi to Account for Misinformation

One of the frustrating things about apologetics is the sheer misinformation that gets banded about on the internet by apologists and speakers who really should know better. Folk who just present anything that they feel suits their position without trying to check the veracity of the claims. Dr Nabeel Qureshi has a history of this. Nabeel is no expert in Islamic or Quranic studies. As far as I know, he's a medical doctor who does not even know Arabic.

 
Here's a video in which Nabeel Qureshi is claiming (ignorantly) that Ibn Masud (Ibn Masood) did not believe Surah al-Fatiha was part of the Quran despite having been corrected on this issue in past. Watch this video to see Nabeel Qureshi corrected and rebuked for his misinformation at Biola University.

Muslim Refutes Nabeel Qureshi (Nabeel Qureshi: A Look at the Quran - Apologetics to Islam)




If the video does not play, please see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQTLj8XEydY

A point which seems to impugn Nabeel Qureshi's academic integrity and sincerity (again) is that he has already been advised on this argument previously in a debate with Bassam Zawadi.

For some reason Nabeel continues to expose his ignorance, unreliability and insincerity. However, it seems to be getting worse as he just attributes words to Ibn Masud without any references at all - is he making this up or does he have a reference for this?

If Nabeel had checked the Islamic Center for Research and Academics site he would have realised that there is a narration where Ibn Masud confirms that Al Fatiha is part of the Quran!

It is narrated from Ibn Mas‘ood, regarding the word of Allah, ‘We have given you the seven oft-repeated verses;’ he said, “[It is] Fatihah al-Kitab.”[3]

This plainly confirms that the al-Fatihah was indeed a part of the Qur’an in the view of Ibn Mas‘ood just like the rest of Muslims. [See ICRAA.org]


Nabeel has already been told why Ibn Masud did not include Surah Al Fatiha in his manuscript. So why is Nabeel continuing with this line of disingenuous argumentation? Why won't Nabeel not actually take the explanation of Ibn Masud rather than attributing an opposing narrative to Ibn Masud?

It's clear from Ibn Masud himself that Surah Al Fatiha was not written in his manuscript for reasons of brevity:

‘Abdullah bin Mas‘ood was asked as to why he did not write al-Fatihah in his mushaf. He replied, ‘If I were to write I would write it before every surah.’” Abu Bakr al-Anbari explains this saying every raka’ah (in prayers) starts with al-Fatihah and then another surah is recited. It is as if Ibn Mas‘ood said, ‘I have dropped it for the sake of brevity and I have trusted its preservation by Muslims (collectively).’[4]

Thus we learn, if he did not write a certain thing in his mushaf it does not mean it was not part of the Qur’an to his understanding. This is a vital point I will ask the readers to bear in mind. [See ICRAA.org]

On top of this, Nabeel has already been told that the Qiraat (reading)of Ibn Masud contains Al Fatiha:

Ibn Mas‘ood did recite al-Fatihah and al-mu’awwazatayn in Qur’an as proved from rigorous evidence of four established qira’ats whose chains of authorities (isnad) are the strongest chains unanimously accepted by the ummah. [See ICRAA.org]

For a full refutation of the Christian missionary arguments based on Ibn Masud's Codex see:

No. of Surahs in the Mushaf of Ibn Masud

Summary

In summary Nabeel Qureshi really does embarrass himself here in effort to evangelize and attempt to bring the Quran down to the level of the Bible vis-à-vis preservation. In the process Nabeel is showing himself to be unscholarly, unreliable and insincere.

Nabeel may well be trying to evangelize to Muslims in order to attract Muslims towards Christianity but surely he must recognise that presentations and claims such as he made at Biola University are only going to repel Muslims away from  Biola University, Ravi Zacharias International Ministries (RZIM) and  Nabeel Qureshi's personal mission.

Nabeel, surely recognises this type of disregard for intellectual honesty and accuracy harms relationships between Muslims and Christians.

Related:

Bassam Zawadi Rebukes Nabeel Qureshi (Again)

Nabeel Qureshi section

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Islamophobes attempt to demonize Muslims as rapists

Russell Brand: Haters of Islam Encourage Muslims towards Extremism

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