Thursday, 5 February 2015
Prophet Muhammad was a Witness, A Bearer of Glad Tidings and a Warner
Verily, We have sent you (O Muhammad SAW) as a witness, as a bearer of glad tidings, and as a warner [48:8, Interpretation of the Meanings of The Noble Qur'an (Hilali-Khan)]
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Statistics: Ethnic Minorities in Bradford District and White Majority
Marie Macey presents some interesting statistics (from the year 2001) on the ethnic make up of the Bradford District. Contrary to what some white nationalists may think or say, Bradford is still EASILY majority WHITE.
In the District of Bradford (so the city and surrounding areas) the majority ethnic composition is WHITE at nearly 80% (78.3%).
People of a Pakistani background are LESS THAN 15%.
So if you hear some nonsense about Pakistanis taking over the Bradford District, recognise it to be misinformation.
Admittedly, the percentage of people of a Pakistani origin are greater in the inner city area but you must remember the Pakistani community in Bradford City are concentrated in a narrow band of the city.
The total population of the District of Bradford is 467,000, comprising 78.3 percent 'white' and 20.7 percent visible minorities. The former includes people whose origins are in Belorussia, Estonia, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Germany, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland, and there are also significant numbers of Eastern European asylum seekers/refugees. The latter includes people whose origins are in Africa and the Caribbean (0.9 percent), Bangladesh (1.1 percent), India (2.7 percent) and Pakistan (14.5 percent). There is also a 'mixed' category (1.5 percent). By far the largest minority ethnic group, then, is of Pakistani origin (80,000), approximately 60,000 of whom are from the Mirpur region of (Azad) Kashmir. Additionally, this community has a far higher presence in Bradford than its numbers suggest: first, because statistics refer to the District as a whole - which includes extensive rural areas whose towns and villages are almost entirely mono-cultural - whilst most ethnic minorities live in inner-city Bradford, which covers only five or six miles; second because Pakistani Muslims are concentrated in a narrow band of the city,...
Islamic Political Radicalism - A European Perspective, Edited by Tahir Abbas, Muslim Men in Bradford - Marie Macey, Edingburgh University Press, p162
Why? British Muslim Gangs, Prisons, Unemployment
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Christian apologetics to Muslims, more women in Hell Hadith
Christian apologetics organisations are doing a disservice by presenting their flocks with the standard Christian apologetics around Hadith mentioning the majority of the dwellers of Hell would be women.
Apart from not telling their flocks that there's another Hadith showing that women would outnumber men in Paradise, the Christian apologetics organisations misuse and misunderstand the Hadith they use.
At the end of the day, they pass on intellectual dishonesty - knowingly or unknowingly.
Here we see Reverend Steven Martins of EAM presenting the Hadith - it appears Reverend Steven Martins is a victim of intellectual dishonesty at the hands of those who taught him Christian apologetics in relation to Muslims.
If video does not play, please see:
http://youtu.be/HEkxgoJYnB0
Waqar Akbar Cheema of the Islamic Center for Research and Academics has discussed the Hadith here:
Do women form majority in the hell?
Whether you are a Christian or Muslim, it's important to avail yourself of these points as superficial and intellectually dishonest Christian apologetics are being circulated both offline and online.
Here are a few take-home points from Cheema's article:
Women don't go to Hell for simply being women.
In the Hadith mentioned by Christians, the Prophet stated only what he had seen during his Miraculous Journey which is not bound to remain the same for ever.
Other traditions plainly establish that in the Paradise women will be much larger in number compared to men
Rebuking Rev. Steven Martins of Evangelium & Apologia Ministries - 'Western Values'
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Tuesday, 3 February 2015
Been a victim of Islamophobia in Britain?
If you are a victim of a hate crime, report it to the Police. Even if they cannot prosecute those responsible at least there will be a record of the increasing #Islamophobia. The Police can then be pressured into tackling #Islamophobia more effectively, but they need to be made more aware of the problem. The Police need to be aware of the problem and that starts with you holding them to account and making them aware when a Muslim suffers any attack.
You can also report Is...lamophobic crimes online at www.met.police.uk
Demand your mosque and #Muslim organisations to get involved in campaigning against #Islamophobia. Push them to activate their congregations and members. Every Mosque & Muslim organisation must defend Islam.
Keep persevering until you succeed in your aim and objective. Allah will always support those that take a stand against Islamophobia. [MPACUK Facebook]
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Keep persevering until you succeed in your aim and objective. Allah will always support those that take a stand against Islamophobia. [MPACUK Facebook]
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Edward Bunker: John Calvin would have approved of Muslim moral code
Edward Bunker was Mr Blue in the Tarantino movie Reservoir Dogs. I'm currently reading his biography and came across this quote in which Edward Bunker speaks well of Muslims and claims John Calvin would have approved of the Muslim moral code.
A tall Muslim goes past with a permanently stern countenance. His partner waits for him at the end of the tier. Like all black Muslims, he is quiet and reserved, dresses neatly and follows a moral code John Calvin would approve. Edward Bunker, Memoirs of a Renegade, p346
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Rebuking Rev. Steven Martins of Evangelium & Apologia Ministries - 'Western Values'
The motif of the European knight/gentleman rescuing the oppressed oriental maiden from her harem prison remains a well-watered one - Dr Jonathan AC Brown
Christian apologists often present superficial arguments and make statements of a superficial nature. Reverend Steven Richard Martins is a Christian apologist for an organisation based in Canada.
This superficial and irresponsible statement-making fuels Islamophobia. Christian apologists with their regurgitated superficial apologetics spiels about Islam simply goes towards fuelling Islamophobia. Is that really what Christian apologists are being trained to do - dehumanize and insult Muslims?
Rather than talking about the general problem of ill-treatment across the world, Steven Martins speaks about 'horror stories' coming out of Muslim countries while ignoring 'horror stories' coming out of Western countries such as America (i.e. the horrific rape stats). Let's be clear, there is ill-treatment of women around the world including my country, the UK. It's not limited to Muslim countries or as Steven Martins intimates non-Western countries/ideals.
Steven Martins, through his statements, appears to be a Western supremacist. The interesting thing here is, there are many Eastern Christians out there, does Steven think these people are lacking when it comes to treating women well?
On top of this, what about Western ideals? They all surely are not Biblical. I mean, no serious Christian would claim the allowance of homosexual marriage is Biblical. Or the rampant Western sexualisation of women is Biblical.
So why even champion the West? I assume Canada's similar to Britain where women are sexualized and stripped of their clothing to promote products such as cars, cosmetics and vices like gambling.
I get the impression Steven is new to apologetics but surely he knows appearing as a Western supremacist as well as condescending and intellectually dishonest/lazy would not reflect well on Evangelium & Apologia Ministries? Surely he knows that many Chinese, Arab, and other Christians in the East would feel concerned at his comments?
Here's a video rebuking Steven Martins.
Steven Martins - A Rebuke - Western Values, Muslim Men and Women
Western Values - Steven Martins of E&AM Rebuked by yahyasnow
Steven, next time you meet a Muslim who treats his wife with reverence. Please ask them if it's because of the teachings of Islam:
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) enjoined kind treatment and honouring of one’s wife, and he described the best of people as those who are best to their wives. He said: “The best of you are those who are the best to their wives, and I am the best of you to my wives.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 3895; Ibn Maajah, 1977; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.
RZIM
Rev. Steven Martins is linked to a lady called Cindy Martins. I don't know if they are related or married or simply just colleagues. However, a point of interest here is Cindy Martins holds an apologetics certificate from the Ravi Zacharias International Ministries Academy.
I'm not making any claims here - I don't know of Cindy Martin's work but Steven Martin's work, (from the little I've seen of it) is superficial and unimpressive. It will be prudent just to know that Dr Nabeel Qureshi is part of this organisation (RZIM) and Dr Nabeel has proven himself, time and time again to be superficial and lacking in intellectual honesty, see the Nabeel Qureshi section.
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The Best of you are those who are the best to their wives Hadith
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) enjoined kind treatment and honouring of one’s wife, and he described the best of people as those who are best to their wives. He said: “The best of you are those who are the best to their wives, and I am the best of you to my wives.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 3895; Ibn Maajah, 1977; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.
From:http://islamqa.info/en/41199
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Monday, 2 February 2015
Important Video for Pauline Christians
Dr Shabir Ally, in this 30 second video, mentions the early followers of Jesus (p) kept the Law while Paul and his followers broke the Law.
Did Paul Contradict Jesus? Dr Shabir Ally
False Prophecy by Paul 1 Thessalonians 4:17
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Sharia in Practice
In the Shariah, offenses were divided into those against God and those against man. Crimes against God violated His Hudud, or 'boundaries', and were offenses whose punishments were specified by the Quran and, in some cases, the Hadiths, such as the punishment of certain kinds of theft by amputating a hand, punishing adultery by stoning and sexual slander by lashing. Because these offenses were affronts against a merciful God, the evidentiary standards were often impossibly high (such as the four witnesses to sexual penetration required to prove adultery). Moreover, the Prophet ordered Muslim judges to 'ward off the Hudud [punishments] by ambiguities.' The severe Hudud punishments were meant to convey the gravity of those offenses against God and to deter, not to be carried out. If a thief refused to confess, or if a confessed adulterer retracted his confession, the Hudud punishments would be waived.
This did not entail that the culprit escaped justice. Circumstantial evidence, such as a witness to the theft or finding the stolen good in the thief's possession, could lead the judge to find him guilty of wrongful appropriation (ghasb). The wronged party could reclaim their possession or receive compensation for its value plus damages entailed. This coexistence of two legal wrongs identical in fact but subject to two very different standards of evidence and punishment is analogous to the relationship between the crime of theft and the tort of conversion in common law. While the first requires evidence of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt and can be punished with prison, the second only needs a preponderance of evidence and carries monetary damages. In cases that fell below the Hudud category in the Shariah, judges regularly assigned lesser punishments such as a beating, prison or public humiliation. 'Misquoting Muhammad', Jonathan A.C Brown, Kindle p180-181
ISLAMIC LAW & ITS RATIONALE by Dr. Bilal Philips
Honor killings and Sharia
What is Shariah Law? Sharia Explained by Yasir Qadhi
Punishing Adultery in Muslim Countries - Benefits to Society
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Robert Spencer, Should Apostates in America, UK and Australia Be Killed According to Sharia
Here wee see Robert Spencer claiming that the killing of an apostate (from Islam) in America is obligatory according to Sharia.
However, when we listen to the expert, Dr Yasir Qadhi, we see Robert Spencer is ignorant. Apostates in Non-Muslim countries such as the UK, USA, Canada and Australia are not killed according to the Sharia as per Dr Yasir Qadhi's comments.
This is the importance of trying to understand the Sharia from experts such as Dr Yasir Qadhi rather than untrained men like Robert Spencer.
Robert Spencer, Does Sharia call for Killing of Apostates in America
Also uploaded here
Muslims in gangs, prisons and unemployed, why?
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Why? British Muslim Gangs, Prisons, Unemployment
The inequalities of Islamophobia, the lack of job prospects, qualifications and poor housing all contribute to Muslim gangs and criminal activity in the UK.
So rather than people using British Muslim crime stats to bash Muslims, why do they not actually look into some of the reasons why British Muslims are falling prey to criminal subcultures in the UK and mainland Europe...
Within criminological research, youth subcultures have been a focus of attention for many years. Attention has been placed upon young people, especially young men, due to their propensity to engage in the types of illegal or deviant activities that come to the attention of law enforcement authorities. According to Youn (1999, p.89), subcultures are 'jointly elaborated solutions to collectively experienced problems'. According to the Collins Dictionary of Sociology (Jary and Jary 1991, p. 638), a subculture is 'any system of beliefs, values and norms which is shared and actively participated in by an appreciable minority of people within a particular culture. The relationship of the subculture to the so-called dominant culture has been described as one of subordination and relative powerlessness.' Thus, structural inequalities of race, gender, Islamophobia and so forth impact upon individuals' everyday lives and so, to try and tackle the discrimination and marginalisation that they experience, individuals may seek out subcultural solutions.
...Muslim men, particularly South Asian men, have been assimilated into British culture. Elsewhere, a reporter in The Sunday Times claimed that the young men who are the genus most susceptible to Islamic extremism in this country are second-generation British Pakistanis, because of a lack of a sense of identity (Yaseer 2005). However, debates around assimilation appear to miss out key issues that arise when considering British Muslim identities and male Muslim youth subcultures. First, Muslims constitute the most socially and economically deprived faith group in the UK. Statistics show that Muslims are the most likely faith group to experience poor housing conditions, and that 42 percent of Muslim children live in overcrowded accommodation, compared to 12 percent for the general population; 12 percent live in households with no central heating, compared to 6 percent for all dependent children; and 35 percent are growing up in households where there are no adults in employment, compared with 17 percent for all dependent children (Choudhury 2004, p. 14). Furthermore, almost one third of Muslims of working age have no qualifications, the highest proportion for any faith group, and 17.5 percent of young Muslim people between the ages of 16 and 24 are unemployed compared to 7.9 percent of Christians and 7.4 percent of Hindus (Choudhury 2004, p. 16).
Islamic Political Radicalism - A European Perspective, Edited by Tahir Abbas, Disconnection and Exclusion: Pathways to Radicalism? Basia Spalek, Edingburgh University Press, p 199-200
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Yahya Snow are you ijaz Ahmad?
Nope, different person:)
He's a good brother who runs the callingchristians site:
http://callingchristians.com/
Murder Rates in Muslim Countries Compared to Non Muslim Countries.
Holocaust Denial & Bridging the Jewish-Muslim Divide ~ US Imam Dr. Yasir Qadhi
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British Muslims in Preston Helping to Save Lives
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Murder Rates in Muslim Countries Compared to Non Muslim Countries.
Holocaust Denial & Bridging the Jewish-Muslim Divide ~ US Imam Dr. Yasir Qadhi
Smear on British Pakistanis: Stats and Facts of British Pakistanis Grooming Girls
British Muslims in Preston Helping to Save Lives
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Sunday, 1 February 2015
What is Fath Al Bari?
FATH AL BARI: by Ibn Hajar al Asqalani (d.852/1449), a 14 volume commentary of Sahih al Bukhari. It is sometimes described as the work by which muslim scholars repaid the debt they owed to al Bukhari.
From: http://www.nusrah.com/en/sunnah-selection/4660.major-collections-of-hadith.htm
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False Prophecy by Paul 1 Thessalonians 4:17
Here's some material from Dr Shabir Ally and Bassam Zawadi in which they posit Paul made a false prophecy in 1 Thessalonians chapter 4.
What I'd like Christians to do is to ponder upon the points made by Dr Shabir Ally and Bassam Zawadi. At the end of the day, if Paul is making false prophecies then how can the average Christian deem him to be reliable?
Look into this and look into Islam. The Islamic view of Jesus (p) makes more sense than the Trinitarian view of Jesus p.
Dr Shabir Ally on the false prophecy attribute to Paul in Thessalonians 4:17
Bassam Zawadi's comments on 1 Thessalonians 4 and the claim of false prophecy is taken from here but is reproduced in full below:
Paul made a false prophecy about the coming of Jesus during his lifetime...
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
13Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about those who fall asleep, or to grieve like the rest of men, who have no hope. 14We believe that Jesus died and rose again and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18Therefore encourage each other with these words.
Lets look at some of the commentaries regarding this passage...
"Prevent" means "having an advantage over." Those who live until the Lord comes won't have any advantage over those who died earlier.
Source: http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/c/1139502792-6755.html
a. Paul emphasized the soon return of Jesus, and the Thessalonians believed it earnestly; this was part of the reason that they were the kind of church that Paul would compliment so highly. But after he had left, they wondered about those Christians who died before Jesus' return - did they miss out on that great event? Would they miss the victory and blessing of Jesus' coming?
b. The Thessalonians were afraid that the dead in Christ would miss out, but Paul assures them that those gone on before them won't feel cheated at not being on earth when Jesus comes back to this earth, because the dead in Christ will gain first benefit
a. Those alive and remaining until this coming of Jesus are caught up to meet Jesus in the air, together with the dead in Jesus who have already risen
Source: http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/c/1139503168-6235.html
The "we" means whichever of us are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord.
Source: http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/c/1139503752-1625.html
Christians may tend to argue back and quote...
Matthew 24:42
"Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.
to show that Christians never knew about when Jesus was coming and therefore should always be expecting it. However, when we look at the way Paul is talking about the coming of Jesus we see that he is confident and sure that Jesus would be coming during his lifetime. He didn't say 'IF Jesus comes now then...". He was talking confidently and emphasized that Jesus was coming for sure during his lifetime in that passage. Obviously he was wrong. Paul wrote something wrong and wrote a failed prophecy. According to Christians all scripture is inspired (2Timothy 3:16). How could the Holy Spirit who was inspiring Paul, inspire Paul to write a false prophecy like that?
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Explanation: Sun Sets in Murky Water Hadith (Sunan Abu Dawud, Musnad Ahmad)
What we see from Waqar
Cheema's analysis is that the Hadiths in which the words “it sets in a spring of
warm/murky water” appear are not believed to be attributed to Prophet Muhammad
(p). Thus, Muslims do not consider them to be reliable.
Now somebody may well be
thinking, how it can be dismissed as not being from Prophet Muhammad p? It's
simple, if you look at the analysis you will see there are numerous Hadiths
with different chains of narrators (after the first three links) which all report the SAME
saying of Abu Darr but they do not include the words “it sets in a spring of warm/murky
water.”
So clearly both versions
cannot be right.
The versions containing
“it sets in a spring of warm/murky water” are based on the SAME chain of
narration (see the fourth person in the chain) while the versions not
containing “it sets in a spring of warm/murky water” are of 5 different chains
(5 different people at the 4th link) - thus overwhelming numerical evidence
shows that the Hadith containing “it sets in a spring of warm/murky water” cannot
be attributed to Prophet Muhammad p. Basically it's a case of 1 person
reported it with the words “it sets in a spring of warm/murky water” compared
to 5 who did not report those words.
Not only this, the chain
in which the words “it sets in a spring of warm/murky water” are included
contains Sufyan bin Husain who was considered as a person who made mistakes in
his narrations as seen in Waqar Cheema's analysis:
Muhammad ibn Sa’d said
about him: “He was reliable (but) he made many mistakes in his narrations.”
(Tabaqat al-Kubra, Dar al-Kotob al-Ilmiyya, Beirut, 1990, vol.7 p.227 No. 3417)
Obviously quality and
quantity would mean that the Muslim does not accept this narration but rather
accepts the more numerous and reliable Hadiths which are those that do NOT
contain the words “it sets in a spring of warm/murky water”
There's even a theory
how the words “it sets in a spring of warm/murky water” got into the Hadith by
mistake - see Cheema's analysis
Cheema points out the
Hadith in question is Anomolous and Defective and supplies the definitions
which impugn the reliability of such hadiths :
“… the anomalous hadith
is the one which a reliable transmitter relates and which is in conflict with
what other people relate.” (An Introduction to the Science of Hadith,
Translated by Dr. Eerik Dickinson, Garnet Publishing Ltd. Berkshire 2006 p.57)
“A defective
hadith is one in which a defect impugning its soundness is detected, although
it outwardly appears to be free of the defect. That may apply to an isnad made
up of reliable transmitters which outwardly seems to fulfill the conditions of
soundness. Someone being alone in transmitting the hadith as well as others
contradicting him aid in catching the defect.” (An Introduction to the Science
of Hadith, p.67)
And when a report or a part of it becomes “shaadh” it ceases to be a sahih (sound) report. For this the definition of a “Sahih hadith” will help.
Hafiz Ibn Salah writes;
“The sahih (sound) hadith is a “supported” hadith (al-hadith al-musnad), the isnad of which coheres continuously through the transmission of one upright and accurate person from another up to its point of termination. The sound hadith can be neither anomalous (shaadh) nor defective (mu’allal),” (An Introduction to the Science of Hadith, p.5)
So merely being “sahih al-isnaad” is not enough for the report itself to be sahih.
And when a report or a part of it becomes “shaadh” it ceases to be a sahih (sound) report. For this the definition of a “Sahih hadith” will help.
Hafiz Ibn Salah writes;
“The sahih (sound) hadith is a “supported” hadith (al-hadith al-musnad), the isnad of which coheres continuously through the transmission of one upright and accurate person from another up to its point of termination. The sound hadith can be neither anomalous (shaadh) nor defective (mu’allal),” (An Introduction to the Science of Hadith, p.5)
So merely being “sahih al-isnaad” is not enough for the report itself to be sahih.
Conclusion
If you come across aChristian missionary or any other Anti-Islam zealot quoting any Hadith saying the sun “sets in a spring of warm/murky water”
For more information see Waqar Cheema's analysis.
The narrations which you may come across:
Yazid bin Harun- Sufyan bin Husain- Al-Hakam bin ‘Utaybah- Ibrahim (b. Yazid al-Taymi)- Yazid al-Taymi- Abu Dharr said: I was sitting behind the Apostle of Allah who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Hadith 3991)
Related narrations:
In Musnad Ahmad these words are part of a longer narration reported through same chain of narrators;
Abu Dharr narrated, “Once I was with the Prophet riding a donkey on which there was a saddle or a (piece of) velvet. That was at sunset. He said to me, ‘O Abu Dharr, do you know where this (sun) sets?’ I said, ‘Allah and His Messenger know better.’ He said, ‘It sets in a spring of murky water, (then) it goes and prostrates before its Lord, the Exalted in Might and the Ever-Majestic, under the Throne. And when it is time to go out, Allah allows it to go out and thus it rises. But, when He wants to make it rise where it sets, He locks it up. The sun will then say, “O my Lord, I have a long distance to run.” Allah will say, “Rise where you have set.” That (will take place) when no (disbelieving) soul will get any good by believing then.’” (Musnad Ahmad, Hadith 21459 al-Risala ed.)
This narration is quite similar to the narration found in many hadith works including Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim etc. except the words “It sets in a spring of warm water.”
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