Saturday, 21 May 2011

Muslims on Harold Camping: Camping Fails, Jesus Passes!

 Harold Camping Fails...
Does Harold Camping know more than a Christian 'god'?

Christian supporters of Harold Camping would do well to note that the man whom they take for a god (Jesus, p) did not even know when the Hour was to come, so how in the world is some fundamentalist Christian in America going to know when your god does not even know??? Think about it!

Oh just in case the lay Christians think I’m making all this up about their god… I’m not; according to the Gospel accounts Jesus states (yes, I know they are unreliable but most Christians believe them to be God inspired):

"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. [1]

What’s more worrying?

Which is more worrying to the Christian supporters of Camping and folk at Family Radio; Harold Camping getting his May 21st prediction wrong, Jesus not knowing the Hour or them worshipping a “god” who does not know when the Hour is to come?

Jesus (p) does not meet criteria of being God but passes a test of Prophethood

It is the duty of the Muslim to uphold the good name of all the Prophets (including Jesus, p) thus it would be beneficial to mention that Jesus PASSES an important test of Prophethood as he acknowledged that God* alone only knows the Hour in Mark 13:32. Prophet Muhammad (p) confirmed only God knows the Hour by stating:

There are five things which nobody knows except Allah [God]”; then he recited “Verily the knowledge of the Hour is with God (alone). It is He who sends down rain and He who knows what is in the wombs. Nor does anyone know what it is that he will earn on the morrow: nor does anyone know in what land he is to die. Verily with God is full knowledge and he is acquainted (with all things)” [2]

Muslims warning against folk such as Harold Camping

We should be wary of the insincere who are claiming to know dates of such events. Both Jesus and Muhammad (pbut) did not even carry such knowledge yet we see Christian folk following people such as Harold Camping. Some people will believe anything!

* The word “Father” (Abba) simply denoted God during the time of Jesus.

Further recommended Muslim discussion on all these wacky Christian ‘End of the World’ predictions:


[1] Gospel of Mark 13:32, New International Version.
[2] Bukhari, Kitab al-Tafsir, commentary on Luqman 31:34. A longer Hadith is narrated by Muslim in Kitab al-Iman.


answeringmuslims said...

Tampa Police Covering Up Honor Killing of Fatima Abdallah?
So . . . a Muslim woman who dishonored her family is found dead after her head was smashed into a coffee table. Conclusion? She must have thrown herself into the table. To conclude otherwise would be both racist and Islamophobic. Message to Muslim women? The U.S. government is too politically correct to protect you.

Yahya Snow said...

Harold Camping Latest Update from IBN News

False May 21, 2011 Doomsday prophet Harold Camping "deserts" devastated followers, church offers solace (PHOTOS)
May 21, 2011 11:00 PM EDT

Doomsday prophet Harold Camping, who predicted that the End of the World would come on May 21, 2011, has gone missing ever since it became increasingly clear that his prediction is going to fail, even as local churches willingly stepped in to provide counseling and help to Camping's devastated followers.

Camping, the head of the Family Radio, had predicted that the selected number of people on earth, approximately 200 million, would Rapture to heaven on May 21, 2011 while those left behind would witness the destruction of the earth which would come about on October 21, 2011.

He has based his predictions on Bible verses, namely Genesis 7:4 ("Seven days from now I will send rain on the earth") and 2 Peter 3:8 (“With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day”), and concluded that May 21, 2011 is 7000 years after the Great Flood (4990 B.C.), concluding that it indeed is the Doomsday.

4990 + 2011 – 1 = 7000 (the subtraction of "1" is necessary because year 1 B.C. is followed by 1 A.D., skipping year 0).

Because Camping was certain "without any shadow of a doubt it (Doomsday) is going to happen," many of his followers sold their possessions and quit their jobs.

Adrienne Martinez, a follower of Camping, and her husband have reportedly quit their jobs and spent the last penny in their bank account towards a rented house in Orlando. "We budgeted everything so that, on May 21, we won’t have anything left," said Adrienne.

Now that Camping's prediction is proven to be a complete failure, attention has been shifted to his devastated followers. Previously when Doomsday prophecies have failed, some misled followers have turned violent, even leading up to murders and committing suicides.

In order to prevent this, church groups are actively providing counseling and advice for the damaged souls.

On May 21, 2011, around 4 p.m. (local time), a group of rescuers, led by Pastor Jacob Denys of Calvary Bible Church in Milpitas, CA, came in front of Camping's Family Radio headquarter in Oakland, CA, with signs and banners, and offered to provide counseling and spiritual support to the dejected followers of Camping. Camping and his staff were nowhere to be seen. However, a few of Camping's followers who were there, avoided the crowd and refused to offer any comment. One of the followers even tried to assault the IBTimes reporter when approached, saying, "I want to be left alone."

"We are here to reach out to those people who might have bought the lie (of Camping)," said Denys. He, adding that they are not to condemn anyone, said, "What we are hoping is that we would be able to invite people who might have been affected to our church in Milpitas and hold a special service that would embrace them and reach out to them."

The service, Denys said, will be at 10 a.m. on May 22, 2011, the day after the failed Doomsday.

"Churches like ours, he (Camping) says, are of the devil, that the Holy Spirit has left the church and all is left now is a shell. Even though this is what they've been believing and they've been teaching, we love them and we care about them. We don't want them to be hurt. Today is a hard day for them," James Bynum, a deacon of the church, said.

1MoreMuslim said...

Alpha and Omega ministries wrote an article about One Biblical Reason Why Judgment Day is Not on May 21 , the writer spent long paragraphs of exegesis and interpolations of Jesus' parables about his second coming. What I find strange, is that the writer missed the single explicit verse in Mark 13:32, that says explicitly that no one knows the day of the Hour.
If the writer wants to prove from the Bible, that no one knows the Hour , why did he left out the verse that says literally no one knows the Hour? My guess, is that Christians are still embarrassed by what is said in the verse: ie: The Son doesn't know the Hour. If you find another reason, please tell me.

Anonymous said...

@Yahya Snow

I noticed you waited till after May 21st was long gone before this post, lumping in Christians with these heretics and blasphemer.

Was it because you were busy walking around listening to the rocks and trees in the hope that Camping was right and they would call out to you to start killing jews?

Anonymous said...


you said...

"What I find strange, is that the writer missed the single explicit verse in Mark 13:32, that says explicitly that no one knows the day of the Hour."

Thank you for showing us just how big of a "RETARD" you are.

If you knew anything about MR Camping you would know how he interprets these verses.

First the "No One Knows" to him reads "No one knows now, but Harold Camping will know in the future."

And second this is the best part, were Jesus says "Not even the angels or the SON" Harold Camping interprets that as a "Theological Trap"

"The son in this passage is the Devil, and the angels are his fallen angels"

I actually heard a caller, call in and say he prayed to god for permission to talk to the devil so he could tell him that May 21's was going to happen, and call him to repentance"

Anonymous said...

No one believed this wack job so why would you use him as an example?