Clearly the man is desperate to for attention. Look Sam, these folk think you're an idiot - an unstable one at that - hence why they avoid you like a sensible person avoids dog dirt on the footpath (sidewalk). You attract this internet hate-character (Radical Moderate) who swarms around you like a fly does with dog dirt and then you march around the internet abusing, threatening and annoying people with your incoherent and illogical comments.
Sam was quite clearly rattled by the first post by Ijaz Ahmad hence his subsequent cyber-craziness. Can somebody sit him down with a cup of tea as there is ANOTHER Ijaz Ahmad article rebuking Sam.
Here is Ijaz Ahmad of the MDI and Calling Christians to expose and rebuke Sam the second time today:
The fireworks have begun. I’d like to thank Br. Paul Bilal Williams for resposting the article on his blog, and I’d also like to thank Br. Yahya Snow (the guy who makes those hilarious videos exposing Shamoun) for also reposting it on his blog. Sam Shamoun has reacted badly, quite badly to my article about his behaviour. So badly in fact, he proved the point that I was trying to demonstrate with the article itself – that he is an out of control, foul mouthed, abusive individual. When the article was posted to Br. Yahya’s blog, Sam Shamoun and his cheerleading friend, Radical Moderate (whom I’ve embarrassed here, see his homosexual rape threats here) began to incessantly spam his blog, causing Br. Yahya to remove many abusive and threatening statements:
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Sam Shamoun and Radical Moderate left so many lewd, abusive and threatening comments, that the only comment that is safe enough for children to read, is where he calls me a spineless coward and that he’s humiliating me. Last I checked, Sam Shamoun is the one is has been unable to respond to any of my articles refuting his lies – not a single response – with that I ask, who truly is the spineless coward?
To make it worse, Sam issued a threat on Br. Paul’s blog:
Now you better go into damage control before we post something on answering muslims exposing your lies and slander even further.
Why has he written this? He’s written it because of a clarification email he’s posted on Br. Paul’s blog concerning the Canada catastrophe:
Dear Mr. ShamounWhat Sham fails to realise is that I’ve seen this email before – I’m privy to a lot more than he thinks – I’d leave him to ponder on that for a moment or two. It’s probably news to Sham, but what I said in my original expose on him, isn’t refuted by the email, according to the email the organizers did want to pull out because of his presence, that’s exactly what I said:
Thanks for the message. I sent the following to George below. Just now
I am sorry but I think that my original hopes of sharing food and having a discussion has changed drastically.
I have had a relationship with Neil Bullock and I was never under the impression that this was a serious debate.
Our center fits approx. 50 people and is used for bridge building.
Our main goal is not to convert people and I don’t like either side feeling uncomfortable.
The speakers that I have are not comfortable with Sam Shamoun. I have never heard of the man before this debate (shows that I’m not in the circuit).
I think its in the best interest of all to cancel unless is was more about breaking bread than the debate.
In the future please let me know the speakers or it makes it hard to frame the event appropriately.
I love people and wish to find common ground as much as possible.
Thanks and God Bless
Very recently a group of Christians led by Pastor G. Saieg had to secretly set up a dialogue with Muslims in Toronto, Canada. They refused to say that Shamoun was accompanying them. The night before the event, they revealed his participation and the organizers pulled out. It is not because they are afraid of him, but they wish not to have a foul mouthed individual share a stage with them.Ironically enough, the dialogue did happen, without Shamoun, thereby implicitly accepting that he is not an individual that is needed or one which they cannot do without – he is just as dispensable to the Muslim community as he is to the Christian community.What’s in the above two paragraphs that’s a lie Shamoun? From the Facebook event page itself, it says that the mystery Christian debator was to stay a secret, isn’t that mystery representative you?
The Paradise Forever group representing the Islamic position. The Christian representative will be a surprise until the day of the event, but the one thing I am allowed to say about him is that he is someone who you will want to meet if you have any interest at all in the area of Christian-Muslim discussion.To which Shamoun himself became upset when they sent the email stating his presence was not conducive to the inter-faith discussion:
The only lie, can be Shamoun’s statement about what I said was not true, for his own Facebook page’s comment and the event page itself, both testify to what I say, even the email which he assumed I’d never seen before – also qualifies my statements. What’s worse is Sham’s lying to his fans, the event went on without him, I even have the photos of it!
Sam, your reaction was expected, and I have no problem with you threatening me, for as the servant of God – Christ was persecuted by the followers of Satan (see John 8:44-48), we Muslims, also expect to be persecuted, threatened and abused by you. Save the rhetoric for someone who gives a damn about what you say – that sure as hell, isn’t me.
wa Allaahu ‘Alam.
Note: The original article can be found on Calling Christians, see here:
My view: Sam has been used and abused. Literally the bloke has been rinsed by his Christian colleagues. Folk such as James White, Samuel Green and Dave Wood don't care about him. Have they ever bothered to try to really help him? Instead they leave him to wallow in the misery of the internet cesspit he has been decaying in for the last decade.
When was the last time they gave him money? The man has been reduced to begging for money on Paltalk. When was the last time they patted him on the shoulder and said, 'hey Sam you've been doing this for near on 20 years, whatever you have had to say you've said it numerable times, time to focus on your wife and family by getting a real life job'? When was the last time they tried to rehabilitate the guy?
You see, folk such as White and Wood use Sam. They use his arguments and attract more donors, attention and followers than he does. They are the ones who get invited to debates (especially White) whilst Sam gets a patronizing pat on his head and he is told 'they are afraid of you' when they all know that's incorrect. They all know people think Sam Shamoun is obnoxious, rude, possibly mentally ill and unworthy of a platform.
The sad part of this saga is that Sam is suspected to be unwell mentally and there seems to be nothing coming out from those who used to/still hang with him. Christian colleagues of Sam will suspect mental illness in private but have any of them tried to assist the man?
Where's White? Where's Nabeel? Where's Samuel? Why aren't they not tapping him on the shoulder and just saying, 'hey Sam let's try to help you'?
Instead you have flies literally throwing him a few dollars and watching the show of him being made to look an ape on the net. For people such as Radial Moderate this is entertainment. Sam has become a freak show for the internet flies.
And nobody from his own community is lifting a finger. Talk about throwing a guy under the bus once you've had your piece of flesh. Sam Shamoun - Idiotic Arguments:
Proof Sam Shamoun is a Fool: